Google may face $9 billion in damages over use of Java code in Android

Google may face $9 billion in damages over use of Java code in Android
The next, and probably final, chapter in the ongoing Google vs Oracle saga may see the Big G paying close to $9 billion in damages to Oracle, over illigitemate use of Java code in Android. Google has gone too far in its use of Oracle's APIs to develop its ubiquitous mobile OS, and this constitutes a violation of Oracle’s copyrights, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit ruled Tuesday. The task of determining the exact amount of damages that Google owes Oracle has been delegated to a lower federal court in San Francisco.

Oracle first took Google to court back in 2010, and over the span of eight years, the legal dispute between the two companies has become one of the biggest, and most divisive, rivalries in Silicon Valley. Back in 2016, Oracle even went as far as lobbying European antitrust regulators over Google's privacy policies. And it all started because Google wanted to make Android compatible with apps written in Java, but rather than procuring the proper licenses from Sun Microsystems (that was before Oracle acquired the company), Google opted to take some code from Java and replace it with its own.

This whole time Google has been trying to argue that its use of Oracle's Java APIs was entirely covered under fair use, because it was done with the goal of achieving compatibility with the Java platform. In 2014, however, the Federal Circuit court ruled that APIs are copyrightable, which turned the tables in the landmark case. Google's claims of fair use were rejected on grounds that the company did not seek full compatibility with the Java platform, but rather limited compatibility with only part of the code, which it had previously appropriated.

The landmark case between the two companies is likely drawing to a close, but it won't go out without Google putting up a fight for the last time. The Big G is "likely to ask that either the three-judge panel reconsider its decision, or have the issue go before all active judges of the court," Bloomberg reports. If all else fails, the company could finally try to take the case to the Supreme Court.

source: Bloomberg



1. antroid

Posts: 392; Member since: Jan 24, 2018

It's not over yet, I think google might pay some damages but hopefully it will be less than 9 billions

9. IT-Engineer

Posts: 566; Member since: Feb 26, 2015

I seriously hope Oracle loses this one. Their main goal for buying Java was to sue Google. They sued Google right after they bought Java. And they have not invested much in further development of Java or any proper Java IDE.

12. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3147; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

Their main goal was to make money. Why didn't Google buy Sun Microsystems if they knew they were hijacking Java? Oracle was smarter than Google. That's capitalism - sink or swim.

13. sgodsell

Posts: 7433; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

IBM was looking to buy Sun back in 2008. HP was also looking at purchasing Sun as well. However Oracle and Sun came to an agreement in April 2009. To sum it up there were lots of players looking at purchasing Sun. Oracle paid out 5.4 billion in total for Sun and its assets, which included Java.

2. babyk

Posts: 379; Member since: Nov 03, 2011

know your friends in business

5. lyndon420

Posts: 6822; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

Sometimes friends cost more than enemies - they're the ones who know you best.

3. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3147; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

Richard Petty famously said "if ya ain't cheatin', ya ain't tryin'." Pay up Google, ya got caught.

4. Venom

Posts: 3692; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Companies like Oracle and blackberry are using litigation as a crutch to make money instead of trying to stay with what's current.

7. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3147; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

No, they're using litigation to get what is rightly theirs regardless if the technology is 100 years old. You wanna play like a sport, you pay like a sport.

10. Venom

Posts: 3692; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

But how can you play and innovate if trolls try to litigate everything?

11. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3147; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

You're not innovating if you're stealing IP. If a "troll" is suing, that means the troll already did the innovating. You just don't get it do you?

14. Venom

Posts: 3692; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I don't get it? I'm not the one who is living in the past with stone age ideologies. What I am trying to say is that how can you move ahead and innovate, make what exists better if you are hampered by patent trolls litigating for every little thing? Wanna know why keyboard cases don't exist? Because of blackberry.

8. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

Copyright infringement is still current. Intellectual property theft is also still current. Without these laws no innovation is safe.

6. lyndon420

Posts: 6822; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

Tie this all together with ms's Android Licensing Fees...

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