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Microsoft's SEC filing confirms that Windows Phone is dead

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Microsoft's SEC filing confirms that Windows Phone is dead
Microsoft's latest quarterly filing with the SEC confirms what everyone has already known. Windows Phone is dead. The filing, in which Microsoft lists investments in products that it will be making in the future, included Windows Phone in the fiscal Q2 report. The new report filed for the fiscal third quarter has no mention of Windows Phone. And if you want to tell us that Microsoft is focused on Windows 10 Mobile, the latter wasn't included in the report filed with the SEC just three months back when Windows Phone was listed. So yeah, we've heard that punchline.

Microsoft knows that Windows Phone was a failure and has resorted to selling a special Microsoft edition of the Samsung Galaxy S8. Don't feel bad for Microsoft. After all, the company makes more money every year licensing their Android related patents than it ever did selling Windows Phone handsets.

And that leaves us with the mythical Surface Phone. Sure, Microsoft might someday jump back into the smartphone business, but we wouldn't expect it to take place so soon. It has a good thing going right now collecting on those Android patents and on the success of the Surface Pro tablet. Not throwing good money after bad is the sign of a strong company. And despite the Windows Phone failure, Microsoft didn't get where it is today by repeating mistakes.

You can check out the 10Q filing made with the SEC by clicking on the sourcelink below.

Windows Phone was listed in the previous quarterly 10Q (on top) as a product line that Microsoft is making investments in. The latest 10Q doesn't include Windows Phone

Windows Phone was listed in the previous quarterly 10Q (on top) as a product line that Microsoft is making investments in. The latest 10Q doesn't include Windows Phone


source: Microsoft via MSPoweruser

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posted on 29 Apr 2017, 15:40 8

1. Dejan92 (Posts: 57; Member since: 06 Feb 2014)


It's dead for years...

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 16:20 2

6. Luuthian (Posts: 285; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)


Pretty much. Why MS let it limp along this long is a mystery. Especially since their whole one core vision basically just bit the dust with this news. They failed to invest in the most important part of that ecosystem. It's like no one ever actually had a plan for the company to align with.

May as well slowly begin the death march for Windows as we know it too now. I give it 10-15 years before most people get things working for Android instead, or whatever variant of it Google cooks up

posted on 01 May 2017, 11:57

53. strikerchooooo (Posts: 110; Member since: 25 Sep 2016)


Yo gotta be true idiot or masochist to get things on Handroid, man:)))

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 18:31 1

25. SIGPRO (Posts: 1862; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)


Yes I keep hearing that for the last 15 years or so.......

posted on 30 Apr 2017, 05:16 1

44. iamfury (Posts: 77; Member since: 07 Oct 2012)


DEAD? I still have Launcher 8 installed and all setup on my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge with cyan tile theme (matched with my coral blue phone). It will live on with the real enthusiasts.

posted on 30 Apr 2017, 06:46 3

45. trojan_horse (Posts: 4569; Member since: 06 May 2016)


But the issue is that the number of "real enthusiasts" of the Windows Phone platform is rather too low and insignificant to matter at this point.

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 15:55 8

2. kiko007 (Posts: 5188; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


Damn. Just... damn. I really did love most aspects of WM aside from the lack of apps. Guess it's WoA or bust moving forward.

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 16:36 1

11. newuser1 (Posts: 275; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)


people always say lack of apps, but how many apps you install on your phone? 20000? do you use them daily? how much time you spend on those appls daily?

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 16:45 1

16. ayylmao (Posts: 34; Member since: 10 Mar 2017)


essential and not just rip-off apps, which windows store had a fairly few

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 16:46 1

17. Jason2k13 (Posts: 1302; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)


Do you think teens would want a phone that doesn't have proper apps like Instagram? Snapchat or games like Pokémon go? No they don't. There's just sooo many apps that wp is missing, like a banking up that I use.

Just because you don't install apps, doesn't mean everyone else does the same.

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 17:49

23. L0n3n1nja (Posts: 406; Member since: 12 Jul 2016)


Yup, if I switched I would lose my banking app, snapchat, the official soundcloud app, Google apps, my music steaming app, almost every game on my phone etc.

I actually like the UI for Windows but it's crippled without the apps I use.

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 21:35

29. LiveFaith (Posts: 105; Member since: 04 Jul 2015)


It's not how many. It's when you want to do online banking at your regional bank and they advertise "Banking on your Smartphone". Well, this and a dozen other examples make users just say "forget this", I'm buying an iPhone or Galaxy.

posted on 30 Apr 2017, 00:36

34. Luuthian (Posts: 285; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)


There are literally very core apps that are simply not available on Windows Phone. Gmail and Google maps come to mind. It was less about the lack of general apps and more the lack of apps people wanted.

posted on 30 Apr 2017, 05:13

43. iamfury (Posts: 77; Member since: 07 Oct 2012)


such an idiotic question. obviously nobody installs all the apps available in the app stores. with "lack of apps" he meant quality and must have apps. for example WP didn't even have a proper YouTube app, and almost none of the top trending apps that were available in Playstore or Apple's store.

posted on 01 May 2017, 14:00

54. xq10xa (Posts: 765; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


Apps like voice search, maps, music, video players, podcasts. Everything I just mentioned sucked on WP. It was horrible. You need those type of apps.

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 16:06

3. Arashmahmoodi25 (Posts: 26; Member since: 07 Apr 2017)


Why they don't even try ? Why not changing the. UI ? Why ? The problem is that there's no one there to help them , they don't care they care about money just. Why failure , that's not impossible thing to do , the should continue with a new members and new ppl who have new ideas about future mobile operating system, I thought they would do something to the UI but I was wrong , why I'm saying they don't even listen to me , bye

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 16:28

7. hurrycanger (Posts: 1624; Member since: 01 Dec 2013)


I don't have a problem with the UI. I think it's nice to be different and that's also why I bought a WP device every year to see what's up and how it's improved over time (Lumia 521, 635, 640, 640 XL). UI was fine to me, but nobody wanna help Microsoft by building apps. The app store just sucks. But well, it's not just the app store. It's annoying how they had no Voice Recorder for years, and even now when they got it, it's a crapping working one that cannot run in the background when you turn the screen off. (Or can it now? Last time I checked it was crap.)

People talk about how Windows Phone is easy on the hardware and doesn't need a lot of ram or strong cpu to be fluid and crap, but well, that was all crap. All those phones I listed took a while loading stuffs up. The Lumia 640 XL even loads stuffs slower than some snapdragon 400 with 1gb of ram Android device. No joke.

Anyway I'm just seeing it in a different way. I liked the UI (and still do) but the rest of the OS is totally lagging. The newest Windows Phone (Windows Mobile?) update cannot make the Lumia 950 as functional as some midrange Android phone running Lollipop or Kitkat (my Note 3 and LG G2).

I loved the fact that WP was always there though and because of how incompetence it was, the price got low so quickly and a broke student like me could play with multiple devices. But that's all I love about it.

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 16:37

12. Doakie (Posts: 2227; Member since: 06 May 2009)


With launchers available like Squarehome 2 available for Android I don't miss Windows Phone. I still have a Lumia 640 lingering around, but I run Squarehome 2 on one of my Android phones to get a Windows like experience.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ss.squarehome2

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 16:11 1

4. UglyFrank (Posts: 1920; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)


Are people still waiting for the surface phone?
Something which might've never have even existed.
Save yourself the wait and get an S8, I have it in black and it's great. DeX is a match for Continuum

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 16:12

5. UglyFrank (Posts: 1920; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)


(I have the S8+)

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 16:55 7

19. Bondurant (Posts: 572; Member since: 04 Jun 2014)


Sponsored by Samsung.

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 18:32 1

26. SIGPRO (Posts: 1862; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)


Samsung Propaganda!
Android will never be powerful as Windows!

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 22:03 1

32. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4746; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Ummm...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2017/04/03/statcounter-android-windows/amp/

posted on 30 Apr 2017, 03:43 1

40. SIGPRO (Posts: 1862; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)


You should learn to read!
Android is the most used OS for internet but that does mot mean it is powerful!
Does your computer at work/home or whatever runs Android? I don't think so, still Windows is the most powerful OS!

posted on 30 Apr 2017, 11:04

48. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4746; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


I know how to read, but powerful can mean different things. You're talking power as in muscle, I meant (and thought you meant as well) power as in rank. No need to get into a hissy fit about it.

posted on 30 Apr 2017, 06:50

46. joey_sfb (Posts: 6533; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


SIGPRO, understand you are passionate about windows phone.

I am using one and I like it too! However as an adult we must also face reality. Do you know who has just become the Windows platform greatest enemy?

Its greatest enemy Microsoft has move forward with plan to sell Microsoft customize android handset in both their retail and online store. If that's business move prove to be more successful than Windows phone. Microsoft would move towards 100% android platform initiative.

I am not against that either in fact many Microsoft fans may embrace that as well. Having both Google apps and Microsoft apps accessible has its own advantage.

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 16:30 1

8. GTRagnarok (Posts: 39; Member since: 22 Aug 2014)


MS should just make a high end Android phone, while promoting the x86 emulation they showed off a while back. An Android phone that can run full Windows programs with a dock would be pretty awesome.

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 16:38

13. newuser1 (Posts: 275; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)


why run windows programs on android phone?

posted on 30 Apr 2017, 13:14

50. Spyro (Posts: 226; Member since: 29 Mar 2017)


Or you can buy a Windows-powered laptop which gives a more convenient experience.

posted on 29 Apr 2017, 16:32 5

9. Subie (Posts: 1318; Member since: 01 Aug 2015)


All this says is that Microsoft is not spending more money on Windows Phones (nothing new here). This does say however that they are spending money on the Windows operating system. Last time I checked my phone runs Windows 10 mobile and is still getting new updates. So if other OEM's such as HP, and TCL are willing to build and distribute Windows phones the OS could continue. Until MS states that they are cancelling support for Windows 10 Mobile, articles like this are just click bait IMO.

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