MediaTek's Helio X30 chipset beats Snapdragon 820 in AnTuTu benchmark testing?

MediaTek's Helio X30 chipset beats Snapdragon 820 in AnTuTu benchmark testing?
Late last month, we told you that MediaTek was reportedly working on the Helio X30 chipset. Today, analyst Pan Jiutang confirmed the existence of the chip. The Helio X30 is expected to be built by TSMC using the 10nm FinFET process, making it twice as efficient as the Helio X20. The new SoC will employ ARM's new Artemis cores along with older Cortex cores, and will continue to employ the tri-cluster designed used by its predecessor.

While Jiutang's post didn't include a breakdown of the X30's specs, the information that we passed along last month calls for it to be equipped with a pair of 2.8GHz Artemis cores, four 2.2GHz Cortex-A53 cores and four 2GHz Cortex-A35 cores. The PowerVR 7XT GPU will handle graphics. The Helio X30 will support a dual camera set up, a 26MP camera, VR connections, LTE Cat.13 connectivity, and 8GB of RAM.

On his Weibo page, Jiutang posted a chart comparing AnTuTu benchmark scores of various chipsets. The Helio X30 scored 160,000 on the test, topping the list. Right behind was the Snapdragon 820 SoC, currently the latest and greatest chip offered by Qualcom and employed on devices like the Samsung Galaxy S7 (in the U.S. and China), LG G5 and the HTC 10. The Helio X20 SoC, MediaTek's first chip to feature a deca-core CPU, was next with a score of 100,000.




47. HomerS

Posts: 419; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

Mediatek processors were always high on benchmarks but slow in real live performance. Also the Helio X30 doesnt compete with the S820 nor the Exynos 8890, which isnt even mentioned here but it will compete with the S830 and Exynos 8890 successor.

44. cripton805

Posts: 1485; Member since: Mar 18, 2012

Who cares its Mediatek and HTC is using them now.... no thanks.

42. KingSam

Posts: 1546; Member since: Mar 13, 2016

But how much does it cost? Upper midrange chip. Vr optimization they say. I wonder if they finally up their GPU game. GPU has a fancy name but lets wait.

38. Guaire

Posts: 900; Member since: Oct 15, 2014

X30 gonna be a great upper mid-range SoC next year. Yeah it's an upper mid-range just like both X10 and X20 has been. That's why "premium" Helio line easily co-exist with Qualcomm's Snapdragon 8xx. Most probably we will see X30 in sub $170 (1100 yuan) phablets from online only Chinese brands like LeEco, Xiaomi, Qiku, ZUK etc. while Moto G gonna get Snapdragon 625 at best. Even in China from same brands people won't get Snapdragon 830 handsets less than $310 (2000 yuan). And we all know that how much they costs from established brands. I don't know what to say those people who repeating same things over and over about amount of CPU cores and weak GPU nonsense. Mediatek could put in it at least 4 "big" ARM CPU cores for classical 4+4 big.LITTLE setup and a sufficient amount of GPU cores for to be among best performing chips, but that way it can't be that cheap. If it would have a similar cost with the Snapdragon 830, it could share the same fate with the NVIDIA Tegra 4. 10 cores of X20 probably cost less than 4 cores of Qualcomm's Kryo and 2 cores of Apple's Twister. Only 2 of them designed for power and has a largish die size. Instead of bitching, people should be grateful for getting 2 powerful cores at budget phones. Last thing Mediatek chips doesn't have weak GPUs for their respective classes. X10 and X20/X25 has similar costs with the Snapdragon 615 and Snapdragon 650/652 respectively not with the Snapdragon 810 and Snapdragon 820.

35. siddharthayadav202

Posts: 286; Member since: Apr 23, 2016

People do not simply understand. Even more core does not guarantee higher perf. They have to work on same die surface area approx. Its like a 10 kg cake where Apple makes 2 piece of 5 kg and Samsung makes 4 Big of 2 Kg each but still they somehow weigh about 4 kg and 4 0.5 kg ones and Qualcomm makes 4 pieces with each somehow weighing 4.5 Kg. If you make 10 pieces with each 1 kg, you are not doing any benifit. And they still won't be any better than 5kg 2 peices as 1 Kg for chief guesy would be poor. Lol.. I do not know how I came up with that.. Its actually similar but not same so do not bash.

30. siddharthayadav202

Posts: 286; Member since: Apr 23, 2016

I am among those who just see benchmarks for rough idea and then real life perf for concrete. But Antutu is really worst benchmark. It does not even come close to tell us performance of a soc. Geekbench for cpu gives best rough raw perf. 3d mark and Manhattan are enough accurate fot Gpu perf. I don't know why people even use Antutu.

27. Chuck007

Posts: 1420; Member since: Mar 02, 2014

If I live to be a 100 I still wouldn't understand why people care about benchmarks... on a phone. I can see how such a thing will be barely useful for content creators but a smartphone that only requires such bandwidth running more demanding (albeit extremely rare) games? Seriously?

26. KyleRiemen

Posts: 170; Member since: Oct 29, 2014

Maybe in 2018, when 10nm becomes really available and not just announced.

36. siddharthayadav202

Posts: 286; Member since: Apr 23, 2016

10 nm would be available in 2017.

25. jove39

Posts: 2153; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

If X30 beat S820 only with "pair of 2.8GHz Artemis cores" then it'd be worth mentioning...with 10 cpu cores it's just worthless news.

23. rd_nest

Posts: 1656; Member since: Jun 06, 2010

What's more funny? 1. MTK posting usual PR BS about Antutu scores. or 2. Ignorant folks at PA debating about nonsense MTK posted. I say both.

32. Ordinary

Posts: 2454; Member since: Apr 23, 2015

Lol +1 I really enjoy reading comments from people that have no idea what they are talking about

21. dazed1

Posts: 815; Member since: Jul 28, 2015

X25 is very powerful chipset, perfectly capable.....and very strong on the cpu side. One thing i can't stand, is the constant use of Antutu, what a pathetic benchmark.

10. Tsrnexus

Posts: 43; Member since: Mar 19, 2014

The biggest problem of mediatek processor is their weak gpu

12. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

Report says they'll use powerVR 7th gen used in iphone 6s/6s+

17. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

PowerVR 7 is a vast line of different GPUs. Remember that PowerVR 6XT in Mediatek isn't the same as A8's PowerVR 6XT.

33. siddharthayadav202

Posts: 286; Member since: Apr 23, 2016

That would still be a whole gen behind SD 830 and Exynos 9. Samsung also used to make same mistake.. Now, Exynos 8890 actually performs better than SD 820 in even gpu department without that core boost made to score higher in benchmarks without cheating.

45. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

Samsung never used weak GPUs in top class chipsets.

15. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

their helio variant can be found at sub $300 phone, so dont expect flagship performance from it, lol but X25 have same GPU with exynos8990 (but only 4core), while this one have PowerVR 7XT, we dont know the exact GPU used, but Apple's A9 used GT7600, which is one variant of that PowerVR 7XT, even if they use lower variant of that gpu, it still wont be that bad

22. WPX00

Posts: 513; Member since: Aug 15, 2015

A third of the cores is a pretty poor showing. The GPUs just suck on Chinese SoCs. Even Huawei.

9. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

X30 still far away..... even X25 and X20 still rarely found on market now.. I guess X30 will come out at Q2 2017 or later

5. zunaidahmed

Posts: 1186; Member since: Dec 24, 2011

When you have 10 cores, multi core performance should be less of a deal, single core or even quad core matters way more, yes android can use lots of cores, but not app uses all core equally, most apps use 1-4 cores most while the others are used less.

29. tedkord

Posts: 17520; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Yes, but there's a lot more processes running than just the foreground app. If you can keep the core(s) the app is using dedicated to the app, that can't hurt.

4. zeeBomb

Posts: 2318; Member since: Aug 14, 2014

I bet it has 20 cores running it

2. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

Helio x30 should be compared to exynos 9 and snapdragon 830.

6. Supraman21

Posts: 471; Member since: Jun 09, 2010

And the thing is every generation of chips have been almost doubling performance as far as ANTUTU scores go. Only beating out the 820 by 30,000 is not impressive.

14. Ashoaib

Posts: 3309; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

Chinese Socs are always behind the competition... scoring only 30,000 more on 10nm with next generation Artemis cores is very under whelming... I can guarantee that even sd820 and Exynos 8890 on 10 nm will perform 30,000 more...

18. Ashoaib

Posts: 3309; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

Another example that Chinese Soc are weak, is Kirin 950/955... Kirin is technically SD652 on steroids...

31. siddharthayadav202

Posts: 286; Member since: Apr 23, 2016

Lol.. Actually funny to say it that way..

41. zunaidahmed

Posts: 1186; Member since: Dec 24, 2011

Funny you say that, 652 seems to beat Kirin on the graphics sides, Kirin seems to be pretty weak in every sense except battery life I guess

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