Qualcomm rumored to have troubles with yet another one of its SoCs
posted by Paul.K / Dec 11, 2014, 4:54 AM
This sounds pretty apocalyptic, yet still a bit vague, so the truth may be neither here nor there. Qualcomm commented on those rumors a few days after, claiming that production is on schedule and that commercial devices will be "available in 1H 2015". This statement also caused some rumble, since having a 6-month release window hardly speaks of something being "on schedule". Still, we'll take Qualcomm's word for what it is right now.
Today, however, we see another report, claiming that the Snapdragon 615 is exhibiting issues of its own. This SoC is Qualcomm's first 64-bit, octa-core chip, which was originally announced way back in February, though, so far, we've seen very little of it out on the market. The report claims that the CPU is inhibited by some kind of “design issues”, which apparently cause smartphone OEMs to steer clear of it and go to competitor MediaTek and its MTK6752, which is also an octa-core, 64-bit, LTE-enabled SoC.
So, two rumors in a row, concerning Qualcomm's new, 64-bit CPUs. Could they be the doing of some shady fellows who wish to sway public opinion about the upcoming Snapdragon chipsets? Or could Qualcomm be having trouble taming the ARM-designed cores, which it chose to employ for its 64-bit SoCs, instead of the home-brewed Krait ones?
source: udn.com via G for Games
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Acording to the news that A7 will be powered by Exynos 5433 and not 615 it is some truth inside this rumor.
posted on Dec 11, 2014, 5:03 AM 0
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I could see how the 810 rumors could be true since the 810 is still in testing But there's already 5-10 phones already using the 615 A few of those have already been reviewed with no mention of overheating So I dont see how this rumor about the 615 could be true
posted on Dec 11, 2014, 5:43 AM 2
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WTF Quackcomm?!! This is what happens when a whole industry relies on one supplier.
posted on Dec 11, 2014, 5:34 AM 3
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i like Exynos personally, i just stay away from it because it is closed-sourced and brings a lot of problems when using CM for instance, like broken Hardware Composer, which may deliver reduced performance/battery life! and for me Android is for rooting it and customizing it so i like my device to be easily rootable and also not to be problematic when using it rooted in any aspect! hope that either the rumors are wrong, or that Qualcomm finds a solution to these catastrophic issues QUICKLY! H1 2015 is approaching us!!!!
posted on Dec 11, 2014, 5:41 AM 2
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The thing is with SnapDragons you NEED to rely on XDA development and flash custom roms/kernels to make it better - as i was doing before (lastly on SD600 of S4) - now over half year with EXYNOS - i just rooted and a little debloated stuff that i dont need and i am happy with performance/battery life of EXYNOS). I do not need buggy CM development even for SD cpus and flashing daily builds that fix something but screw another working thing. SD 600 on my previous S4 was hungry and laggy even i debloated looots of stuff. EXYNOS hexa that i have, debloated just a bit to keep alll of S-pen features and still running GREAT after halfyear untouched to kernel and rom. Also i have NOTE 8 that is EXYNOS 4 like NOTE 2 and that device still running fluently with no hiccups. NOTE 2 of my friends still performs top notch after 2 years of release!!! I will go for EXYNOS in the future and lack of XDA development i wont miss! (but hopefully there will be a hero to bring up "root" at least.) But SD on my friend Xperia Z3 Compact performs actually superb!
posted on Dec 11, 2014, 7:54 AM 0
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i wonder why did they make the move to ARM instead of Krait ??? maybe that is the reason for all of this mess !?
posted on Dec 11, 2014, 5:45 AM 0
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Why didn't they just stick with the Krait Architecture?
posted on Dec 11, 2014, 6:57 AM 0
Because cortex a57 destroys Kraits in both power as well as efficiency and also supports 64 bit as well as hardware based encryption. Also Kraits were maxed out after 2.3 GHz. That means increasing clock speed will have very little advantage. In fact, the CPU based benchmarks of snapdragon 800/ 801 and 805 were same and the only advantage 805 had was due to faster memory bandwidth. If you know about how these chips work, I can go into further details but I think this is enough for layman.
posted on Dec 11, 2014, 7:22 AM 2
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Great, even more reason for OEM-s to use different SoC-s. The more the merrier ;) But seriously this could be the chance for the other players in the game to advance. Personally I hope to see Nvidia K-1 in smartphones next year.
posted on Dec 11, 2014, 7:23 AM 0
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Rumors to sabotage qualcomm's reputation?
posted on Dec 11, 2014, 9:47 AM 0
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maybe it was but i do think that qualcomm is quite late with their high performance 64 bit core. device based on 810 should be on stores right now not still in development. by the time they come out with 810 other SoC maker already move on with their second generation 64 bit processor. granted it is not easy to dethrone Qualcomm from the market share leader because of their dominance in wireless tech. but Mediatek and Intel will not sit tight while Qualcomm try to sort out their situation. and truth to be told i want Intel to stay away from SoC space. not because i don't like competition but i just don't like to hand another market in their hands.
posted on Dec 11, 2014, 10:49 AM 0
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