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Nokia wants the HTC One and other HTC devices banned from the UK

posted by Chris P. / Nov 01, 2013, 6:45 AM

Nokia wants the HTC One and other HTC devices banned from the UK

Nokia has secured yet another win in its latest round of patent disputes with HTC. The UK High Court ruled in favor of the Finnish company on Wednesday, in a case concerning patent EP 0 998 024, which covers a “modulator structure for a transmitter and a mobile station”.

The judgment relates to devices using certain chips from Qualcomm and Broadcom, such as the HTC One, One mini, One V, One X+, Desire X, 8x and 8S. Nokia is looking to ban all of these at least from the UK and also claim a financial compensation from HTC.

The Nokia-HTC patent war started last year, and it's been raging ever since, with more than 50 cases currently open. So far, it's rather a one-sided fight, as Nokia has already achieved 3 other court wins:

"This is the third court this year to find that HTC infringes Nokia patents, bringing the number of patents found infringed to four. In September, the US International Trade Commission gave an initial determination of infringement of two Nokia patents and, in March, the Mannheim court ordered HTC to cease infringing a Nokia power saving patent", Nokia commented.

As some of you may know, Nokia is a big R&D spender and boasts a massive portfolio with over 30,000 patents, so it will be interesting to see where the company goes once the Microsoft acquisition is complete. Nokia has actually made it fairly clear that it intends to focus on its Advanced Technologies division and go after companies that aren't licensing Nokia's goodies. Unfortunately, this might also mean that Nokia is about to get real nasty with those who infringe upon its intellectual property, so the unpleasantness that the so-dubbed Patent Wars have become is nowhere near finished.

source: BBC

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24 Comments

1. WHoyton1

Posts: 1635; Member since: Feb 21, 2013

Oh dear Nokia!! Stop patenting and start trying to claw some ground on android or iOS because we all know you have a long way to go! Besides these terms are ridiculous Nokia you have lost your mind!!!

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 7:09 AM 12

5. alterecho

Posts: 1106; Member since: Feb 23, 2012

Its Microsoft's doing. As far as i've been concerning myself with these kind of news, Nokia hasn't trolled its patents before. This, people, is just a preview of what will happen when Microsoft buys Nokia.

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 7:43 AM 12

6. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

But this is what happens when you have these dinosaurs like Apple and MS owning thousands of patents for only one purpose, to crush all competition. They didn't sue Android at all until it became prominent. But only HTC can be killed because they're small. Everyone else has their own prehistoric patent collection.

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 8:41 AM 1

12. Ninetysix

Posts: 2965; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

http://gigaom2.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/patent1.jpg Where is Apple in that graph?

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 10:16 AM 0

8. jiezel91

Posts: 67; Member since: Jul 28, 2011

So true... Most of Nokia's quality patents were filed long before Nokia became a Microsoft puppet and it is just recently, when Elop took over the helm, that Nokia became more assertive about their patents.

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 9:04 AM 1

14. mousesports

Posts: 286; Member since: Feb 28, 2013

Doesent matter who is doing ... If NOKIA have right just do it .. Thats all ... ofcourse all trolls will come here to pst tard things ... we dont care !!!! SO DO IT NOKIA .

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 10:45 AM 1

18. rusticguy

Posts: 2828; Member since: Aug 11, 2012

M$ will have no control over Patents ... they are going to be licensed to M$ on non-exclusive basis and not "SOLD".

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 6:15 PM 0

20. microsoftnokiawin

Posts: 1268; Member since: Mar 30, 2012

1 not it's not Microsoft 2 patent trolling is when you sue someone over round corners they're sueing htc over a legitimate piece of technology that htc doesn't wanna pay loyalties for

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 11:01 PM 0

10. Damitel

Posts: 66; Member since: Apr 21, 2013

When Big DOGS like SAMSUNG and APPLES fight each other in the court room, is quite understandable. They already have huge customer base. When presently struggling NOKIA and ill fated HTC fight each other, I keep asking if that's their way forward.

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 9:41 AM 3

15. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

NOKIA STOP BEING A BYTCH like M$ you're going to ruin your imgage with this B.S. getting very sick and tired of this PATENT TROLLING crap. U Don't have a RIGHT to tell a CONSUMER what not to buy NOKIA.

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 11:06 AM 2

21. microsoftnokiawin

Posts: 1268; Member since: Mar 30, 2012

make a valid argument and come back you don't even know what patent trolling is lol

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 11:04 PM 0

2. Reality_Check

Posts: 277; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

The component is manufactured by Qualcomm and HTC bought it from them. I really don't see the logic in here. It's just like when Steve Jobs decided to make Android obsolete and instead of going after Google, he went after OEMs manufacturing Android devices :S

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 7:16 AM 11

9. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

They can't sue Google or they risk bigger problems such as removal of Google services from their platforms. Also, Google has nothing to do with Android on other platforms. They do not implement it directly and neither do they use any of Apple innovative rubber banding in AOSP. So those that implement those amazing features have to be fought in this case, it is HTC.

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 9:22 AM 1

19. Edmund

Posts: 656; Member since: Jul 13, 2012

I've stopped using all of google's services, so it is possible (Note, I still have a gmail account, but it's only used to remain anonymous on forums like this)

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 7:19 PM 0

3. PhoneArenaUser

Posts: 5498; Member since: Aug 05, 2011

Nokia or maybe Microsoft wants?

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 7:33 AM 3

4. hboy857

Posts: 367; Member since: Jun 03, 2013

I like Nokia but i have to say this is hypocritical. Qualcomm is the who infringe Nokia's patent not HTC, they just bought their processor and here is the main hypocritical part: Nokia had signed an agreement in the US not to sue Qualcomm over the matter.

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 7:35 AM 3

7. rawbow

Posts: 428; Member since: Mar 30, 2012

They all fear what HTC can be with their amazing phones and UI( not talking camera here)

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 8:57 AM 3

13. lalalaman

Posts: 638; Member since: Aug 19, 2013

Well here htc is at wrong....thats wat patents are for.....suing who copies

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 10:33 AM 0

11. shreyas.s666

Posts: 83; Member since: Aug 24, 2012

What i don't like about phonearena 1) biased articles 2) too many fanboys

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 10:03 AM 3

16. dexter_jdr

Posts: 1163; Member since: Jun 28, 2012

htc quietly dying

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 11:15 AM 0

17. edrich

Posts: 27; Member since: Jan 02, 2012

I don't understand why people are raging against Nokia for this. They patented the technology, others have to pay fees to use it, or they are stealing from Nokia. Nokia invented and paid for this, and anyone who designs or builds a device is supposed to check this before releasing a product. No fault of Nokia, they are protecting their intellectual property. You'd do the same if it was your hard work. It's not about who's where in the market at the moment, what's right is right.

posted on Nov 01, 2013, 5:41 PM 0

23. ngo2dd

Posts: 896; Member since: Jul 08, 2011

Because Nokia is going after a company that did not make the chip. Qualcomm is the one using the patient. Not HTC. Why not go after Qualcomm? Or LG, Samsung, Sony? They all use Qualcomm chips. Dude use some logic

posted on Nov 03, 2013, 10:33 AM 0

24. edrich

Posts: 27; Member since: Jan 02, 2012

It says "devices using certain chips from Qualcomm and Broadcom" Who's to say Samsung and Sony use the exact same chips? Also, Nokia has open litigation against HTC, of course they would add to that if more infringements are found. They've already won cases vs HTC which shows HTC has infringed and is in the wrong.

posted on Nov 04, 2013, 6:08 AM 0

22. Trex95

Posts: 2383; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Nokia sues HTC cause of Boom sound patent. Boom sound introduced by Nokia first time in 808 PV then HTC one beats PV 808 at still night shoot without flash i think this the second reason why Nokia going mad about HTC one.