No Windows Phone flagship until second half of 2015, MWC to focus on low-end

No Windows Phone flagship until second half of 2015, MWC to focus on low-end
As we noted recently when looking through the surprises that came with 2014 flagship smartphones, there wasn't really any proper flagship Windows Phone over the past year. The trouble was mainly that Microsoft took over Nokia, which derailed many Nokia products; and, since Nokia is responsible for the vast majority of WP devices, that caused problems. Now, it seems that those issues will persist, as the latest says that there won't be a new Windows Phone flagship until the second half of 2015.

According to Geek On Gadgets, the plan for Mobile World Congress in 2015, which will be at the beginning of March, Microsoft has no plans to show off any high-end flagship devices. Instead, Microsoft will potentially be featuring a successor in the Lumia 6xx series in the mid-range, and something in the Lumia 3xx or 4xx series on the low-end. There will be nothing shown off for a high-end Windows Phone device, which would mean that the earliest we would see a true high-end flagship Windows Phone device could be the second half of 2015. Of course, this would be specifically talking about a Microsoft flagship, but at this point we don't know who else would offer a flagship WP device. Maybe HTC, but even that might not happen until the second half of 2015. 

We've seen plenty of leaks recently of the Nokia McLaren (aka the Lumia 1030), but in spite of those leaks, it has been said that the device has been cancelled and will never be released. Overall, this seems like trouble for Windows Phone. The platform has done relatively well in the low-end, but that alone can't sustain a mobile OS; and, there has yet to be a device to prove that Windows Phone can be a success in the high-end. Microsoft is undoubtedly hoping that Windows 10 can change that, but we're unconvinced so far. 

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1. Birds

Posts: 1172; Member since: Nov 21, 2011

That is fine... Take your time Microsoft. There isn't any rush... Just make sure that flagship slays when it hits shelves.

8. lsutigers

Posts: 832; Member since: Mar 08, 2009

No rush???? Meanwhile Android and iOS at killing Windows Phone in sales. Honestly they had decent flagships this year with the Lumia Icon and HTC One on the largest U.S. carrier and Verizon still couldn't manage to sell the phones. I think Microsoft desperately needs a flagship to take on the big two OS's, but they need it on all big 4 carriers in the US.

12. jedpatrickdatu

Posts: 169; Member since: Jan 24, 2013

Microsoft makes more money with low-end phones than with high end, especially in Asia. US is a weak market for them right now, even with their quality phones.

15. Spedez

Posts: 542; Member since: Aug 29, 2014

That's just a load of bs. Nokia made about 300-400 million loss for every last 4-5 quarters thanks to WP and low-end models they had to sell on loss. You think 99$ smartphone makes profit? MS said themselves they plan to break even in 2016. That's kind of sad how much cash they have.

2. HugoBarraCyanogenmod

Posts: 1412; Member since: Jul 06, 2014

This is good news as consumer able to buy cheap phone with flagship DNA inside

3. maverick786us

Posts: 157; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

Bulls**t!!!! We all are waiting for a Nokia/MS flagship that will whipe out Note 4. Who gives a damm about some low end crap!!!. All we need is a flagship that will give a stiff fight to Note 4 and Nexus 6

6. nokia12

Posts: 610; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

i think you meant Note 5 and Nexus 7 :P we are talking about sept 2015 now lol .. wait for liveitup to come , and see how he will hail Microsoft for this epic strategy.. well Ms fanboys don't mind that , they have been trained by microsoft to keep waiting and defending MS forever.. so i am guessing windows 10 for mobiles will be delayed till sept 2015 as well... and then they will fight against Nokia Android flagship phone( foxcon) in jan 2016 i am willing to bet in the meantime blackberry will happily surpass windows phone in the flagship category..

17. maverick786us

Posts: 157; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

Last year, Nokia launched a killer 1520 to tear the back of Note 4. This year they launched nothing. They should have launched a 1520 successor to kill note 4. In MWC 1) Samsung will unavaile Galaxy S6 2) Sony will unavaile Xperia Z4 3) LG will unavaile Optimus G3 Pro or G4 4) HTC will unavaile M9 And Nokia / Microsoft's answer to these amazing flagship devices will be low end CRAP!!!!

16. Ishtiaque99

Posts: 68; Member since: Apr 15, 2014

WP will wipe out Note 4 probably in your dreams, it won't happen in real world.

19. maverick786us

Posts: 157; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

See yourself. 1520 us superior than note 3 from every angle 1) Better camera, even note 4 camera isn't closer to the camera of 1520 and 930. With Denim update, it will become much batter 2) Better build quality 3) Better sound quality 4) Premium look and feel compared to cheap plastic and faux leather of Note 3. The only advantages Note 3 offers over Lumia 1520 are 1) S-Pen 2) Super AMOLED screen and 3) 1GB more RAM, but that won't make any difference, because WP 8.1 is much more optimized.

27. mayur007

Posts: 593; Member since: Apr 10, 2012

note 3 has way way way more productivity but yes in terms of camera nokia is superior anyday

29. maverick786us

Posts: 157; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

Forgot to mention battery life, sunlight readibility and music quality. Yes note 3 is more productive because of the extra software that Samsung offers. Some people like it, for some people its just a bloatware. We are not comparing the software aspect here.

37. mayur007

Posts: 593; Member since: Apr 10, 2012

yes but when its comes to comparison it should go with all aspects

21. maverick786us

Posts: 157; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

If Nokia / Microsoft would have launched for a true 1520 successor with camera slightly better, SD 805 processor, I don't see any reason, why it will not whipe out Note 4, just like the way 1520 did with Note 3.

23. Suo.Eno

Posts: 556; Member since: Feb 17, 2013

You're thinking short term when you mention SD805, SoC-wise Windows of all mobile OS should make the proper aarch64 jump YESTERDAY and bring us that Ubuntu Edge promise. Behind the curve in sense of trying to blanket the landscape w/ more devices in an attempt to stoke some more fire for devs' interest. But the problem now regardless of your expectations MS seems to be desperate enough to try and bring in that low end below the belt pain instead, which means that upper midrange - flagship models are in the backburner and definitely no serious aarch64 moves any time soon. With $100 Android One phones and even lower Chinese OEMs' incoming, at least in my country Malaysia they don't have a prayer against cheap Androids.

41. William13

Posts: 27; Member since: Mar 10, 2011

I don't see Android going all that much further than what they have so far. I've used Android since 2010 because I hate Apple and their desire for control, and their treating customers like idiots (and their success would say their customers are idiots) but I'm sick of being advertised to. I feel like the market is about to be primed and ready for a newcomer that can innovate and change the game. Windows isn't really a newcomer but they can make a lot of ground with low to mid-range phones. I know everyone here thinks they're a business guru and they know how to save MS but let's all acknowledge that we're regular guys on a phone forum and MS is a multi-billion dollar company that has lasted through all the ups and downs. They know how to survive (they survived that awful creation that was WP6 didn't they?) So my money is on them and not some guy on a cell phone forum. I want to switch fully to WP (my work phone is WP and my personal is Android) so I definitely want a flagship too, but if I have to wait then that's what I have to do. If I can get universal apps between my laptop and my phones, I'll never have a need for another OS again.

4. GenericFanboy

Posts: 50; Member since: Sep 05, 2014

Cant wait to see the FIRST windows phone "flagship" been waiting forever!

5. meanestgenius

Posts: 21453; Member since: May 28, 2014

Not a sound strategy IMO, but if Microsoft can put out more handsets along the lines of the "affordable flagship" known as the Lumia 830 and market them as such, they may be able to quell the appetite of Windows fans until they release a high-end flagship phone. I'm rooting for you Microsoft. The more choices of OS's there are, the better off the industry and the consumers will be.

7. AfterShock

Posts: 4146; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

Optimistic bunch, that's spirit. This means about time of the big boys are released in 15? Idk.

9. Sharky

Posts: 259; Member since: Jun 24, 2008

Microsoft is killing its own mobile platform slowly, but surely. Windows 10 is really going to have to up the ante. I still have hope and I thought WP had plenty of potential, but I'm losing faith now. My brother was a huge WP fan from the time the Lumia 920 came out, but after the 1020 he decided to go back to Android.

32. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Hard to go back to anything after a 1020 imo, i dont need a larger phone like a note when my tablet kills it. For me 5in is about as big as i can go, and will be testing that with the recent 930 purchase.

10. FerneyZan

Posts: 113; Member since: Jul 21, 2010

This really doesn't make any sense at all.. Microsoft is dramatically limiting them selves here.. They can easily bring up a Flagship Smartphone while focusing on tons of lower spec models if they want.. What exactly are they thinking.. When I go to Samsung, HTC or Motorola, the last thing in my mind is to look for a cheap/low end smartphone.. I'm not rich here, so don't get me wrong. But while they focus on the low end models to reach out more people, the heavy users and people that love Flagship types, are going to just look the other way and be happy with other brands..

33. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

And those are the types that usually won't look as MS right at this moment. And those are usually the ones to 'rebuy' a flagship each year. As in going from the note 3 to the note 4. Right now they are not looking to topple samsung. However, the wait could be the coming of a x86 phone from the baytrail line.

11. yahia_malka

Posts: 186; Member since: Mar 27, 2014

Windows phone is done .....

13. Bondurant

Posts: 779; Member since: Jun 04, 2014

Good decision. That Maclaren should be totally redesigned and come up with a 6inch Surface pro style phablet.

14. willywanta

Posts: 498; Member since: Jun 04, 2014

well, good luck with that

18. mokhtar

Posts: 405; Member since: Jan 06, 2014

Wp is going with strategy of selling more phones not who s the best, but who the hell will buy this low crap wp, i mean if i want a low end i will go with moto or some xperia or samsumg.. Not a boring os with boring design..

26. Venkatramanan

Posts: 327; Member since: Aug 15, 2014

It is exactly the other way around. Except Moto, Sony, HTC and Samsung Android phones can not give smooth performance in the low end segment. But WP is very smooth in that specs. My opinion is Android for flagship and WP for low end / mid end. (But I prefer WP flagship too.)

42. William13

Posts: 27; Member since: Mar 10, 2011

Its hard to have a valid opinion on low-end phones when all you use is a high-end. I sell all this crap everyday and Android low-end phones (aside from the MotoG) are utter and complete garbage. Android isn't an OS that was designed for low-end processors and

20. maverick786us

Posts: 157; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

Irrespective of my previous comments, One reason I can think of delay is, because of the issue that Qualcom is facing with its Snapdragon 810 processors.

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