Qualcomm rumored to have troubles with yet another one of its SoCs

Qualcomm rumored to have troubles with yet another one of its SoCs
A week ago, we heard rumors about Qualcomm having issues with its upcoming top-of-the-crop 64-bit Snapdragon 810 – the SoC, which is supposed to be available to the silicone slinger's partners at the start of next year, so they could begin churning out their respective flagships. The reports claimed that Qualcomm is having serious issues with overheating, GPU drivers failing, and RAM controller mishaps, which would result in a manufacturing delay and therefore – a delay in 2015 flagships' production.

This sounds pretty apocalyptic, yet still a bit vague, so the truth may be neither here nor there. Qualcomm commented on those rumors a few days after, claiming that production is on schedule and that commercial devices will be "available in 1H 2015". This statement also caused some rumble, since having a 6-month release window hardly speaks of something being "on schedule". Still, we'll take Qualcomm's word for what it is right now.

Today, however, we see another report, claiming that the Snapdragon 615 is exhibiting issues of its own. This SoC is Qualcomm's first 64-bit, octa-core chip, which was originally announced way back in February, though, so far, we've seen very little of it out on the market. The report claims that the CPU is inhibited by some kind of “design issues”, which apparently cause smartphone OEMs to steer clear of it and go to competitor MediaTek and its MTK6752, which is also an octa-core, 64-bit, LTE-enabled SoC.

So, two rumors in a row, concerning Qualcomm's new, 64-bit CPUs. Could they be the doing of some shady fellows who wish to sway public opinion about the upcoming Snapdragon chipsets? Or could Qualcomm be having trouble taming the ARM-designed cores, which it chose to employ for its 64-bit SoCs, instead of the home-brewed Krait ones?

source: udn.com via G for Games



1. Cicero

Posts: 1117; Member since: Jan 22, 2014

Acording to the news that A7 will be powered by Exynos 5433 and not 615 it is some truth inside this rumor.

4. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

I could see how the 810 rumors could be true since the 810 is still in testing But there's already 5-10 phones already using the 615 A few of those have already been reviewed with no mention of overheating So I dont see how this rumor about the 615 could be true

19. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

Very good news if the 810 gets delayed for Samsung as they can use there better cpu in the usa and uk and all others will have to use the 805 like htc and so on, big win for samsung

2. FoneAddict

Posts: 263; Member since: Jul 05, 2011

WTF Quackcomm?!! This is what happens when a whole industry relies on one supplier.

20. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

Not Samsung there cpu is better anyways

3. mostafawael.1998

Posts: 241; Member since: Oct 01, 2014

i like Exynos personally, i just stay away from it because it is closed-sourced and brings a lot of problems when using CM for instance, like broken Hardware Composer, which may deliver reduced performance/battery life! and for me Android is for rooting it and customizing it so i like my device to be easily rootable and also not to be problematic when using it rooted in any aspect! hope that either the rumors are wrong, or that Qualcomm finds a solution to these catastrophic issues QUICKLY! H1 2015 is approaching us!!!!

12. ianbbaa

Posts: 332; Member since: Mar 20, 2013

The thing is with SnapDragons you NEED to rely on XDA development and flash custom roms/kernels to make it better - as i was doing before (lastly on SD600 of S4) - now over half year with EXYNOS - i just rooted and a little debloated stuff that i dont need and i am happy with performance/battery life of EXYNOS). I do not need buggy CM development even for SD cpus and flashing daily builds that fix something but screw another working thing. SD 600 on my previous S4 was hungry and laggy even i debloated looots of stuff. EXYNOS hexa that i have, debloated just a bit to keep alll of S-pen features and still running GREAT after halfyear untouched to kernel and rom. Also i have NOTE 8 that is EXYNOS 4 like NOTE 2 and that device still running fluently with no hiccups. NOTE 2 of my friends still performs top notch after 2 years of release!!! I will go for EXYNOS in the future and lack of XDA development i wont miss! (but hopefully there will be a hero to bring up "root" at least.) But SD on my friend Xperia Z3 Compact performs actually superb!

5. mostafawael.1998

Posts: 241; Member since: Oct 01, 2014

i wonder why did they make the move to ARM instead of Krait ??? maybe that is the reason for all of this mess !?

7. alaw.14

Posts: 426; Member since: Sep 10, 2013

You mean arm stock cores, but this give them time to develop new 64 bit custom cores.

6. MTT84

Posts: 50; Member since: Sep 20, 2014

Mediatek for sure will like this news if this is true.

8. Micah007

Posts: 266; Member since: Oct 09, 2014

Why didn't they just stick with the Krait Architecture?

9. TyrionLannister unregistered

Because cortex a57 destroys Kraits in both power as well as efficiency and also supports 64 bit as well as hardware based encryption. Also Kraits were maxed out after 2.3 GHz. That means increasing clock speed will have very little advantage. In fact, the CPU based benchmarks of snapdragon 800/ 801 and 805 were same and the only advantage 805 had was due to faster memory bandwidth. If you know about how these chips work, I can go into further details but I think this is enough for layman.

10. androiphone20

Posts: 1654; Member since: Jul 10, 2013

Talk crap about others for ousting a 64-bit chip first cuz you're caught off guard then you have trouble making your own. Good going Qualcomm, sure is a good way to go about it.

11. Predator1701

Posts: 130; Member since: Oct 28, 2014

Great, even more reason for OEM-s to use different SoC-s. The more the merrier ;) But seriously this could be the chance for the other players in the game to advance. Personally I hope to see Nvidia K-1 in smartphones next year.

13. greenelektron

Posts: 537; Member since: Sep 10, 2014

Intel is very very happy. This will be their great opportunity to take on snapdragon. I think intel performs better than mediocretek.

14. vuyonc

Posts: 1089; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

These are rumours for now but I'll wait and see if early adopters experience any issues. Otherwise, I'm trying out Nvidia's Tegra successor or Intel's Cherry Trail.

15. jove39

Posts: 2145; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

Rumors to sabotage qualcomm's reputation?

18. renz4

Posts: 319; Member since: Aug 10, 2013

maybe it was but i do think that qualcomm is quite late with their high performance 64 bit core. device based on 810 should be on stores right now not still in development. by the time they come out with 810 other SoC maker already move on with their second generation 64 bit processor. granted it is not easy to dethrone Qualcomm from the market share leader because of their dominance in wireless tech. but Mediatek and Intel will not sit tight while Qualcomm try to sort out their situation. and truth to be told i want Intel to stay away from SoC space. not because i don't like competition but i just don't like to hand another market in their hands.

16. guest

Posts: 371; Member since: Jun 13, 2012

More like their chips are having trouble being produced. Sucks to not have your own fabs!

17. renz4

Posts: 319; Member since: Aug 10, 2013

so the dragon is falling?

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