HTC (M)10 seen in the flesh, blazes through AnTuTu leaving the competition behind

With just a little over two weeks left before HTC announces its flagship (One) (M)10, the intensity of leaks has, naturally, increased. We've got renders of the new phone—which paint a familiar, yet different device—some hardware specifications, and all kinds of other slivers of intel. The latest to hit the street? An image of the HTC 10 (or whatever it ends up being called), after it had supposedly tackled the AnTuTu benchmark.

The image you see on the right, the best we can tell, is legit. The sender, who's chosen to stay anonymous, is located in Taiwan (where HTC is based), which lends some further credibility to the photo. The shot was taken with a Samsung Galaxy S7, which we know both because of the reflection and the untouched EXIF attached to the photo, which lists an SM-G930F, or an Exynos-based Galaxy S7 like the one we have in our offices. It checks out.

Our CSI endeavors aside, the HTC 10 in the image seems to be quite the performer, managing over 156,000 points on AnTuTu—more than both the Galaxy S7 on average, and even the G5, of which we only have preliminary results available through a pre-production unit we had in for testing. Given how the upcoming flagship is expected to arrive on the scene with a Snapdragon 820 processor and 4GB powering its Quad HD screen, that's a nice surprise. 

Anyone excited about the HTC 10?



1. tyrionTheWise unregistered

I'm so excited for this phone. Not because of the antutu of course. If HTC manages the battery life well, this phone can definitely leave the disappointing S7 and G5 in dust. Camera should be an easy win with IMX 377 and OIS.

6. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

IF they dont remove adopt sd feature this phone has my name on it.

8. tyrionTheWise unregistered

What if you want to factory reset your phone? Adopt SD is made for android one phones with 8 gb internal storage. There's a reason google or apple don't put SD cards in their phones.

33. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

You can add adopt SD to phones without root. So I don´t see the problem.

77. nithyakr

Posts: 161; Member since: Jun 20, 2014

I've read somewhere if you adopt SD, then your PC or any other card reader will not be able to read it since the phone formats and encrypts the SD card as an Internal Memory. So Even if you have the SD card you will not able to use it with any other device. That's why Samsung didn't add that feature to the S7 series.

78. Ericzhf

Posts: 18; Member since: Nov 27, 2012

That is not true, you can format it what ever you want on PC, and use it on phone and any other device.

87. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

He was on about you unable to use the card to transfer images and so in to the of by putting in the card, this is true, also if the phone goes wrong or gets reset, you cards info is also gone

89. MotoFoner

Posts: 34; Member since: May 11, 2015

Just plug the phone to the PC via USB, or Air Droid. What's wrong with you people - are you stuck in 2008?

79. Anonn

Posts: 230; Member since: Jun 04, 2014

86. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

It's clear the phone only got 1080p screen or they cheated, by making it run as 1080p mode or way over clocking the CPU and so on, the sd820 can not get this score with a 2 k screen Htc as cheated big time and had modes to do so in the setting, so the score is crap

11. Shocky unregistered

Sometimes you make a lot of sense and then you make comments like this and I'm left wondering if someones hacked your account. :D

14. tyrionTheWise unregistered

What exactly is wrong in my comment? Camera alone is enough reason to not switch to S7 or G5. S7 is actually a degrade from S6 in camera and G5 has the same camera as G4. Add to the fact that how much of an HTC fan I used to be in the days of m7, and I can't be less excited.

21. Shocky unregistered

Okay, I'll humor you. In what way is the Galaxy S7 camera a downgrade? other than the number of Megapixels of course.


Posts: 1168; Member since: Oct 05, 2015

Because it traded things instead of simply improving all around like the S6's camera did over the S5. Given the same PP, detail suffers when you drop the MP count. Period. Also, there was no need to make all the sensor's pixels dualies. If 25% of them were, it would yield essentially the same effect to consumers. And they cheaped out and didn't go with a bigger sensor which would have made the virtues of the camera even better.

37. Shocky unregistered

They only traded detail which from what I've seen the 12MP shooter does pretty well at anyway.

38. tyrionTheWise unregistered

It boasts on being the low light king but gets beaten badly to 6p. See MKBHD review or any review. And gets destroyed in daylight by S6 in sunlight. Not to mention nexus 6P. With S6 you had an amazing normal camera, and a decent low light camera. With manual mode and a 10$ gorilla pod, I can pull off shots that are considered impossible by phone standards. With S7 you lost resolution, but they didn't alter their image processing algorithms. As a result, S7 loses a lot of detail due to terrible sharpening and noise reduction. And what do you get in return is a marginally better low light camera. What more, you lose the excellent 16:9 mode at full res. I can take out my S6 and proudly say that it beats any phone in at least one area. With S7 you just get a jack of all trades, master of none. Nexus 6P or even the cheap 5X beats it in any condition. If you can't beat a 6-month old phone that costs 300$ less in even one lighting condition, you are a loser.

40. Shocky unregistered

Seems fine to me Please don't post anything from Erica, her and her "boyfriend" have an agenda. Sounds to me like your butt hurt the Galaxy S7 has a better camera than your Galaxy S6 and you're desperately trying to convince yourself otherwise.

48. tyrionTheWise unregistered

Hahaha. DxOmark is a joke. Do you really think the Z5 has a better camera than S6? Or the iPhone 5S has a better camera than lumia 1020 or pureview 808? DxoMark has been posting bullcrap articles for years. I admit that there are better cameras than my S6 for months now, like the 6P or 5X. But the S7 is not one of them. Here's from the MKBHD. review. S7 is shamefully bad in low light despite having that brighter lens and OIS. Please don't post DxOMark links. Only desperate Sony fanboys do it since it's the only source that rates Sony phones high.

50. Shocky unregistered

I've had hands on with the Galaxy S7 myself and done comparisons to my Galaxy S6 and it handles low light much better from my experience, most of that was due to the fast autofocus imo. So I'm strongly learning towards DxOMark being correct. I'll try MKBHD's link when I get the chance, currently in work. :D

60. torr310

Posts: 1659; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

I agree DxOMark isn't a creditable website. Sony Z series just take crappy pictures. I also agree camera on S7 is faster and has better night shots. (just switched from S6 to S7) I would get HTC10 if the battery lasts longer because S7 (SD820) is only slightly better than the S5.

56. Macready

Posts: 1821; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

Yes, yes, youtube comparisons from random individuals are so much more useful as a source to compare cameras. Keep your credibility up by avoiding nonsensical arguments. At least DXO has data to back up their claim. You may not agree with how they weigh their data, but it's still objective data, not some random video without any standardized methods.

63. TywinTheWiser

Posts: 2; Member since: Mar 24, 2016

Come now. The mkbhd is literally creating the one use case where the s7 currently would lose. In the DXO review it literally says as a con " Under a tungsten light source, a warm/yellow cast is visible." now how would this manifest in a night shot... as grainy noise of course. So it seems like a deliberate choice here to be controversial and get those youtube views. The only downside i see is in daylight the potential for light blowouts because of the apeture..but this can easily be corrected on the software side....

68. rd_nest

Posts: 1656; Member since: Jun 06, 2010

MKBHD is an idiot. Here's the proof:

88. TywinTheWiser

Posts: 2; Member since: Mar 24, 2016

Wow. That means my pentium II is the best chip ever!

76. mixedfish

Posts: 1555; Member since: Nov 17, 2013

LMAO DXO is a joke? Maybe try reading it rather than looking at the scores and you'll find how wrong you are. But you are always wrong anyway. Everything beats the Lumia 1020 and 808 because both cameras are let down in score by the video capabilities (first reason why initial score seems low). They also suffer from chromatic aberration (and soft edges) and DXO doesn't re-review cameras after any significant updates which the 1020 and 808 received in order to achieve the picture quality we associate them with. To further how wrong you are, the S7 has a full sensor phase detection layer. If that is not a class leading feature, what is?

82. Shocky unregistered

He posted one example, only a idiot would come to a conclusion based on that. Was he cherry picking by any chance because he's a big fan of the Nexus 6p? He's not infallible. As others have probably said already, DxO highlighted areas where the S7 camera was not coping too well, this appears to be one of those cases. They may fix this in future updates.

84. tyrionTheWise unregistered

Just like Samsung fixes things with updates, that will probably happen next year in March when it gets android N.

51. rubyonrails3

Posts: 375; Member since: Oct 01, 2014

S7 might have better camera than S6 but Nexus 6p resolve more detail from scene and I have Nexus 6p and S7 edge but for my taste 6p images are better cuz you can zoom in and no sharpening and a lot of detail best camera in term of resolved details. S7 images are brigther in doubt but when you zoom they show over sharpening a lot.

58. Macready

Posts: 1821; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

No it won't, in RAW, that faster lens helps the S7 beat the 6P handily and even using the mediocre in camera jpeg engines and auto modes, the S7 does better in many low light tests (less noise, more fine detail, see the British bank note):

70. keithtae

Posts: 564; Member since: Mar 25, 2015

Lmao. Even Phonearena recent post saying there is NO trade off from 16mp to 12mp for the s7 camera. Get your eyes checked

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