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Did Nokia fake the still photos too?
Yesterday, our eagle-eyed commenters were among the first to notice a weird reflection on what everyone was led into thinking to be sample video footage of the Nokia Lumia 920. That reflection in a van’s window was pretty blurry, but still clear enough to see the cameraman holding a camera much larger than the Lumia 920.

Turns out, while all visible clues pointed this being the first demonstration of the new Lumia 920 camera capabilities, Nokia was only showing a simulation.

“This was not shot with a Lumia 920. At least, not yet. We apologize for the confusion we created,” Nokia later officially apologized in a blog post. While Nokia blames it all on “confusion,” it’s troubling to see something of that scale being confused.

And now, former Helsinki resident and blogger Youssef Sarhan is accusing Nokia of “confusing” not just the video, but the still images too. Looking at some of the image stills from Nokia’s promotional video for the Lumia 920, Sarhan encountered an image obviously shot in Finland at dusk. Interestingly, he noticed the diffractions from city lights. Diffractions are that spikey star-like effect you usually get when shooting bright lights with very small aperture.

“It’s impossible for a camera with a fixed aperture of f/2 to generate so many spikes from a light source. These kind of diffractions are typical of a DLSR camera with a smaller aperture like f/22. So, it makes perfect sense that if Nokia were to fake the video, they would also fake the stills; which they almost certainly have,” Sarhan explains.

Can you trust Nokia after all this? The company apologized for the video and posted a new one, but maybe it should also issue an apology for the still photos.

source: sefsar

Did Nokia fake the still photos too?

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posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:17 11

1. Hemlocke (unregistered)

This would be relevant except for the fact that there are videos out already showing Nokia folks actually taking pictures at Nokia World against the iPhone 4s and SGS3, and making them both look bad.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:23 23

6. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)

They didn't switch on flash in either the S3 or 4S, the S3 has one of the brightest flashes I have ever seen!
In short, Nokia's new announcements suck... and WP8 looks cluttered

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:32 14

11. MENillli (Posts: 3; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)

The flash is to detect the ISO, so in a sense they ARE using flash, but didn't take it with it, checkmate fanboy

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:49 10

19. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)

HDR. Heard of it? If not, learn it.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:14 3

27. groupsacc (Posts: 232; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)

Yeah, that's exactly what I've thought about this new PureView tech on low mega pixels sensors. HDR.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 07:24 7

46. alpinejason (Posts: 262; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)

the g3 has one of the brightest flashes you have ever seen??one of maybe but NOT THE BRIGHTEST!!!i have a almost 5 year old nokia N82 the very first phone with a xenon flash and i have put it up against my best friends SGS 3 and my camera takes the most natural looking pics without all the saturation that seems to be some sort of trend among cellphone makers these days mainly IOS and ANDROID and dont even get me started about which one takes the better pic at night because my xenon flash blows away ALL phones that use AN LED OR DOUBLE LED!!enough said. CHECK PLEASE!!LOL!!

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 09:05 1

65. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)

OK I think you're getting me wrong, I'm comparing LED flashes, let's see you use that xenon flash as a torchlight.
So please, accept that Nokia cheated on their shootout, video, and pics ..
Also, I'm not saying that their phones aren't good, but, they cheated on their ads and stuff, which is wrong.
Not surprised though, Microsoft and Nokia have a history of cheating.

posted on 07 Sep 2012, 04:38

75. FAW-Q (Posts: 63; Member since: 29 Jul 2011)

Can't you Nerdroids get along?! Sheesh! Always arguing about stupid@ss sh!t!

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:51 13

20. MeoCao (unregistered)

This not an isolated incident, Nokia has a track record of exaggeration for quite some time now. Everybody still remembers what Nokia said and did with Lumia 900.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:41 4

40. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)

Nokia is in a state of desperation,they've jumped aboard a ship which was half submerged even before they got onboard and is doomed. Wp sales are disasterous and while other manufacturers make their sales and innovations in other fields like android Nokia is chained to Microsoft. When the lamia 800 launched we had exaggerated sales expectations given to us from Nokia reps, despite their claims only a hand full sold

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:19 4

31. dr_fajardo12 (Posts: 118; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)

im a nokia fan and i need to say that is fake. if the cellphone needs to flash before take the picture in low light, how in hell behind the girl is so shiny?.
nokia didnt have time to put more MP in lumia 920 (8.7? common), neither to finish the phone.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:34

36. MeoCao (unregistered)

Nokia may have used the software to achieve some improvement, but I guess the result is not this good.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 07:32 4

49. Yositokotukukita (Posts: 5; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)

Not saying that it was taken with the Nokia, but I use a Nikon DSLR and when I take night portraits it uses flash to freeze the subject and uses slow shutter speed to get lots of light from the background, and so giving such type of effect... But then it needs a strong flash to do so and I'm not sure that this mobile has what it takes in that department.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 08:38

59. dr_fajardo12 (Posts: 118; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)

thats my point, thanks

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 07:30 7

47. imsickwithphone (banned) (Posts: 76; Member since: 17 May 2012)


posted on 06 Sep 2012, 08:23 5

56. SleepingOz (unregistered)

TOTALLY! Trying to deceive customers is PATHETIC!
No wonder, their market share dropped drastically.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:19 23

2. Veigald (Posts: 290; Member since: 13 Jan 2012)

Nokia should get the phones out to the blogs for reviews ASAP to settle this.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 08:57 5

63. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)

nokia FTW
and F stands for FAKE

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:20 18

3. bbblader (Posts: 590; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)

dumbass elop making nokia desperate

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 09:00

64. joey_sfb (Posts: 6624; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

I suspect he may be Nokia leak. Get Nokia desperate enough to sell all their patent IP to Microsoft for a song.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:21 7

4. MENillli (Posts: 3; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)

This is what you get from a biased fandroid webpage

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 09:12 1

66. joey_sfb (Posts: 6624; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

Fandroid come from somewhere before android and most are Nokia supporter.

Nokia have been having a string of bad luck ever since Elop take over as CEO, one could only wonder is that purely coincidental.

Anyway, hope Nokia and Lumia do well for the coming months.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:21 2

5. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:24 10

7. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:26 8

8. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)

Against, Nokia showing that their years have past, go Android and you'll see real innovation

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:35 4

38. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

well seeing as Nokia have made more innovative phones i think we need Nokia in the industry especially for camera tech.

look at the Nokia 808 pureview no denying its the best camera phone out there

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:28 4

9. amehtab (Posts: 8; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)

Actually the camera function is demonstrated in real time after the event in hands on videos ... you can watch them on youtube easily ...
I am seriously impressed by what nokia introduced !! i like to have innovatinve gadgets no matter it is apple some android or the WP ..and right now WP8 loks pretty good , great design , the 0 lag functioning of the OS and Touch is Awesome !!

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:29 5

10. haneef4u (Posts: 36; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)

really dont know whats the problem with phonearena....! you just wana bash nokia for anything...agreed they faked the video for showing the video stabilization mode...thats marketing...do we get to eat the same what we see in McDonald's.. there nothing from Nokia..they just wana showcase the 'effect' of OIS mode...and i m happy with the product..kudos to Nokia design team..

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:33 3

12. MENillli (Posts: 3; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)

Typical Phone Arena hate posts towards non android phones

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:56 6

43. Adithya7184 (Posts: 320; Member since: 05 Mar 2011)

ha ha ha ....all the nokia fans are pissed off with this news..i feel sorry for all nokia fans....lolssssss

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