Google will now limit you to four de-authorizations of Google Play Music each year

Google will now limit you to four de-authorizations of Google Play Music each year
Google is now limiting the number of de-authorizations for Google Play Music users, to four devices per year. Google does allow each account to connect up to ten devices with the service, although only four of them get All Access. If you do bump up against the ten device limit, think twice about which devices you are authorizing, because four de-authorizations could be reached very quickly under those circumstances.

Back in 2012, Google had originally placed a limit of four de-authorizations a year. Back then, a public outcry followed Google's announcement, which led to a reversal. This time, it doesn't look like this will be the case. And if you do go over the limit, don't expect a stern warning from Google. Instead of a message, it just won't remove the device you requested.

Even if you don't switch devices often, you could run into the limit. Each time you do a factory reset, Google creates a duplicate device. And Google has been known to accidentally dupe a device for no reason. Perhaps if the crew in Mountain View were to give a reason for the limit, everyone would be more understanding.

If you can get a Google rep on the phone who is having a good day, apparently he can clean out your entire authorized device list in 24 hours, and let you start from the beginning with four de-authorizations to your name. But this seems to be a courtesy that Google will give you once a year, and only if you ask nicely.

source:  AndroidPolice via MobileSyrup



66. Goldeneye

Posts: 419; Member since: Jan 22, 2011

One more reason to keep my Spotify subscription, plus it's available on all platforms Windows Phone included and yes I use Android, iOS and Windows. There are Google fan boys that will justify everything Google does period.

62. LikeMyself

Posts: 631; Member since: Sep 23, 2013

Play Music was trash, at least for me, now has become even more s#¡t! Glad it's disabled on my devices! No equalizer,...

54. Nobodey

Posts: 76; Member since: Jan 03, 2010

So.. You can have it on 10 devices at any given time, you have have it deauthorized on 4 different devices a year, and if you ask nicely, you can have it deauthorized an additional 4 times.. THAT'S 18 DEVICES a year!!!! I don't care who you are, if you are switching/romming 18 times a year you have a problem. I think the outrage is a little overdone here.

59. tedkord

Posts: 17544; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

If you're judging someone for liking to tinker with their device that they own (I buy retail, I don't subsidize), then you're the one with a problem.

63. Nobodey

Posts: 76; Member since: Jan 03, 2010

I like to tinker. =) I only carry Nexus devices, so I love to tinker. =) But 18 times? And lets say you install a bootloader (which could be one device..) but then you add a rom (which could be another), but then play with it and decided that you want another (which could be yet another device). Why would you load Google Play music between each install? Its going to (in theory) register the device when you first open it (the application, not the service). So you can install a million roms and it will only register as one additional device

34. AlikMalix unregistered

I dont use Google Services, I like iTunes Radio, but 4 is still very generous. I dont know why you're all complaining. Someone has to pay the bills..

38. Zero0

Posts: 592; Member since: Jul 05, 2012

Someone has to pay the bills, and someone is I and the other people who are complaining. The customer is always right. I had 4 LG VS980s authorized in my account. I own, and have ever owned, one of these devices. That shouldn't happen. Count it as one device, and I'm happy.

40. tedkord

Posts: 17544; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

I am paying the bill, to use it on up to 10 devices. In reality, I have it only on 3 - mine, my wife's and my son's phones. However, since I like to experiment with different roms and tweaks, it keeps showing up as a different device when I change roms. Now, in short order, I'm no longer going to be able to use it on my phone because I won't be able to deauthorize the old instance of my phone, even though it's the same phone. It's bullsh1t, and I've already told Google so. Fix it or I go to a competing music service.

41. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Um. Wahh? It's an anti piracy measure, dude. If screwing with a ton of different ROMs triggers it, that's your problem. Most people don't have to mess with their phones like you. Learn to accept it as one of many consequences of rooting and flashing ROMs.

44. tedkord

Posts: 17544; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

It's not anti piracy. No matter what, you're still limited to 10 devices, and only one can be used at a time. Limiting the deauthorizations does literally nothing to stop piracy, all it does is stop enthusiasts from using the service. It's a nonsense rationalization.

70. reckless562

Posts: 1153; Member since: Sep 09, 2013

go home u debbie downer

43. boosook

Posts: 1442; Member since: Nov 19, 2012

And this means that there are three different people sharing one subscription, and listening to whatever they want for $3,33 per month, and still you are complaining? This is exactly what Google is trying to avoid (people sharing one license).

45. tedkord

Posts: 17544; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

This is not what they are trying to avoid. I'm not sharing one license. I'm using the one license in exactly the way they permit. In fact, I can legally put it on seven more phones. That is the license they allow. Stop rationalizing for Google, they are wrong in this instance. I'm not even changing phones, it's the same device. They shouldn't even be counting it as a different device.

46. tedkord

Posts: 17544; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

But to put the lie to your rationalizing, even if I only had it on my phone, I flash a new rom once a week or so. That means that after 14 weeks, I can't use the service I'm paying for on my phone for the rest of the year. One person, one device. That is absurd.

47. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

I think it's absurd that you think Google should make special accomodation for your use case. A new ROM per week is not in any way normal, not even among people into flashing ROMs on their devices. Think about this: if you have unlimited deauthorizations, your ID can be passed around to as many people as possible, who all download the music you've purchased and then just deauthorize their devices when they're done so it can be passed around to the next 10 people.

48. tedkord

Posts: 17544; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

The music is encrypted. It will no longer play on a deauthorized device. This has zero impact on piracy. None. Zilch. Zip. No matter how much passing around is done, only ten devices can use the service, and only one at a time. I don't want special treatment. I want to use the service I pay for. It doesn't matter if it's normal or not. BTW, my example was an illustration. I don't flash that often, but I would run up against the limit in a year.

49. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Yes, because encryption can never be broken. Come on, you're smarter than this. And doesn't matter; if you're running up against that limit, then you are an outlier use case.

50. tedkord

Posts: 17544; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Encryption is rarely broken, especially today with 128bit being the standard. It would be easier to download the songs and just pass my phone around for people to listen. You know that. This move does not affect piracy in any way, and isn't designed to. Outlier or not, if I'm paying for a service, I should be able to use that service.

52. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

And you do get to use that service, within reasonable limitations of course. I think you're just looking for a reason to whine.

56. Awalker

Posts: 1988; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

It's not reasonable at all when other streaming services don't have a device limit. And if someone wanted to pirate music there's far easier ways to do it then to use Play music.

60. tedkord

Posts: 17544; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

It's not reasonable in any way. There's a hard limit to its use that isn't affected in any way. No matter what, only one device can use it at a time. What's unreasonable is that they count a new rom as a different device, there's no reason to.

61. tedkord

Posts: 17544; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

It's unreasonable to use it on the same device I was using it on before? No, what's unreasonable is calling it a different device in the first place. If I buy a piece of software for my PC with one install license, then later upgrade my OS from say, Vista to 8, should I no longer be allowed to use that software on it? Sounds absurd, but it's exactly what you're advocating.

53. AfterShock

Posts: 4147; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

So you share your main google account with the wife an kids to access google music? Or have created a dummy account with no information tied to it? As if you share the account. Aren't your two free riders also downloading your phone book an calendar etc...? That is not the intent Google had in mind and is abuse period. Sorry I don't like to poke a brother but yeah.

58. tedkord

Posts: 17544; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Right. So I should get separate cable subscriptions for each person in my household, or only watch it myself. And Internet access, I should have a subscription for each person. Netflix, one for each of us. I'm using the service within their terms. It's allowed to be on up to ten devices, but only one can use it at a time. I'm not circumventing that and streaming to me than one at a time. I'm not passing it out to friends. Google is wrong on this.

68. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

"Google is wrong on this." Yes they are. But trying to reason with those who worship Google is a waste of time. Well, not completely. It does offer some entertainment, in the form of Greek tragedy, for the rest of us :)

30. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

I think it's pretty obvious why there's a limit. It's to keep people from passing a Google ID around to illegally share music. It's not the greatest policy, but I at least understand why they enacted it.

28. InJuxHurYlem

Posts: 28; Member since: Oct 07, 2009

I've had two Android phones over the past year and have done several factory resets and I only see my two devices listed on my account. I don't think Google needs to cater their policies around the ROM-flashing-enthusiast niche crowd. How about instead of all the QQing, you setup a new Google account once you hit the cap and sign up for Google Music on it and cancel it on your old account. Don't tell me it's too much work because it would take about 1/20th of the time required to flash a new ROM on your phone.

42. Bjray

Posts: 199; Member since: May 29, 2014

Um.... It doesn't take long at all to flash ROMs. More like 1 ~ 2 minutes max and that's just waiting the whole time. I see your point but there shouldn't have to be a workaround in the first place.

51. AfterShock

Posts: 4147; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

What about your email an apps we've invested time or money into? Did you really give this any though?

64. Zero0

Posts: 592; Member since: Jul 05, 2012

My music library has about 1,500 songs. I'm not rebuilding that again.

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