KGI's Kuo: Series 3 Apple Watch won't support stand alone phone calls at launch

Just yesterday, an inside source allegedly from Apple told CNBC that the Series 3 Apple Watch would be able to receive and initiate calls without having to be paired to an iPhone. Speculation has the wearable getting unveiled as soon as next month, alongside the 2017 iPhone models. In addition to making and taking stand alone calls, the new wearable should also be able to stream music even when not paired to an iPhone. Many tech fanatics, excited about the idea of a stand alone Apple Watch, are getting ready to purchase the wearable sometime before 2017 comes to an end.

However, this morning reliable Apple analyst Ming Chi-Kuo told his clients "not so fast." In an email message that he sent to them, Kuo said that he doesn't expect to see the new Apple Watch support stand alone calls immediately upon its launch. Before this feature takes place, the analyst says that Apple must first improve the "user experience of data transmission" on the timepiece. As a result, Kuo doesn't expect the Apple Watch to have the ability to make or take phone calls by itself this year.

Kuo does see the Apple Watch supporting VoIP services like Skype and FaceTime. The analyst points out that FaceTime audio is already available on current Apple Watch models. He also expects the lack of internal space inside the Apple Watch to force the company into using an embedded eSIM instead of a regular SIM card. The eSIM will be set so that an Apple Watch will share the same phone number belonging to the user's iPhone.

The analyst says that despite the legal issues between them, he expects that Apple will still use Qualcomm's chips to power the Series 3 Apple Watch. Kuo says that the latter's chips are superior to those offered by Intel, and use less power. In his note to clients today, Ming-Chi Kuo told them that despite rumors to the contrary, there are no obvious changes in the Series 3 form factor. He also pointed out to clients that while LTE connectivity is the main selling point for the Series 3 Apple Watch, not all markets will support LTE service for the device.

source: MacRumors



1. darkkjedii

Posts: 31291; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Why the hell not? WTF Apple, get this done. No more companion watches, standalone only.

2. Xilam unregistered

Maybe FTC thing or Apple afraid it may cannibalize iPhones sales (some people just need em to make calls and texts). Either way, I think that if it has internet LTE and support of 3rd party devs - pretty sure you'd be making calls the first month this thing is out.

3. darkkjedii

Posts: 31291; Member since: Feb 05, 2011


4. Xilam unregistered

Well it's rumored to have LTE as main new feature, and Apple Watch already has the biggest 3rd party developer support of any smartwatch.

5. darkkjedii

Posts: 31291; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Third party support doesn't concern me for watches. I sold my series one, cause it was boring to me. The Gear S3 has way fewer apps, but is a much better watch.

6. Xilam unregistered

Oh ok.

15. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

LTE just means it has 3G/4G radio. That isn't saying much due. The Gear S had it since 11/2014.

14. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Because they suck! Because all the money in the world, isn't the end all resolution. 5 years after the original Apple Watch was suppose to be released, Apple still can't get this right. DERP!!!!

7. ph00ny

Posts: 2052; Member since: May 26, 2011

More battery life please. Wife is already not wearing her watch all the time like i do Her response to my inquiry about not wearing the watch is that she's charging it

8. cmdacos

Posts: 4260; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Yep. Charging daily is unacceptable at this point and not going to get better with LTE.

10. tedkord

Posts: 17410; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

I see no issue with charging daily. I do it anyway while sleeping. I usually finish a full day with over 65% battery left on my smartwatch, so I could go two days between charges, but why? I just throw it on the charger when I go to bed.

12. cmdacos

Posts: 4260; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

My use case is different because my s3 is also used for sleep tracking.

16. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

The Gear S last about 1,5 days on a single charge with 3G capabilities. The Gear S2 has both 3G/LTE capbilities and last 2 days on a single charge. Gear S3 supports 4G/LTE and last up to 3 days. The present Apple Watch has no LTE capabilities and last up to 6 hours. Yes its gonna get damn worse when LTE is active. When you compare the Gear S3 at $360 vs the Apple Watch that starts at $350, you can see Apple seriously lacks any innovation. Yet the fools just run out and buy a watch that can't do more than tell time unless its linked to the phone. That was how the original Gear (Not Gear S) was. The orginal Gear was release in 11/2013. Exactly 14 months later Samsung brings the Gear S with full cellular capabilities. Original Apple Watch released April 2015 after a 2 year delay. Here we are now 2017 and none of the new releases have had LTE capabilities or any standalone capabilities at all. Apple Watch is an expensive joke vs the Gear which is just expensive. But at least it offers something Its a phone vs the Apple Watch begin a piece of jewelry first and a computer 2nd.

9. RoboticEngi

Posts: 1251; Member since: Dec 03, 2014

Nothing new. Apple have started to put their beta models up for sale now, where they gradually update their gear with the stuff they sell it with, when they finish developer it. Usually 3-5 months after release.....

11. S4NDY

Posts: 254; Member since: Mar 14, 2016

Hahaa A surprise that will be unfinished

13. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Samsung's first wearable that could make calls as a standalone device was made way back in 1998 and released to the public in 1999. Fast Forward to the age of better tech, and Samsung in November 2014, introduced the Gear S. The Gear S was the first available in recent years stand-alone smart-wearable that had 3G capabilities and its own SIM card. Since then Samsung has release an S2 and S3 model, all featuring 3G or 4G (Gear S3), Bluetooth and WiFi all in the same device. Battery-life varies from one day to as many as 3 on the latest model. All include 4GB of storage and all support audio over BT, so you can pair any Bluetooth wireless headset. Compare this to APple, who delayed the release of the original Apple Watch for almost 2 years. Then when they released the first, it was released with no useful features. After bragging for months about how the Apple Watch was gonna be chalked full of features, none of them panned out. It ended up having useless gimmicky stupid features, like send vibrations and squibbles. How innovative. The original Gear S looked like a shrunken down Galaxy S, with a full 360x360 high resolution SAMOLED display with vibrant colors and cool watch faces. Gear S2 introduces the newest innovation of a rotating bezel used to navigate the device vs just using touch. Gear S3 improved on this innovation and provides an even larger display. Apple since the original Gear S has now release 3 watches and yet none of them have 3G capabilities. Who is the true innovator? Apple is proof that having all the jack in the world can't make you lame. Gear for the win, Apple Watch still playing catchup. Gear S 11/14, 3 years later Apple will finally have what the Gear S had 3 years ago. More proof Apple is 3 years behind everyone else. Now watch, the first idiot, will talk about sales, because they can't brag abpunt innovative features. Apple can literally sell a brick with their logo and you all will swear it can build a better building than any brick before it. Even though its the same brick. At least with the Gear S, I was able to make phone calls right out the box after initial setup. $250B+and 3 years later, Apple can't even do what I did 3 years ago.

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