Motorola announces which of its smartphones will be updated to Android 6.0 Marshmallow
posted by Mihai A. / Oct 02, 2015, 12:57 PM
Most of the company's 2015 smartphones will be updated to Android 6.0 Marshmallow, including here the Moto X Pure Edition, the Moto X Style, the Moto X Play, and the Moto G (3rd gen). The official Motorola blog post moves on to mention a range of 2014 smartphones, such as the US-bound Moto X Pure Edition (2nd gen), the Motorola DROID Turbo, the Moto MAXX, the Moto X (2nd gen) in Latin America, Europe, and Asia, as well as the second-generation Moto G and the Moto G LTE.
If you've noticed, the manufacturer only lists the Moto X Pure Edition (2nd gen) in the US, which is the unlocked version of the handset. This prompted a Motorola smartphone owner to inquire about the Android 6.0 Marshmallow update for the Verizon and AT&T versions of the Moto X (2nd gen). Unfortunately, a Motorola spokesperson said that these phones will not be updated to Android 6.0, which surely comes as unfortunate news for those who have purchased a carrier-specific version of Motorola's 2014 flagship smartphone.
Also missing from the list are the original Moto G and Moto X, which is understandable given that these are two-year-old phones. Unfortunately, none of Motorola's Moto E smartphones will get the Android 6.0 Marshmallow update, which is a bit odd given that the 2nd-gen Moto E was launched earlier this year.
At the moment, Motorola was unable to provide timeframes for the updates, but the company said that more information will be offered in the upcoming weeks. What do you guys think of Motorola's decision not to update some of its recent devices to the new Android version?
If Motorola had access to hardware Samsung has, we would see the perfect smartphone in making. Moto's software, vision and pricing is perfect.
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 1:02 PM 6
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But why TW isnt smouth as stock android found in motorolas
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 1:10 PM 1
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It's not only about TW and samsung. They want to be different in some way. Most of the big manufacturers have their own UI. LG and HTC got each their own UI as well. Nothing will be as smooth as the stock. They just add animations to make it feel smoother.
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 1:25 PM 2
TW is as smooth as stock android now. I own an S6 for months and never encountered a slowdown or what's called in the traditional sense as 'jank'. In fact, devices with SD 808 and QHD display have a lot more stutters(stutters, not lag) compared to TW on S6 and note 5 due to GPU not being beefy enough. Even devices running stock android like moto X style has stutters due to GPU issues. I have credible sources backing my statement, but that's not the point. My issue with touchwiz is consistency. When new devices get announced, the old ones don't get the new features through updates. I had an S4 and it didn't get the new touchwiz UI of S5 when S5 got announced. Neither did the S5 get the S6 UI. That's improving with S6 getting note 5 UI but still not good enough as S6 didn't get manual controls. That software fragmentation is further enhanced by a different variation of touchwiz for every other Samsung phone. S6 and A8 are both 2015 Samsung devices right, yet they have different features and different UI. This baffles me. This inconsistency brings me to the next point, software updates. Making 10 different variations of the same UI makes it 10x difficult to update all of them. And at the end, low-end and midrange devices get left in dust, never to see an update. Then there are issues like relatively poor resource management. Touchwiz may be as smooth as stock, but it's definitely not as efficient. Churning the same performance takes a hit on battery more than stock. not to say that touchwiz is the only monster. Other manufacturer skins are no better. I know they want to differentiate themselves and they should do so. But those features can also be built on top of android without skinning it entirely. Samsung can keep stock android, add it's camera app, add multi-window and theme store and put it on their devices. This will be a very good skin. Sorry for the long post. It was needed to get it out of my system :)
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 1:48 PM 9
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Samsung is a company that aspire to be the champ of proprietary platform like Apple but are trap in an open platform. Google manage to win them over to the Android camp but did not manage to change Samsung mentality. They need to adopt Motorola approach to win back Android fans. Like what Sony is doing.
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 7:33 PM 0
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Samsung problem as always... I love tw after 1 year experience with M8 i notice it was boring and stock was boring too both need useful feature like multiwindow multitask, floating window, s-pen, etc... Problem is i don't like how samsung treat their older flagship. I want to buy Note 4 since it seems nice to me but my only concern was will it get new tw update alongside android m? They should stop making too much S variant.
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 8:34 PM 0
Android's inability to safely update software beyond two years is the tragic flaw that will eventually lead to its demise when a new company comes along with a better OS within the next decade. Compare Android to TV, since the price is similar. I have two TVs older than my Galaxy S2. Those TVs still work, still zip by, still do everything they were designed to do, quickly and unfailingly. (My old Xboxes and Playstations also work perfectly.) The S2 (like my 2013 Samsung 10.1) is decrepit and usable only for basic functions. My original Nexus 7 is molasses (I have even had to restore it via Android Device Manager once because it was the only way to unbrick it.) My 2013 Nexus 7 crashes and moves slower now than when I bought it (I've had to hard reset it twice). I've had to hard reset my Note 3, which occasionally kills new batteries with faulty Google app updates. The OS made my Moto X and LG tablet so hot, I sold them. I love the flow of Android. I'll never go back to Apple, which sucks even worse with every single device. But some smart designers will come out with a better OS in the next few years, and I'll leave Android with no qualms.
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 1:35 PM 4
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I would say this has more to do with the carriers (AT&T and Verizon) than with Motorola. One of the devices they ARE shown as updating is the Moto X Pure 2014, which is the exact same phone. The only difference is it doesn't have carrier branding or bloat, and bands that are considered international (GSM). So if they ARE updating that one and NOT updating Verizon or AT&T's version, that means there's a dispute with the carriers, otherwise the ROM would be exactly the same except for the bloatware the carriers would want to add/update. Since the carriers have the final say on if carrier phones get updated or not, then it's out of Motorola's hands. I'm thinking this is why they've taken the route they did this year by bypassing the carriers altogether and releasing direct to consumers and pushing updates directly without any carrier involvement. That's the same way they did it with the 2014 Moto X Pure, and its getting it's update.
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 2:31 PM 4
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I totally agree. What's worse is I have a Cricket branded 2014 Moto G 4G which is still stuck on KK despite it already being updated to Lollipop. It's Cricket not updating the phone and I doubt it'll get Marshmallow because of Cricket (although I do hope). Honestly though I got the phone for $25 during a promo late last year so for the price I paid it does more than I ever expected but still.
posted on Oct 03, 2015, 10:33 AM 0
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I had my Moto G 2013 repaired just a few days ago assuming I'd be covered to get the Marshmallow update, but all I got was 5.1 (and Motorola is currently rolling out the 5.1.1) sad story.. RIP
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 1:39 PM 1
Are you really expecting a software update on a 2.5 year old midrange phone and calling it sad story.
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 1:49 PM 9
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It does suck. The 2013 model isn't much different than the 2014 model. Nothing in 6.0 will make this any harder than 5.1 which it now has. Nothing. Google even said themselves it was to polish the turd of 5.x. This looks like Lenovo saving money by not doing updates, which actually has the opposite effect of driving away customers and losing even more money. Dumb asses.
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 3:46 PM 0
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I agree with 2 of your points, it does suck and 2013 & 2014 Moto Gs aren't having many differences, Honestly 5.1 is more polished than what I have experienced with 5.0.2 especially the task switcher panel, at 1st I thought this phone is brand new again haha! Almost everything is smooth now, only just some occasional stutters here and there...
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 4:44 PM 0
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This is a sad story indeed. Considering both 1st gen & 2nd gen moto g has same cpu, gpu & ram. Software update should be decided based on devices capability, not by some not so long 18 month time frame. * I won moto g 1st gen.. and I'm not happy about the exclusion.
posted on Oct 04, 2015, 12:14 AM 1
Who are you people who have such a case of Stockholm syndrome with Android that you favor giant corporations' abuse of customers' requests for updated software? Are you a publicist for Motorola? Because that's how it seems.
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 2:05 PM 1
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Carriers should NOT be selling devices.
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 2:18 PM 7
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Agreed. And with subsidies being phased out, why in the world would we want to buy a device from a carrier at full price (or more) all bloated out? While it is a big bummer that the moto x carrier versions won't get an update, I hope this is another sign of a possible trend to take devices out of carrier's hands. The delayed updates and prolonged security vulnerabilities (and bugs) are extremely frustrating to say the least. I'm tired of the bugs in L 5.0.1 on my Verizon handset, and have no plans in the future to buy a device from VZW. In my mind, solving the update issue is the single most important concern right now with Android, and I'm glad to see some hope in this department.
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 3:36 PM 1
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Because carriers let you pay in installments w/ 0% financing. Not everybody can pay he full cost of a Samsung, Apple, LG, HTC, Sony, etc flagship up front and buying directly from them doesn't always allow for payment plans. Apply recently started payment plans, but the other companies don't. Maybe they will, but who knows.
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 3:48 PM 0
Wtf? No Moto E 2nd Gen? I bought it because I thought it would get updated.
posted on Oct 02, 2015, 6:25 PM 1
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I didn't notice that the first time I read this article, I actually found out about it on another website. The fact that they marketed that device under the guise of updates, and then after one update, they stop support for it before it's even year old is BS. I'm starting to think that maybe Lenovo is just using Motorola for image alone and they're devices will be just Lenovo devices in Motorola clothing. I think I'm going to go Nexus this year. At this point there's just too many questions with Moto to give them my money. I've got until the 25th to preorder a Nexus and still get the Google Play credit, so I'll see if Motorola makes the situation right or not before making a final decision.
posted on Oct 04, 2015, 9:06 AM 0
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