Here's how Trump hobbled a $1100 phone into a hummingbird recorder

The Mate 30 Pro that Huawei announced to the world yesterday is perhaps the most amazing piece of smartphone machinery ever produced when it comes to hardware. Huawei threw everything it has at this phone, and it's a lot.

The high-res "waterfall" display and "look, Ma, no buttons!" trends? Sure, they have them. Touchless navigation that is coming with the yet-unannounced Pixel 4? Yep, they put that in, too, just in case, like they did with face unlocking, in-display fingerpinting, ultrafast wireless and reverse charging, the works.

That's not even mentioning the only high-end all-in-one 5G chipset with the record 10 billion transistor count or record number of reception antennas, all the while it also carries two unprecedented in size main camera sensors that cover both the green and yellow for low-light pixel matrices.

There's one thing the Mate 30 Pro won't have, though, and it is Google's apps and services on the phone, as the White House ban on doing business with the company went into a full effect for new Huawei phones. 

What does that mean? Well, this short test is all you need to know about Google and geopolitics turning the most decked-out phone ever made into an expensive machine for recording a hummingbird's feeding routine in incredible slow-mo.

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Mate 30 Pro
  • Display 6.5" 1176 x 2400 pixels
  • Camera 40 MP / 32 MP front
  • Processor HiSilicon Kirin 990, Octa-core, 2860 MHz
  • Storage 256 GB + Nano Memory (NM)
  • Battery 4500 mAh



1. alanrock

Posts: 324; Member since: Oct 04, 2018

to release phone like this in year of disdain ... hummingbird catcher indeed, and much more.

2. TheOracle1

Posts: 2336; Member since: May 04, 2015

Very misleading clickbait article. It doesn't have Google Services pre-installed but they can be installed quite easily as stated by the Huawei ceo. The video doesn't show anything.

5. ijuanp03

Posts: 615; Member since: Dec 30, 2014

Google services is more than just having Google apps pre-installed to your device. It's also a collection of APIs to ensure your apps will work correctly. This is also the reason why Android phones in China do not work well with Google Play services. Synching and receiving notifications is a big mess because they are not built into the phone to begin with.

7. TheOracle1

Posts: 2336; Member since: May 04, 2015

Have you ever installed Google services and Framework on a China only phone? Because I have on a Huawei P20 and Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and everything worked fine and are still working almost two years later. Reading something online and taking it as gospel is completely different to actually doing it. The article already states that Huawei can push an update so that means the phones are ready.

16. Mikele

Posts: 175; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

Never mind, they are gospel of hatred in anything Huawei does because the company is flying higher each day on innovations. Forget the cry for Google services

22. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2448; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

YouTube won’t work. It was even confirmed yesterday that you can’t sideload YouTube on the device because it requires Google Play services in order to boot up. Hence what you are seeing on the video here. You could just go to YouTube on your browser but the experience leaves much to be desired. Source:

25. TheOracle1

Posts: 2336; Member since: May 04, 2015

I guess you haven't been reading the comments above? Everything will work with Google Framework installed. Trying to sideload individual Google apps on their own is silly and shows they're either stupid or have an ulterior motive.

31. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2448; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

Then your average consumer, or the large audience that your phone should work for, will not want to pick up the device. If someone who is tech savvy can do it, that’s fine. However, devices are made to be used by millions of people. If the way to get apps is even a little complicated then people are less likely to pick up said device. As others have pointed out before: when it comes down to spending $1100 on this or a Galaxy Note 10+, why should I choose this device when the other has everything working right out of the box? You can argue the camera is worth it, which may be the case for some people. However, I strongly believe the majority of people in countries within the EU are not going to choose it.

32. TheOracle1

Posts: 2336; Member since: May 04, 2015

But that's not the point we're making. The fact is that it can be done with very little effort or knowledge rather than the misleading impression that it's not possible at all. I've always advocated that Huawei pre-install the APKPure app on their phones as a safe, auto updating and viable alternative to the Play Store. On initial setup it could ask you if you want to install Google Framework and take you straight to the install package from there. Problem solved. But you're right, most people won't know how or want to try.

13. Bondurant

Posts: 784; Member since: Jun 04, 2014

Google services works pretty fine from all huawei phones purchased from China. That said, getting away from google apps is a good thing. Always hated the pre-installed gapps bloatware. And i have already worked on transition away from google apps which is a huge security risk to alternatives. No more chrome, no more gmapps and never used the rest of gapps. I have to work on replacing gmail but admittedly replacement of youtube is unlikely although im okay with using youtube long term.

15. Ashoaib

Posts: 3298; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

You are absolutely right bro. I have purchased chinese phone vivo xplay 3s many years ago. It came without any google services. It literally took 5 minutes to install everything. I am just a normal person and didn't knew much about app installation. I still have this phone laying in the drawer and there is nothing wrong in the phone. No issue what so ever. It is extremely easy to install google apps by yourself. I only use youtube and google maps. All other google apps are blotware to me.

23. jellmoo

Posts: 2623; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

There is concern that Google will block the install on the backend in order to remain compliant with the order. While ultimately there will likely be a workaround, it may lead to increased complexity levels limiting how far reaching such a solution could be.

3. mootu

Posts: 1530; Member since: Mar 16, 2017

The article should be titled How Trump Screwed over Europeans and Other Regions. Thats the areas that will suffer from this. The phone will still sell really well in China (worlds largest phone market) and it won't affect them in the slightest and Huawei is the number one OEM over there. China accounts for about 60% of Huawei's phone business. Rest of us that are outside the US and China that gets shafted by the Tangerine Toddler.

4. ijuanp03

Posts: 615; Member since: Dec 30, 2014

Everybody knows this. Huawei just can't grow in the US and that's what they are aiming for since forever.

8. TheOracle1

Posts: 2336; Member since: May 04, 2015

It's kinda difficult to grow when carriers aren't allowed to sell your phones.

17. MsPooks

Posts: 170; Member since: Jul 08, 2019

You're getting shafted by Huawei's own actions. Being mad because Huawei got punished for doing bad is infantile. How old are you?

19. TadTrickle

Posts: 78; Member since: Apr 08, 2019

Thank you mspooks! I was waiting to read a comment saying what you just did

20. TechNeck

Posts: 656; Member since: Aug 29, 2014

There is literally no justifiable proof showing they didn't anything wrong and if there is I have yet to see it. Majority of why this is happening is because of Trump and his petty little trade war squabbles that are affect a lot of the companies in the country and we're getting nothing from it except more expensive prices for consumer items and for small businesses.

6. CristianGMoraru

Posts: 10; Member since: Apr 27, 2019

Donald duck is scared, so he screwed over most countries because of it .

9. d1g1te

Posts: 64; Member since: Oct 04, 2016

Google services can be easily installed on Mate 30 by users with "one click" Google service installer. Like shown here Timestamp 5:30. Bigger issue is that Mate 30 is going to be sold just in China right now. So one have to import it to EU right now, until it will be officially sold in EU later this year or wait. Huawei should made it available in EU immediately after launch like always.

10. d1g1te

Posts: 64; Member since: Oct 04, 2016

It's funny how most people confuse US trade ban with Huawei that prevents Google from selling official Google services certification to Huawei with ability of phone to run some app, like Google apps.

11. d1g1te

Posts: 64; Member since: Oct 04, 2016

It's Google who decides if uncertified phones can use Google Apps, this is not paid service, it's free decision, so it does not fall into US ban limitation. Because by allowing uncertified phones to use Google Apps, Google does not sell anything to Huawei.

12. cmdacos

Posts: 4264; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Google would live to do business with Huawei which was the second largest phone manufacturer in the world. It's a data haven for Google. Google cannot provide services to Hauwei because Hauwei is on the entity list in the US preventing US companies from doing business with them. Nothing to do with Google's choices here...

14. d1g1te

Posts: 64; Member since: Oct 04, 2016

You are right, they would like to do business with Huawei and sell Google apps certifications to Huawei. But now because entity list they cannot. But allowing uncertified devices of using Google apps is not against entity list. Because Google is not making money out of it or providing any service to Huawei. Of course it's in Google's interest to sell Google services certification for phones and tackle phones without certification, as they are loosing money if non certified phones are running Google apps, but in this case they can make exception for Huawei and allow it to run Google apps even device it self it's not certified, as this was caused by political interference. I reiterate, allowing running of user installed Google Apps on uncertified phone should not be affected by entity list, as Google is technically not doing any business with Huawei or selling them any services.

18. MsPooks

Posts: 170; Member since: Jul 08, 2019

The phone does everything it claims to do, and is being universally praised. It shows how much of their lives people have handed over to Google, that they can't see life without them. "Oh no! This phone sucks because Google can't track my every interaction with it!"

21. Mikele

Posts: 175; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

Just tired about this site where writers and their followers would condemned what the other Tech sites has commended the efforts over the new product from Huawei. The Mate 30 series have come to stay good without Google services. The new philosophy from the Tech giant is RETHINK POSSIBILITIES

24. jellmoo

Posts: 2623; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

Sure, but the ecosystem is a big part of a phone buying decision. People buy devices with the intention to use the apps that they know and love. Other options exist, of course, but look how well that worked for Windows Phone.

26. Mikele

Posts: 175; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

I believe before winter time Harmony OS would be available for their mobile phones and P40 series in particular would be another miles away from their competitors

29. jellmoo

Posts: 2623; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

But how does that improve things? It would still be the same problem.

28. Mikele

Posts: 175; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

Microsort ruined themselves without innovations on their phone businesses after the company bought Nokia and we all knew it won't go far.

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