Microsoft wants to “get a lean and mean Windows running everywhere”

Microsoft wants to “get a lean and mean Windows running everywhere”

A job post by Microsoft highlights an interesting strategy which the tech giant is picking up with its Windows and Windows Phone platforms. The company is working to scale Windows's memory footprint down to mere megabytes instead of the several gigabytes which the operating system's installation normally takes. 


The effort stems from having to fit Windows Phone on devices with less than 4GB of in-built storage. But MS's mobile platform isn't the only product that's being sent to a weight loss program. Microsoft wants to make a small, efficient subset of the full-fledged Windows which will run on connected devices of all kinds. It's the same strategy that Google is developing with Android and Samsung is working on with Tizen.



With the way things are going, while we're currently choosing our smartphones and tablets based on the operating system, one day we will be choosing our entire smart-homes based on what OS they run too. We can already picture the heated message board debates - "iOS is best for the car but doesn't do heating very well, Android runs great on the fridge but isn't secure enough for the garage door, and Windows is definitely the way to go for the kitchen table."



Apparently, Windows Phone 8 was the first Windows subset developed with the goal of shrinking in mind. "As we further scale down to lower cost devices and smaller footprint form factors, we need to further improve its CPU, RAM, and disk footprint." - explains Microsoft, adding that its goal is "to get a lean and mean Windows running everywhere."



via Microsoft News

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64 Comments

1. ScottSchneider

Posts: 336; Member since: Dec 06, 2011

Yeah... Keep dreaming on that MS...

5. sip1995

Posts: 1771; Member since: Feb 07, 2014

It's Microsoft, they can do whatever they want.....when they want.

14. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Yea but them succeeding in doing whatever they want has been non-existant as of late.

19. rawbow

Posts: 428; Member since: Mar 30, 2012

you say that based on the phone world. It'll be a wake up call for you when you look at the ummm.... world in general.

37. sgodsell

Posts: 6909; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

"Windows Phone 8 was the first Windows subset developed with the goal of shrinking in mind.". Oh yes that's what Microsoft and some others want you to believe. Its been over 4 years since WP was first introduced to the public at MWC back in February 2010, and just recently OEMs can use it free. Microsoft dictated and controlled both the software and the hardware for WP. WP only supported Qualcomm CPUs and they had to be cortex-A9 or above. When WP8.1 is released in June, WP will still only support Qualcomm CPUs, but will work with lower class cortex CPUs now. As far as Microsoft and the author of this article want us to believe that WP was FIRST developed with shrinking in mind. Yeah right! I have some cheap land you can buy near the artic ocean. You still can't run any WP apps on any Windows tablet. WP8.1 is suppose to allow a common app between Windows platforms, but that uses html5 and JavaScript which is new for WP. All existing apps currently won't work cross platform, so developers have to write new or convert existing apps to work cross platform. What I do believe is Microsoft is a great propaganda machine, and relys on the moto "a sucker is born every minute" in order to generate sales.

28. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

When Windows latest OS on desktops dont require 15GB - 20GB of hard drive space for installs...then we can talk. Compare that to OS X which has a minimum of 7GB. Compare that to some Linux ones that have 128MB to 1GB ram and 4GB - 5GB hard drive space. That included Ubuntu, Debian, Red Hat, openSUSE.

32. naveenstuns

Posts: 184; Member since: Feb 19, 2012

But still why many prefer windows??? think about it

40. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

Thats not the point...the person I was responding to said its MS, they can do whatever they want, whenever they want. How about making their desktop OS hardware requirements lower then? Especially when you look at their competition. Leaving Linux out... just look at OS X....its half the hard drive requirements. And thats the OS some, many claim is better than Windows.

51. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Again it is not because win os cant be bloated down, the xbox one runs three os's one of them is a lean mean win8 core and the other is full blown win 8. The reason is because when you plug in anything...the drivers install and just work. Know how long it has been since I have had to use a driver cd? With mac osx you don't even get support for Samsung as a thumb drive you have to install kies, not with windows.

56. sip1995

Posts: 1771; Member since: Feb 07, 2014

Let's be honest, almost everyone here likes to play games on the PC, but what can you do when your favorite game requires 2gb ram and other requirements ? Like "Dota 2" for example.

43. PBXtech

Posts: 1032; Member since: Oct 21, 2013

Because Apple was pricey and there were little alternatives. Being mainstream for decades made it an easy choice. Now things are changing as more options are becoming available and consumers are becoming more aware of said choices.

62. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

Because it is an incumbent monopoly and people are locked into Microsoft Office documents?

45. Dastrix unregistered

Windows was, is, and will always be better than OS X. HDD space is out of the question.

52. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

I agree...I tried OS X before. I give the nod to Windows for being more user friendly. Whats wild is I had to play around with Linux before I got more comfortable with OS X.

57. Arte-8800

Posts: 4562; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

YEA LIKE DREAMING

21. DCSeerIvan

Posts: 35; Member since: Apr 14, 2014

Shut up! Sometimes dreams do come true.

24. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Well, currently the xbox one is running full fledge windows 8 and core win8 and then a controller OS, it does so without being a resource hog.

29. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

Good point...although in comparison to the PS4....thats a down side as far as speed, user friendliness, stability. Thats one of the biggest gripes I see in comparison to the PS4.

47. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Actually it provides a much easier way to update code vs hardware. According to Game devs, a developer that built a game for the Xbox one, was able to simply push it to the PC and it ran just fine. The ps4 while like a pc still needs some love to play with. Where as the xbox one if true means the one OS approach will be even bigger. Reports have shown that dx12 has given a 2x-4x increase depending on the card that was using dx11. Any card that supports dx11 (this includes phones) will be able to use dx12. Right now the win8 phone has the best benchmarks for gaming, add that to dx12 if the rumors are true that it will hit 8.1 phones in an update will just be amazing.

53. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

Yea...just read about the new Direct X given the Xbox One a boost a few weeks ago. I just read many gamers like the UI on the 360 better vs the Xbox One. Same could be said about the UI on the 360 before the NXE update. Granted in comparison the Xbox One does have alot going on vs the PS4...like the TV and Snap stuff. The OS, UI on the PS4 doesnt need to be as big or doing as much.

33. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

Isn't that what embedded windows is? They already have it, so why is this like, news???

2. sriuslywtf

Posts: 297; Member since: Jul 09, 2013

Go for it MS. Hoping for your success! a full fledge windows on a smartphone is the best!

7. boosook

Posts: 1442; Member since: Nov 19, 2012

You didn't read the article very carefully, did you? ;)

11. sriuslywtf

Posts: 297; Member since: Jul 09, 2013

I did.. "Microsoft wants to make a small, efficient subset of the full-fledged Windows which will run on connected devices of all kinds. " I hope smartphones were part of that "kinds".

30. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

MS already tried this with Win MO... That didnt work out too well. Which means....desktop Windows will have to be more like WP for this so succeed... I have a bad feeling about this MS....

3. alterecho

Posts: 1106; Member since: Feb 23, 2012

""iOS is best for the car but doesn't do heating very well, Android runs great on the fridge but isn't secure enough for the garage door, and Windows is definitely the way to go for the kitchen table." In its current state, it should go straight into the dustbin, or rather, Recycle Bin. But as long as they, don't mess up the desktop interface, like how did with Windows 8, wish them good luck on their new endeavour (they'll need it).

13. brrunopt

Posts: 742; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

are you sure you are talking about windows 8 ? because in mine the desktop looks like it was on Win7

25. ArtSim98

Posts: 3535; Member since: Dec 21, 2012

Desktop looks better in W8. It's basically the same as W7 but slightly more modern interface and some additions+extra features here and there.

34. express77 unregistered

Windows 8 is faster and have more features. There would have been more users if MS had done what they did in windows 8.1 update 1 in windows 8. And there are several third party apps which can bring windows 7 start menu in win8.

36. ArtSim98

Posts: 3535; Member since: Dec 21, 2012

Agree. Using W7 after W8 feels so weird. So slow and sometimes you want to do something but you can't because it's not in W7.

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