New iPhone 8 features tipped: 'SmartCam' scene recognition, Apple Pay authentication with Face ID

New iPhone 8 features tipped: 'SmartCam' scene recognition, Apple Pay authentication with Face ID
In the latest installment of iPhone 8 scoops obtained from the leaked Apple HomePod firmware, developer Guilherme Rambo has unearthed a code that talks about the eventual new options that will come with the iPhone 8's vertical dual camera. References to a "SmartCam" option indicate some sort of automatic scene selection software, akin to the Intelligent Auto mode on Sony phones, or other similar camera software algorithms. 

There are several scene mentions, such as Baby, Bright Stage, Document, Fireworks, Foliage, and others, so the camera would allegedly look for those in a frame, and adjust exposure, ISO and other variables accordingly on the fly. Now, whether you will be able to also choose those scenes manually, remains to be seen, but given Apple's propensity to make iPhone users' lives easier, the process might be fully automatic.

Object recognition already exists in Apple's Photos app, while a "Neural Engine" co-processor has been rumored for the upcoming Apple A11 chipset that will be specifically tasked with AI and Face ID purposes. Speaking of face recognition, the developer has also found references to Apple Pay using the new Face ID set for authentication, instead of Touch ID, so either there won't be finger-scanning paraphernalia on the iPhone 8, or the rumored 3D face-mapping tech will be working in parallel with it, wherever it may be placed

source: 9to5Mac

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17 Comments

1. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

Curious to see how Face ID turns out to be... Not so sold on the idea that Facial unlock is secure enough for mobile payments.

13. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

It can be made to be, just like your finger. After all both can be faked and made to be passable. The difference I see is, many people can "look-alike" but even your identical twin won't have the same fingerprint. So facial unlock can't be as secure as the finger. But, when it comes to facial recongnition, you can add things to make it more secure. Example, someone may have a similar face, but when when you include the eyebrow pattern and eyes, then you now have something that is more different. Also it is said that Apple will use a 3D camera for this. So this is better than a 1D or 2D because it can include other parts of your face, like ears and sideburns or similar. The fact is, if Apple is removing the FPS, they will have no choice but to make it work. But because of making it more secure, it will be slower and people aren't gonna like it over the FPS. Just watch, Even though my Surface unlocks 99.9% of the time with the camera, it is also slower. I have tried using a photo and the photo did work, but only after several attempts. Nothing can beat a FPS or Iris scanner and I think the 3D camera will do both face and eyes. Not just the face alone.

2. yes3sir

Posts: 27; Member since: Oct 08, 2013

Great, Now anyone can unlock my phone and use my credit card even when I'm asleep. I don't think Apple will ditch the touchID though. The FaceID might just be an additional feature for authentication.

17. gehrig

Posts: 423; Member since: Apr 17, 2014

"Now anyone can unlock my phone and use my credit card even when I'm asleep." Can't they just pick up your finger and do that now, anyway?

3. cnour

Posts: 2305; Member since: Sep 11, 2014

The real FaceID is coming, Samsung and the others will learn and follow as usual. Hey Techie sheeples, waiting your nonsense comments.

4. Anonymous.

Posts: 423; Member since: Jun 15, 2016

"Hey Techie sheeples, waiting your nonsense comments." First of all, you can't call a non-Apple fanboy (I said an Apple fanboy a sheeple, because it infringes on the trademark patent of iSheep! And secondly, do you think you're any better than Techie? 90% of your comments are nothing but stupidity, including the one I'm replying to, with your saying " Samsung and the others will learn and follow as usual." When other OEMs have been doing this for years now. Typical pot calling the kettle black.

7. amasog

Posts: 552; Member since: Aug 22, 2013

Yeah. New and unused brown pot calling the used kettle black. Haha!

9. cnour

Posts: 2305; Member since: Sep 11, 2014

Did you forget how Samsung learned from Apple TouchID? Do you remember the first finger print used by Samsung (you need to slide your finger)? So what I'm saying is a reality. FaceID of Apple will reinvent this feature.

10. Panzer

Posts: 282; Member since: May 13, 2016

Apple bought AuthenTec for touch id technology. Did not invent anything. Maybe refined it a little but Samsung had to figure out a different way to build a fingerprint scanner.

11. cnour

Posts: 2305; Member since: Sep 11, 2014

So the compatibility between the hardware and iOS is nothing!!! You know that this is exactly the Samsung problem: they don't own the OS and then useless hardware specs.

12. Panzer

Posts: 282; Member since: May 13, 2016

Motorola had already implemented the tech with Atrix before Apple. A few OEM's were bidding on AuthenTec and Apple won. If you recall when Motorola had dimples on the back of their phones that is where the AuthenTec Sensor was supposed to go. And if we go way back in time the Toshiba G500 and G900 had fingerprint scanners in 2007. And if you read my comment i stated Apple probably refined it a bit. Samsung you had to swipe to read your fingerprint. To me this seems like a hardware problem not a software issue.

14. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Samsung did not learn about Touch ID. Again I have report and shown the facst over an over. Samsung and other OEM's a;; orginal were goning to get the same FPS from Authentec. Apple came and bought them and cancelled all talks with OEM's. Fact, all companies that can make fingerprint readers, can make them fit almost any size button. It just so happen that Apple hoime button was large enough to not require a swipe. AFter Apple bought authentec, Samsung and others had to vie for another source. Samsung ended up using Synaptics, but they didnt have a ready part for the same FPS, so Samsung had to settle for the swipe method. Everyone else simply didnt include an FPS at all. Whether or not you have to swipe of not doesn't matter because the speed is the same. Both also have the same weaknesses, they dont work with wet, greasy or dirty hands or hands that are too dry. What Apple offered was not better, it was different. I can swipe equally as fast as you can touch and get 100% the same results. The S6 and S7 has the same FPS as Able from Synaptics and it works. What makes the Samsung one even better is its housed in an even smaller button. The S8 for example has an even smaller sensor than the S5, S6 and S7's all had and it still works as fast or faster vs the iPhone. But Samsung added even more gestures too, so I can use it to take selfies, scroll webpages and lower the notifications panel in addition to mobile payments and unlocking apps. So those are things you can't and will never be able to do with Touch ID. Samsung didn't learn anything from Apple, because Apple didn't make the FPS they have, another company did and they bought that company to stall other OEM's who were gonna have the tech first. This is a fact that is show all over the internet.

5. xinrui

Posts: 9; Member since: May 30, 2017

Hope touchID will still be there.. At least in power button please.. The most convenient way

8. drunkenjay

Posts: 1670; Member since: Feb 11, 2013

yup. i like touch id and its the best for me. I hardly use facial recognition on my s8 since it sucks at night time.

15. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

It seems the facial recognition ofon the S8 doesn't use Infrared. Only the Iris scanner does. So dont use facial. I tried it and it worksed liek 2 days, but didnt when I needed it too so I turned it off. The Iris scanner however is infrared and is the same on on the Note 7, but improved. Its much faster too. Its faster, but still not as consistent as using the finger. But that is why I use Smart Lock. Because I always wear my Gear and I have my phone set to unlock if they are in close range. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJEQMVfXIFk

6. darkkjedii

Posts: 31034; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Keep TouchID Apple, your implementation is the most accurate. Make facial recognition another option.

16. jeroome86

Posts: 2314; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

On the 6th day Samsung created man.

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