Kuo: 2020 iPhones will have a smaller notch

Kuo: 2020 iPhones will have a smaller notch
When it comes to Apple insiders no one knows the company's supply chain better than TF Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo and their latest inside reveals some very interesting tid-bits: iPhones will have a smaller notch, but that change will not happen this year, but rather in 2020.

The iPhone X launched with the infamous notch in late 2017 starting a design trend that many other phone makers then copied, but right now in 2019, we are already seeing true edge-to-edge designs with no notch and practically no bezel that look really futuristic and spur questions about the dated look of a phone with a notch. For Apple, however, the notch is not just a design element: it houses the TrueDepth camera system, a complex module that makes a 3D depth map of your face and provides an extremely secure way of unlocking the phone, paying for goods, and quickly signing into services. It is a cornerstone of the Apple experience, but the whole Face ID module is rather large, so hiding it is an extremely difficult task. What Apple seems to have obviously figured out is a way to minimize it in 2020.

The company is also working towards the bigger goal of completely removing the notch, and the way to do that would be to place the whole Face ID module under the screen, so it works through the display, but is hidden from view.


The current report also says that Apple will transition to a 7-piece lens for the main, rear camera, an upgrade from the current 6-piece lens that it uses.

In addition to that report, we have seen another institution, Credit Suisse, predict that we might even see a notch-less iPhone next year. Its channel checks have allegedly shown that Apple screen suppliers are developing edge-to-edge screens with no cutouts.

Interestingly, Credit Suisse also claims that Apple will start using optical fingerprint readers, much like what we now have on phones like the OnePlus 7 Pro and Huawei P30 Pro. It goes on to say that a future iPhone might arrive with both the Face ID system AND the optical fingerprint reader. That is something that we have serious doubts about as it would mean using two biometrical systems that double each other in function and will likely raise the already high prices of iPhones.

A third report released in early July speculated that Apple is planning to release a China-only iPhone that uses an under-the-screen fingerprint scanner, a cheaper component than Face ID and one that will help bring the price down to appease the cost-sensitive Chinese customer.

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24 Comments

2. mclaren113

Posts: 56; Member since: Dec 12, 2017

2025 iphones will have fast charger out of the box!

5. Georgio

Posts: 259; Member since: Nov 21, 2016

In 2070 we will have a chinless android phone. Haha that's coming from someone who's using both platforms , I just can't stand rubbish talk.

8. ShadowSnypa786

Posts: 595; Member since: Jan 06, 2017

Mclaren - 2025 seems kinda semi realistic because with Apple you never know they were 10 years behind on Amoled displays. Georgio - 2070 is definetly stretching it :D Chinless android phones incoming in the next 3-4 years.

10. mackan84

Posts: 560; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

Not to be a party-pooper but how good was amoled 10 years ago? Apples super expensive LCD monitor s*its smartphone-amoleds.

12. ShadowSnypa786

Posts: 595; Member since: Jan 06, 2017

It was still thinkker than LCD tech, still had better blacks, still consummed less battery. Yes you could say they had burn in but I had the S2, S4 and Note 4 but no burn in yet. There a reason why they used in Apples flaghsips and not in the XR.

25. mackan84

Posts: 560; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

I asked ten years ago. Calm down little circus

18. User123456789

Posts: 1021; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

Sharp Crystal (2014) has one bezel only. If you turn it around it is no chin. Exactly what you see on Sony 10/10+.

31. worldpeace

Posts: 3135; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

You're the one who talk rubbish here.. iPhone also have chin, but they hide it by making side bezel equally thick.https://twitter.com/UniverseIce/status/1093440411878678529

19. iloveapps

Posts: 868; Member since: Mar 21, 2019

2099 android will have smoother touch like iphone 5

3. pogba

Posts: 112; Member since: Jun 13, 2018

There's a guy here who keeps protesting that iphones have no notch. The screen is just extended. Wonder what he has to say about this.

7. mackan84

Posts: 560; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

He posted before you did :)

20. iloveapps

Posts: 868; Member since: Mar 21, 2019

pogba is idiot. He just comment without reading.

21. cmdacos

Posts: 4270; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

The irony here is thick...

44. wickedwilly

Posts: 727; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

Yet Leo did post the same rubbish, do you believe this too?

6. ShadowSnypa786

Posts: 595; Member since: Jan 06, 2017

The notch is not here to stay even though other chinese OEM's like Huawei have blatantly copied it. It same as 3D touch its not needed. Once Samsung and other Android OEM's PERFECT the fingerprint sensor built into the display then Apple should remove Face ID and go back to fingerprint sensors.

36. midan

Posts: 3019; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

You can’t perfect fingerprint sensor, it always going to need you to touch it. Face ID can work without physical touch. It’s the best part. Sometimes you just forget that you even have it while you opening banking apps, filling passwords automaticly when surfing web. Opening whatsapp etc. Before you had to scan your finger to do those things. Now you just use apps and face ID does the rest.

45. wickedwilly

Posts: 727; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

You still have to line up your face with Face ID and make physical contact with the screen to unlock. With a fingerprint scanner, you just have to make contact with the screen or rear of phone. The former up to three actions, move, align swipe, the latter one, touch. So your point is invalid. Now Face ID on my Surface Pro sitting on my desk is more efficient, I just have to sit down or approach it and Windows opens automatically.

46. Vancetastic

Posts: 1614; Member since: May 17, 2017

Yes, every time I swipe up on the screen after looking directly at my phone, I forget about FaceID. Also, I have to double click to complete a transaction on the power button. Then there’s having to put in my passcode every couple of days to make FaceID operative again. Do you even have a X series iPhone?

11. HTC_ONE_MAX

Posts: 170; Member since: Feb 06, 2015

it would be better if the notch is as small as waterdrop one.

14. Orion78

Posts: 210; Member since: Mar 27, 2014

Oh wow so innovative. Smaller notch!! Meanwhile you have phones today without a notch. Lmaoo

15. Whitedot

Posts: 833; Member since: Sep 26, 2017

While the rest of the industry already embracing no -notch-bezeless Apple minimising it's notch by 20% ( sarcasm) .

17. User123456789

Posts: 1021; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

Analysts : the iphones in 2023 will have above 500 ppi for their screen. Also one model with bit over 3300mAh LOL

22. cmdacos

Posts: 4270; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

This just in: 2020's iPhones will have 2017 design elements

70. joey18

Posts: 668; Member since: Jul 20, 2010

how long this apple sales will go down

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