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Nexus X (Motorola Shamu) goes through Geekbench, scores higher than almost any device on the market

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Nexus X (Motorola Shamu) goes through Geekbench, scores higher than almost any device on the market
Ladies and gentlemen, we're now firmly into October territory, and if we take it for granted that Google will honor the tradition it started with the original Nexus 4, we can also take it for granted that the anxiously-awaited Nexus X is also right around the corner. This being a high-profile device, it's no surprise that sightings of it in the wild are getting closer and closer to becoming a daily occurrence. Today's fix includes an early peek into performance, thanks to a Nexus X Geekbench pass.

Also known as the Motorola "Shamu" (and Nexus 6), the next affordable flagship device from Google is expected to be the biggest of the Nexus line yet, at 5.9-inches. Despite some resistance from the power user crowd, so far it seems like Google will also be going for a Quad HD (1440 x 2560) resolution display, though the aforementioned benchmark pass does not offer a direct clue to that. What it does offer is the scores achieved by the Android L-touting, Snapdragon 805-powered (3GB RAM) Nexus X, and those are not too far ahead from the LG G3's, which may suggest that we're, indeed, looking at a QHD panel (those have an adverse effect on performance). 

Quad HD or not, the fact is that the score the next Nexus achieved is pretty impressive, and basically puts it at the very top of the food chain, at least according to Geekbench. We say basically, because when it comes to single-threaded performance, the Nexus X still is out-muscled by the iPhone 6. It's also worth pointing out that early Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Geekben results are very much comparable to the upcoming Google device. Check out the results below and see how they compare against the competition.

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Nexus X (Motorola Shamu) goes through Geekbench, scores higher than almost any device on the market
Nexus X (Motorola Shamu) goes through Geekbench, scores higher than almost any device on the market

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posted on 06 Oct 2014, 08:26 11

1. silencer271 (Posts: 254; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)

Out muscled? No. Out BENCHMARKED.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 09:02 12

10. rantao333 (Posts: 322; Member since: 21 May 2013)

its indeed outmuscled even by the iphone 5s.

bear in mind that even for 2015 standard, SINGLE CORE performance is still most impactful to user's experience, feeling & responsiveness. something that long forgotten by most users.

u only feel the benefit of 3rd/4th core (multi-core) when the apps are written to benefit for it / need to utilize the extra core . but sadly smartphone is not PC, there is almost no need for more than 2 core in performing 99% of the task. there is no multiplayer game like battlefield 4, or GPU intensive game like crysis 3 that need multi core. And there also no rendering nor converting needs when using a smartphone. perhaps for now.

so whats the point of having a multi core processor when the single core performance is low ? i guess the only real uses nowadays is for benchmarking.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 09:11 12

12. tury694 (Posts: 167; Member since: 25 Aug 2014)

Not really true about the single core score as the most intensive apps are coded to use all cores. You can even check this by displaying cpu usage in developer settings and you will notice that all cores are in use even in calculator apps that don't require that power. Nonetheless the iPhone does have some monstrous single core scores.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 09:51 2

22. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

what is a "most intensive app"?

posted on 07 Oct 2014, 19:58

77. bob_monkeywarts (unregistered)

I don't know, but if you have phone with a 6" screen with QHD and those benchmarks, you are probably going to use really intensive apps.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 10:37 15

29. sgodsell (Posts: 4897; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)

Geekbench is the worst bench marking tools out there. Considering its roots and start came from the Apple world.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 12:06 3

44. Wiencon (Posts: 2023; Member since: 06 Aug 2014)

Yeah, when iPhone scores over Android phones benchmark cheats.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 12:32 10

50. tury694 (Posts: 167; Member since: 25 Aug 2014)

No, it is a very accurate CPU only benchmark. Many Androids already outperform the new iPhones in overall score. From one Android fan to another, there is no need to feel insecure about Android's dominance.

posted on 14 Oct 2014, 08:22

80. CellPhonesExpert (Posts: 45; Member since: 10 Oct 2014)

20 million China Iphone 6 preorders. Samsung 3q profit drops 40%. Dominance

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 09:40 1

17. ML0999 (Posts: 1; Member since: 06 Oct 2014)

Yeah but things don't make sense on both sides, because for some reason apple touts the A7 and A8 with 64-Bit architecture, while they push dual cores with 1 Gig of ram... still to this day, at that point there isn't even a reason TO develop apps that will utilize this..

This is what I bet though. I bet a year from now, after andriod L supports 64 BIT, android will have phones with 4 Gigs of ram, running octo cores, and SOME apps will be developed to use the power. I understand its not solely about more cores and more ram however It points to my main gripe with apple, It doesn't seem like they try to do anything BUT keep it simple. Its been 1 year since apple announced the possibilities of the new chip and nothing has come of it as far as hardware tech. At that point id rather invest in the OS/Companies that are trying to do more on a consistent basis. With apple being the only company that makes a phone with the OS, well. They are holding them selves back in the long term because without doing much of anything their bottom line remains well intact..

If its about who will develop apps that DO utilize 64 Bit, and Multicore processors first. Ill bet on Android simply because they actually use the hardware necessary. If IPhone 7 Launches with a dual core processor and 1Gig of ram, it will be official ....apple just doesn't give a fu*k because their bottom line is still amazing with minimal development.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 09:47

19. dorfoz (Posts: 149; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

Seems like apple just waits for the opportune time for the consumers to be ready with the tech thats out there. Yes, it does kick ass in single core, because in todays market multi core applications are not that common. Once it starts becoming more and more popular, only then apple will take that leap.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 09:53

23. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

64 bit is simply a word size change of the registers in the cpu. this makes more memory addressable, i.e. more capacity. it also increases precision on floats and increases computation on larger numbers. this doesn't impact much at all.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 09:54 3

24. MathieuLLF (Posts: 4; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)

I'm sure your story would be the opposite if the iPhone had better multicore performance and lower single core.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 10:00 13

25. boosook (Posts: 1442; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)

lol... that's simply not true, and it's funny that in 2014 this story that single core performance is more important than multi core is still alive.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 14:50

62. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

you do realize that in certain instances, this assertion is valid?

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 10:56 4

34. Scott93274 (Posts: 5426; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)

Maybe if the older iPhones had more cores they wouldn't suffer with each passing year when iOS is updated to have more of the standard features found on competing platforms. Android phones have the hardware to make them relevant year after year and OS updates actually make them work better. So you can say that multiple cores are not a necessity, but I think that Apple's hardware is incredibly short sighted and not designed to give users the performance they expect for the premium prices they spend on them, at least not in the long run.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 11:25

37. elitewolverine (Posts: 5192; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)

Sorry they dont get updates year after year, nor are they even on the same page. kitkat has been out for a year and still see's an adoption rate rather low.

Updates dont always make things better, i have a load of updates for the s3 and s5 and others that bricked features etc.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 11:41 1

40. Scott93274 (Posts: 5426; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)

I'm sorry, did the iPhone 4s not get the iOS 8 update? I'm pretty sure it did, or at least it's trying to. Also I'm making references to pure Google devices, not the tacked on crap that Samsung is infamous for adding to their phones. The stripped down Android OS has greatly improved over the years in terms of efficiency and optimization and as a result performance improves over with each update. And even a low adaption rate of Kit-Kat doesn't make my statement any less true about how Apple's iPhones are incapable of maintaining the same performance after an update or two.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 12:39 2

53. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)

Not really. Anything that doesn't need more than two cores won't need strong single core performance.

So if those Android single core perfomances weren't enough and needed the Apple single core scores, then wouldn't the other cores kick in?

You ifans slay me. Total reaching to support your brand.

If 4 cores are not needed than 2 more powerful cores are not needed either. Which means they perform the same....except one has the extra power if needed and looks better on paper.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 14:32 1

59. jeff3yan (Posts: 2; Member since: 25 Mar 2012)

I don't know if you're just misinformed or willfully ignorant, but single threaded performance has been the staple performance measure for overall performance for a long time now. Why do you think many people prefer the Intel Core i series over AMD CPUs with twice the cores?

Anandtech said it extremely well in their 8-core Mac Pro review (and may other reviews):
"single threaded performance remains the gate for system responsiveness outside of thread heavy applications"

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 14:45 2

61. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)

That's for desktop level PCs and systems. Not very light mobile systems where even the websites have gimped versions. Threads are so light in mobile that, yeah, it doesn't matter....any decent single core performance is more than good enough.

You are acting like the single core performance difference between the A8 and the SD 805 is light years when it's minor and even more minor In terms of mobile applications.

You are the one that is willfully ignorant my friend.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 13:30 1

58. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)

So basically the outstanding single core performance is wasted on tasks that only need low end single core performance to run smoothly.

Wasted performance is wasted performance whether it is wasted by two cores staying idle or whether it is wasted by two cores using 2000 pounds of force to push something that only needs 20 pounds of force to reach the maximum speed.

One waste isn't better than the other no matter how you spin it. Waste is waste.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 14:56

63. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

Taters, I think you have a misunderstanding how cores operate. When you write software, it is executed in a single thread. That means that it runs on one core only.

In order for software to utilize other cores, the programmer has to intentionally engineer software that spreads work out across multiple cores and runs in parallel. Most software developers do not do this unless there is a need.

So essentially, most tasks that are run, run on one core. The multicore benefits are most beneficial outside of the context of one app. So if you're running one app, it's performance won't be affected by any tasks the device is running in the background.

There are other caveats of compilers automatically converting single threaded code to multicore usages, but frankly these are in their infancy and hardly utilized in mainstream development.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 16:50 2

65. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)

No I understand that, maybe not on a software engineer level but I doubt many of us do, not even mighty Jake Lee self proclaimed ultimate programmer.

The take home is that any cou is overkill for current mobile operating systems, not just 4 core ones. Even double core ones like you said. Most are single threaded and Qualcomm single threaded performance is more than enough. So yes, waste is waste. My statements are perfectly true.

posted on 07 Oct 2014, 15:44

75. strudelz100 (Posts: 646; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)

"More than enough" is subjective friend. Currently Qualcomm's "more than enough" performs half as well at web browsing than Apple's mobile cores. Because Krait is 3 years old already. These are the oldest cores on the market. Older than A15 in mobile devices even.

And they won't see 20-30% increase in performance because it won't be able to use the flagship 64bit version of Android L.

Nvidia K1 Denver is going to be great though because it prioritizes per-core performance, over clock-speed; and is ready to accept Google's flagship 64bit software for years to come.

posted on 10 Oct 2014, 15:57 1

78. KRONeage (Posts: 144; Member since: 17 Apr 2011)

In the old days you might have been right, but newest Multicore SoC chips are a whole lot different. Scheduling, task management, etc are now all done in the OS with API optimization playing a crucial role in assigning jobs/tasks to multicore processors. Apple is still using an antiquated smp core model designed around IBM PowerPC SMP and with NeXTStep's older "Preemptive Task Management" it's extremely weak beyond single core processing.

It also has to do with the fact iOS is based on the same Darwin base as OS-X. Striped of most legacy code from Mac OS frameworks/API's, etc, but it still retains Mac OS's 30yr old legacy file system and NeXT's Suspend One, to Run One "Preemptive Task Management". So in effect they are still stuck in the 80's World of single threaded chip cores that aren't near as parallel in computing as what ARM, Qualcomm and Samsung's Exynos chips are.

In fact Samsung's Exynos is running HSA API's for Heterogeneous Computing Platform. Which was chosen by EU's Mont Blanc HPC Super Computer Project. Want to talk about Multicore? How about multiplatform capability of Exynos? Although they used earlier Exynos Octacores last year, they were able to get 26 TFLOPS per each board rack with utilizing ARM Mali GPU's for CPU tasks. This year they are using Exynos 5433 64bit and are expected to take this first ever ARM Powered Super Computer over 1 PFLOP total processing power.

While Apple is stuck stuck in the dark ages with antiquated OS, file system, scheduling and hardware chips originally designed for IBM PowerPC RISC based instruction sets on PA Semi's PWRficient Dual Core SoC's. The only thing they've done is added in Intrinsity's Fast14 Logic and remapped them to utilize ARMv8 Instruction Sets. Which is a little like inventing the engine before you got a car to put it in and although back in 2005 those PA Semi chips were state of the art, they can't even hold a candle to the efficiency of ARM own 64bit cores in A57 and A53 cores. Team them up with Imagination or Mali GPU's and Apple has been beat in SMP Multicore MultiPlatform processing power and efficiency by a mile! ....now comes Android Lollipop 64bit dedicated kernel with it's own Native Application layer platform in ART and a highly efficient file system, that isn't an assortment of sub file systems running on top of HFS+, a file system that should have died 20yrs ago!!!

And as yet... Apple is still struggling to even get into the ARM's Race w/o drag n drop App to App featured full time system wide pervasive multitasking even Copeland OS could run 20 yrs ago. Productivity is still both iOS's and A series chips weakest point. Sure they can run one thing at a time with parallelism really fast, but they as yet can run many things concurrently all running on separate cores and that's what it will take to lead us into the future of handheld mobile computing!!!

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 08:26 4

2. Antimio (Posts: 313; Member since: 11 Nov 2013)

Release the Kraken

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 08:26

3. reckless562 (banned) (Posts: 1153; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)

Thank you

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 08:27 6

4. Vinayakn73 (Posts: 197; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)

now slap big battery insted of big screen with right price tag.
It's all about the money money money.

posted on 06 Oct 2014, 08:28 5

5. nohatenofanboy (banned) (Posts: 515; Member since: 15 Jul 2014)

5.9 :(

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