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Oracle ordered to pay more to Google than they can win in damages

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Oracle ordered to pay more to Google than they can win in damages
It’s being reported on some news sites that Oracle was ordered to pay Google’s legal costs.While that somewhat overstates the situation, Oracle does have to pay a small portion of Google’s legal fees, and that amount has already exceed the maximum of $300,000 that Oracle can win when Judge Alsup rules on damages from the two statutory infringement rulings that Oracle won in the copyright phase of the trial.

How did this happen? Those of you who followed the Oracle v. Google case may recall that Oracle tried not once, not twice, but three times to submit a damages report to the court that it would accept. The first two were part of Oracle's attempt to justify why they should be owed billions of dollars, a claim that apparently no one believed (except Florian Mueller). The court didn’t accept Oracle's numbers, and rejected both of the initial attempts outright.

At that point Judge Alsup was content to simply not allow Oracle to provide a damages report at all, but Oracle realized this was not a good idea for them and did the legal equivalent of begging and pleading to be allowed to provide a third damages report.  The judge grudgingly allowed Oracle a third chance stating:

Oracle should be required to make the reimbursements described above as a condition of a third try because it would be unfair to impose on Google the fees and expenses necessary to respond to the third effort.  Oracle has already had two full and fair opportunities and has overreached on both.  Oracle has behaved unreasonably and should bear the burden of the consequences.  Apart from reasonableness or not, allowing a third try of this magnitude is rare in federal litigation and the party responsible for the need for a third try should bear the full burden.

So Google kept a separate record of their legal fees associated with deposing Oracle's damages witness, filing responses, doing defense research, etc. According to a Google spokesperson those fees exceeded $300,000, which means that even if Oracle gets the maximum of $150,000 for each ruling of statutory copyright infringement they will still have paid Google more money than they received in damages.

Of course Google racked up that $300,000 in a week or two with only a part of their legal team working on Oracle’s report – so in a case that lasted over a year we know that the real winners here were their legal team, as both sides undoubtedly spent tens of millions of dollars on this case. None the less, this must certainly be like rubbing salt in the wound for Oracle and their legal team. If you’re really into reading legal rulings, you can find the ruling in its entirety in the source link.

source: Court Order via Gizmodo

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posted on 07 Jun 2012, 16:14 12

1. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)

Nice try Oracle. Almost as futile as Apple's awful attempts.
These judges are smart enough to see past the half-assed arguments that these companies give.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 16:23 8

2. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)

go google!
Belonging to the free world is awesome

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 17:50 3

7. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)

free soft for all

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 16:45 5

3. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


posted on 07 Jun 2012, 17:10 4

4. tedkord (Posts: 13872; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Good. Hope they get zero damages, too.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 17:36 10

5. Fallout09 (Posts: 421; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

I could only hope that Apple would get a similar fate in all their nonsense lawsuits!

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 17:43 4

6. JcHnd (Posts: 178; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

OH! backfire!

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 18:05 3

8. jove39 (Posts: 1967; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

Hahahaha...Oracle got it up their @$$

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 18:19 5

9. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)

APPLE should pay Samsung on legal fees same as Oracle. Judge should ban lawsuits on patent wars by rotten Apple. HTC should file lawsuits on Apple to pay for lost of sale by Apple patent wars.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 18:50 8

10. remixfa (Posts: 14604; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

Apple should take heed.

If this were a loser pays system, Apple wouldnt be so frivolous with legal bullying. Glad to see some trolls getting punished regardless.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 21:29

11. kanagadeepan (Posts: 979; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)

Rotten apple has soooo much money that they don't care about such penalties... They are now the world's biggest patent TROLLs..

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 23:18 3

12. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

This is funny. Oracle made a gambit. They saw Google's success with Android and thought it would be easy money to buy Sun out, revoke the seemingly unofficial policy of leaving Java completely open, and knocking Google for trumped up damages. Well, they have learned now.

posted on 08 Jun 2012, 01:37 2

13. B3BLW29 (Posts: 238; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)

Bwahahahahahah In your face patent TROLL.... ROFL

posted on 08 Jun 2012, 12:15 2

14. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 1039; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)

Dear oh dear Oracle. They picked the wrong company to sue and now they're paying for it, LITERALLY!

posted on 09 Jun 2012, 04:48 1

15. _PHug_ (Posts: 463; Member since: 11 Oct 2011)

Just adding my LOL to the LOL pile

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