Has the thinning of the bezel gone too far?


This year, smartphone manufacturers have finally won the war against the bezel. The Galaxy S8, the Note 8, the LG G6 and V20, the iPhone X, and a whole ton of smaller name manufacturer phones are coming out with an all-display front that looks a lot like what concept designers dreamed of back in 2012.

Well, the future is here — we have phones that are, if not bezel-less, then extremely thin on the frame. And... they are not all that great to handle, are they? It takes just a few seconds for a user that has no experience with Samsung's Galaxy S8 to ask "Wait, how do I hold this?" once they grab Sammy's 2017 flagship.

Is this a bad thing or a good thing? Well, that's what we wanted to ask you – did the war on the bezel go too far? Maybe software developers need to take a long, deep thinking session on how to battle accidental touches? Maybe hardware manufacturers need to think about how a device that doesn't have a nice, thick frame to grab is easier to drop? What's your opinion?

Have bezels become too thin for comfort?

What? Sorry, I always use a case, no idea
20.47%
Nope! We should go thinner!
39.03%
I guess manufacturers need to make some adjustments, these things are becoming hard to hold
24.54%
Yes, way too thin. I am / planning on sticking with manufacturers that still have a nice, comfy bezel
15.96%

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64 Comments

1. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

Will the next iPhone be notchless ?

3. rubyonrails3

Posts: 375; Member since: Oct 01, 2014

I guess it depends on people response to X, I think I like the notch but thats me

21. Lumbergh

Posts: 463; Member since: Feb 14, 2016

Samsung GS8, Note 8, LG V30, and Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 executed reduced bezels to perfection. Who got it wrong - iPhone X and Essential Phone. Notches/cutouts are not the way to go.

42. uncle_gadget

Posts: 1050; Member since: Sep 20, 2017

Do you watch movie son your phones? Do you game? You ever view your phone display in landscape mode? In portrait mode the notch IMO, won't be as big of a deal. But when watching movies or gaming, if you use full screen then it means objects passing from behind this areas are gonna be blocked. Think of a war game where an enemy is coming from that side. You won't see them and that fraction of a second until you do, means you could be dead d=before you can react. All the devs are complaining about all the changes that apps needs now on iOS. There are literally millions of IOS apps that aren't gonna be updated, Which is goign to create a form of fragmentation as new apps will support the new display area and older ones won't. if you have both apps installed on your device, its gonna be an issue.

55. zunaidahmed

Posts: 1183; Member since: Dec 24, 2011

I think devs are meant to design apps taking the notch into consideration. The notch could be used for other things like showing battery life etc

4. PhoneInQuestion

Posts: 496; Member since: Aug 20, 2017

Don't count on it. Maybe reduced, but not significantly so.

9. Landon

Posts: 1245; Member since: May 07, 2015

We'll see the same iPhone X form factor probably for the next 3-4 years, given their track history.

19. danny_a2005

Posts: 361; Member since: Oct 06, 2011

HTC U11 please

26. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

Notch is actually very tolerable compared to the horrific finger print scanner placement of the Note 8 and it's humongous size...lol

30. PhoneInQuestion

Posts: 496; Member since: Aug 20, 2017

At least the note 8 has a fingerprint scanner...

38. Sammy_DEVIL737

Posts: 1529; Member since: Nov 28, 2016

You just got "iNotched".

45. uncle_gadget

Posts: 1050; Member since: Sep 20, 2017

Hah! Really? At least it still has a FPS. We will see how many people be complaining when Face ID fails 90+% of the time. Here is a fact, not picking on Apple. This is about Face Recognition in general. Unlike a Fingerprint Reader, your face will have far more points of failure. Fingerprint Reader has 3 points of failure and they are moisture, dirt and the component is broken. Face Recognition has several points of failure and they include, shadows, bright lights, morning face (many people face is crunched up due to how they sleep), facial expression, people with darker skin tones and more. https://www.wired.com/story/can-apples-iphone-x-beat-facial-recognitions-bias-problem/ http://theconversation.com/the-trouble-with-facial-recognition-technology-in-the-real-world-69685 Please if you are a real tech person, just web search "known issues with face recognition). The technology behind biometrics, all still have the same flaws. Fingerprints whether you swipe of not, still have the same issues and flaws that prevent them from working. I think it was a bad idea for Apple to drop FPS, simply because they couldn't get a newer type to work. What was wrong with the older type? NOTHING! Considering how you all bragged about it, was it replace with better technology? Nope! Was the headphone jack replaced with better technology? Nope. Loosing features like Touch ID and a headphone jack, for seriously flawed gimmicky features to me is dumb and if Samsung had did such...well we know what you'd be saying But you think the Note 8's FPS location is worse than a notched shoved into the main viewing area of a phone? You can't see the FPS period, unless you turn the phone over. The notch is 100% always gonna be present. You hate another OEM so much, that Apple implementation of a feature that is worse, you can be OK with simply because you hate another OEM? All I can say is wow....just wow!

31. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

I can't help wondering what St. Steve would have said about that notch. I suspect he would hate, hate, hate it and want the phone to have the same top/bottom bezel symmetry every iPhone had since 2007. Like the S8, G6, V30 have done.

46. uncle_gadget

Posts: 1050; Member since: Sep 20, 2017

Saint? lol No Steve is not a Saint. But the iPhone X would have been better than it is. iOS7-11 wouldn't look like it does now.

47. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

I wonder if he would have even grudgingly signed off on the iPhone Plus. Or the iPad mini for that matter. That would have been a lot of crow for one man to eat.

37. monoke

Posts: 1161; Member since: Mar 14, 2015

I bet they keep it just so they can remain a 'notch' above the rest!

40. PhoneInQuestion

Posts: 496; Member since: Aug 20, 2017

God. These puns.

64. ecmedic4

Posts: 520; Member since: May 02, 2013

Response to comment #1. What does the iPhone's notch have to do with phones being thinner and thinner? Your obviously trolling since you have been the first to post in several articles and its always a slight against the iPhone. Grow up, seriously. Be great if you were the next to get banned.

2. PhoneInQuestion

Posts: 496; Member since: Aug 20, 2017

Depends on the execution, is one phone easier to use just because of thinner bezels, does the UI need to catch up? I would end up using a case anyways so no matter.

5. Landon

Posts: 1245; Member since: May 07, 2015

I like the iPhone X bezels minus the notch at the top. Personally, the iPhone X bezels without a notch would be ideal.

6. surethom1

Posts: 31; Member since: May 01, 2009

Samsung & LG are my best design just enough on the Top to hold the sensors, the others are too thin, not a fan of the cut our screens. For the sides the thinner the better.

7. TMHKR

Posts: 202; Member since: Dec 08, 2012

The current results are mildly disturbing.

23. SyCo87

Posts: 305; Member since: Sep 19, 2013

Majority doesn't think that it is.

34. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

That's a plurality. Majority thinks it's gone too far or doesn't care. Kind of like the US election last year...

43. SyCo87

Posts: 305; Member since: Sep 19, 2013

No, based one the survey, a decent amount of people are OK with the thinner bezel because they have a case and most people want it even thinner. Put those numbers together and that makes it a majority of people fine with thin bezels.

8. surethom1

Posts: 31; Member since: May 01, 2009

Samsung's Galaxy S8 to ask "Wait, how do I hold this?" Thats because of the curved edges not the no Bezels, I much prefer flat screens, curved less secure to hold.

48. uncle_gadget

Posts: 1050; Member since: Sep 20, 2017

Don't you put cases on your phone? If so then I don't understand the issue with curved sides. With today's cheap phone designs, because glass and metal is easier to damage, a case is required. Which means a phone with curved sides with a case if no harder to hold vs any other phone.

10. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

I think the size in general is what's making most phones awkward to use, one-handed at least. The iPhone X should ideally have been smaller than the 7/8 with a larger screen - win/win! As it is pull down menus on all these new 5"+ screen phones need a hand shuffle to reach or two-handed use.

22. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"As it is pull down menus on all these new 5"+ screen phones need a hand shuffle to reach or two-handed use." Really? But it's different with me, man... I've still got my Galaxy S4, and I can pull down notifications with ease and can use the handset with a single hand. And remember, the S4 had big bezels by today's standards.

29. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

I heard people complaining about the iPhone X new pull-down menus being very hard to reach, this was from the YouTubers at the launch. Depends how you use your phone I guess. They're far less comfortable single-handed than they were in the 4.7" screen days.

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