Did you know: average revenue per employee at Apple is nearly double that at Google
posted by Victor H. / Feb 11, 2016, 3:45 AM
When you look at the bigger picture, the economy on the whole, it's striking how things have changed: from times when oil and utilities companies being at the top, we are now living in a world where the biggest companies are Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.
This truly is a monumental shift, but one can't fully comprehend its scale unless you get some hard numbers to look at. It's particularly striking to see how much average revenue has been generated per employee in 2015. It might be no surprise that Apple is first in this list, but even to us it was surprising to see the mind-boggling multi-million number below.
Revenue per employee of the big tech companies, as per 2015:
- Yahoo: $419,830
- Twitter: $462,009
- MSFT: $789,145
- Google: $1,160,648
- Facebook: $1,412,655
- Apple: $2,032,304
Revenue, however, is not always a great measure of success, as some companies generate a lot of revenue, while remaining unprofitable. Is that the case for the tech companies as well? The answer is that it differs: some are losing money, while others are generating tons of cash.
Here is the average profit per employee for the same companies in 2015:
- Twitter: -$129,334
- Yahoo: $54,182
- MSFT: $102,822
- Google: $250,367
- Facebook: $290,600
- Apple: $464,296
Twitter's dire state at the moment has seen the company really fall down in the profit rankings as the microblog is undergoing a tough transition, but even struggling Yahoo manages to deliver more than $50,000 in profit per employee in the past year. Impressive, isn't it?
source: Dustin Curtis on Twitter
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Who can crush Apple at Profits? Their whole product lineup including accessories are overpriced.
posted on Feb 11, 2016, 4:04 AM 19
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It's the consumer that allows Apple to get away with those prices. It's also Apple charging flagship prices for their iPhone 6/6s which doesn't have flagship specs like a low resolution display, a camera without OIS. Consumers and Apple have to take the blame. Fool me once shame on you Apple. Fool me twice shame on me.
posted on Feb 11, 2016, 4:10 AM 12
My thing is... Overpriced compared to whom? Nearly every PC manufacturer is not making very much money per unit sold and neither are the vast majority of Android OEMs. Which means that nearly everyone else aside from Apple has the opposite problem, pricing their devices too low. I'm not suggesting everyone charges at Apple levels, but something needs to change because the situation is not tenable. There is a reason Samsung and Apple are basically the only two companies really making money in the smartphone market and virtually everyone else is either in the red or breaking even. Falling prices for Android phones are great for the customer, but that is killing OEM's. They are selling those low priced high spec devices either at cost, or at a loss. Companies like Xiaomi and LeTV aren't as affected because they make their money from virtual markets and services that the devices are a gateway to, but that isn't a luxury anyone else really has. Downmarket pressure is dragging everyone along with it. And that affects R&D & wages more than anything else. The same is true when it comes to PC's and laptops running Windows. It is simple economics. The lower your margins, the more products you need to sell in order to bring in money. With a maturing smartphone market, that strategy is becoming less and less viable. http://www.theverge.com/2016/2
posted on Feb 11, 2016, 4:41 AM 10
Which is exactly why so many PC manufacturers have either gone under or sold their laptop/desktop divisions over the past decade. It isn't really about gamesmanship, it's simple math. ASP's for PC's have been falling year after year. So even if there was some surge in laptop and desktop sales, they're making less and less money on each and every one they sell. On average, the big five were making about $15 for every laptop or desktop they sold in 2013. Things haven't really improved much since then.
posted on Feb 11, 2016, 7:28 AM 1
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What are you trying to say? You sound like a moron. You are providing the exact reasons for why Apple is so successful. Other companies wish their fanboys were more loyal. This isn't a bad thing.
posted on Feb 11, 2016, 11:19 AM 1
Sony had in the past.. Everybody (older ppl) know sony was the lead b4 this crp apple.. And it is ape company where couldn't stand sony in the past so aplle was jelaous and stolen sonys "base" from where sony been making ideas from and doing pretty much same, selling expensive gadgets.. Now apple destroyed sony (they tried to destroy sony pictures, they pretty much destroyed sony music..in USA
posted on Feb 11, 2016, 11:26 AM 0
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Samsung does have them. They simply spend more of their money which ends up being less profits. consider a company the size of Samsung Electronics, that makes way more products than Apple, has 3 times the employees making roughly half as much in profit as Apple is actually a huge deal. If Apple makes 10B in profit and Samsung only makes 6B...whats the problem? Samsung has to spend way more money? They first make their own components which costs mor ethan buyign them. They have their own design team, not buying someone elses work and shving it into your products. They have a larger distribution channel, they have more products. What happens when the iPhone isnt as profit bae...what does Apple do next? If smartphone fall down which they will, Samsung sells other s**t. What else does Apple sell? Their cars are not goign to sell above established companies liek Tesla or Toyota. In fact they wont even outsell Chrysler. Why do you caar how much money they make? What is YORU benefit? Are you a stockholder? Because their products show they dont spend very much money and maybe they dont need too because as you said, they have such loyal fans. They arent loyal because they want to be, they actually have to be. Because all the s**t you buy with an Apple logo, only works with s**t with an Apple logo. Your music will play on an android but many dont even know that. The movies wont work outside of iTunes. Teh apps only work on iProducts. So once you spend so much money, how can you leave? That' isn't loyalty dude, that's prison! With Windows and Android, yes you are locked in a prison. But that prison is more free. You arent handcuffed to a brand. if one brand makes you made, you pack yoru stuff and move to another brand and all your stuff still works...ALLLL OF IT! Try that with Apple. Why do you guys who think you're so smart, lack so much loggia and creative thinking? That is what Apple products do. They make you stupid. They are so simplified to where they hurt your brain. Everytime I read a stupid post liek your it burns me up. Because you just don't get it. Profits? Is that all you can brag about? They are a corporation. If you dont make money you die. No oen knows this better than apple. Because they knwo any day their brand is goign to die unless they can create some fad product to sell. The Mac all but killed them. Being only 20% of their income, Apple couldnt survive on Mac sales only. What happens when the iPhone can't sustain them?
posted on Feb 12, 2016, 4:44 PM 0
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I get so sick of this argument you guys repeat this stupid s**t over and over again. PC makers have to all compete with them all using Windows. Their only mode of attack is tryign to make their PC look different and lowering the price. Apple yes sells the most PC's above $1000. You know why? They all pretty much cost $1000 and if you want one that si what you have to pay. I dont have to pay $1000 for an equal or better PC to the Mac. In fact I can get a very good PC for $750 a nice mid-ranged one for $1000-$1200 and a top of the line one woudl be roughly $2000 and the professional level PC with cost at least $3000. This vs Apple who sales a low end PC for $999 and a mid-range laptop for $1500 and they dont even have a Pro PC unless you think the Mac Pro is just because it costs $3000. Go an price another brand of PC for $3000 and see what it comes with. Same crap with phones. Apple has the benefit of havign their own OS. if you want it, you have to pay what they charge. You dont have to pay and arm and a less for an Android with similar specs. The iPhone 6S is $649. An Android with the same internals is $400. the iPhone 6 Plus is $749, an Android with the same internals is roughly $500. That same lame ass argument is repeated over and over again. apple is in their own world. They charge what they want. Everything they sell is costing 3 times its actual value because people are stupid enough to buy it. But not all will which is why Windows has 1.4Billion users and OSX doesn't. That why Android has 1.3Billion users and iOS doesn't. Dell can't sell a PC liek the Mac for $1000 because no one would buy it, unless all the brands sold a similar PC for $1000. Don't you get that? In all these years why can't you gusy understand simple economics. A Ferrari costs $250,000 because no one is building a similar car for a lower price. If it was, Ferrari woudlnt be able to sell a car for $250,000 if someone made an equal or better car for less. If you want an iPhone or Mac, you have to pay what Apple charges. If other OEM's also had iOS as an option or Mac OSX as an option for their hardware and sold them liek they do now, Apple would be ran out of business because if I can get a Dell XPS runnign OSX for $1000, why woudl I pay $1500 for a Mac to do the same thing? If I could get a Galaxy S running iOS for $599, you think I woudl pay $649 to do the same thing? Why don't you guys understand this? Rolex can sell a watch for $10,000 because no one else is making a watch like it for less than that. Since diamonds actually aren't worth a single dime because they are just rocks, someone could release a nice Swiss watch with diamonds all over it for $2000 and run Rolex out of business. Dell, HP and others can't make what Apple makes because they cant sell hardware at exorbitant prices. HTC and Samsung can't make as much money off phones because they dont sell them at exorbitant prices....
posted on Feb 12, 2016, 4:19 PM 0
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It costs Samsung $280 to make a Galaxy S which is 99% first party parts. The only part I am aware of that isn't made by Samsung is the cameras. They sell the phone for a starting price of $599. That means for every base model S they make $319. Compare to Apple who makes an iPhone for $220 which they sell for $649 to start. The 6S only costs a little more to make maybe $230 or so. Do the math for a phone that sells for $649/$749. That $429/$529 per phone. We already know, Apple pockets at least $200 with every phone sell...THAT'S POCKET!!!! But where is the money going? With all that money why is the specs so s**tty? Why is the display not 1440p? Why are they still using 2.0MP cameras? Why can't they fix iOS so there isn't so much space between the icons rows? Why cant we have default apps? Because they know no one woudl use Apple's own s**tty apps, that's why. They force you to use their apps by default. Now you're forced to get your devices repaired by them too. That si how they make so much money. They also rarely have cost cutting deals. Retailers can do whatever they want because they already bought their stock and the same for carriers. Its simply math dude. What school did you guys go too? I'm sure you all went to a better school than I did and I didnt go to college either and yet you all seem so dumb.
posted on Feb 12, 2016, 4:26 PM 0
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