Big news: Moto Z is the first major phone with NO 3.5mm headphone jack

It's happening: the headphone jack is going the way of the dodo.

The Moto Z and Moto Z Force are the first phones from a major brand that ditch the 3.5mm headset jack and will instead supports headphones that connect either wirelessly via Bluetooth, or via the USB-C port (in the latter case, meaning that you cannot simultaneously charge your phone and listen to music).

Shocking, right? Especially given the face that Lenovo made no official mention of this important change and also for the reason that all the rumors about such a radical move centered around Apple, so nobody foresaw somebody else doing it first.

Well, Lenovo obviously had the guts.

Don't panic, though: to make the transition smoother, Lenovo is including an adapter from USB-C to 3.5mm interface that will allow you to still use your old headphones.

We don't yet know, however, whether the Moto Z and Moto Z force will have a set of some basic headphones in the box.

What do you think about this radical move? Is it a big deal for you? Does an adapter make this a non-issue? Have a say in the comments below.



1. disatrousrainbow

Posts: 65; Member since: Oct 24, 2015

Not a big deal to me. I use Bluetooth headphones all the time and that's where things are heading anyway...

19. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Someone had to move it to a new standard and I would rather this phone be the one to do it than Apple with their lightning BS. At least with this, other manufacturers can fully jump to USB-C as the universal standard for all things tech since someone has already taken the plunge.

62. Desponent

Posts: 8; Member since: Jun 09, 2016

You can have USB-C and 3.5mm jack together. In fact, other phone makers are doing it just fine.

63. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

But that is redundant and a waste. Why not have two USB-C ports instead which would take less space as well. This analog method will have to change in the future anyway and it is better if a standard is adopted inline with all other electronics instead of someone like Apple pushing lightning.

65. Desponent

Posts: 8; Member since: Jun 09, 2016

Who decides that? There are use cases for it, and if there are enough people with those use cases, do you blame them for not following what those suits decreed their sheep? "A waste" is only from the companies point of view (since they need to implement 3.5mm jack in the R&D and manufacture), most consumers rightly only see that a phone that's priced higher has less features than many other cheaper phones. The decision is easy.

80. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

USB Type C isn't even common enough yet and still brings more concern to Android devices than benefits ( ). Removing a common standard in an attempt to force a new standard may be better than forcing proprietary BS, but it still isn't the ideal way to go, and forcing a not-ready-for-prime-time standard just makes things worse. The timing isn't right yet... If a headphone jack Mod (with a DAC and perhaps added battery) comes in the box, that will be the perfect combination of moving forward and appealing to the masses. Not demanding everyone to pay extra for stuff that comes standard with even low-end phones.

38. des9301

Posts: 15; Member since: Mar 17, 2016

I agree completely. We already have 2 manufacturers ditching the standard, and soon to be three. I bet if we really need it, then they will release a cheap Moto Mod that includes one, along with an adapter for USB C. USB C is just as good at the 3.5mm headphone jack anyway. Even if they included it, there would have to be different mods for the moto z because it's so thin and would have a buldge on the rear as it's so thin.

2. kanagadeepan

Posts: 1260; Member since: Jan 24, 2012

Why don't you give 3.5mm jack in Z Force at least, dear Moto??

3. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

OMG i wanted this phone so bad. Now no deal sorry moto bad move!

66. TerryTerius unregistered

What will you do if/when the rest of the industry goes in this direction?

72. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

stick to S7edge for the rest of my life... or until some manufacturer make a good enough bluetooth headphone (with weeks of battery life), and make it work with phone's internal DAC

75. nithyakr

Posts: 161; Member since: Jun 20, 2014

Smartphone Manufacturers wanted to get rid of the internal DAC. so that they could fit in a bigger battery. I think that was one of the main reasons to opt out the 3.5mm jack. There is no point of having a DAC inside without a 3.5mm jack since USB-C or Lightening only transfers Digital signal. To use the internal DAC then we need an Analogue slot like 3.5mm jack. With the DAC made inside the headphone itself, the sound output would be much better since the headphone manufacturers will be able to select the best DAC that works with the drivers.

82. TerryTerius unregistered

That could literally be a decade from now before we make enough advancements in battery life for a headset to have anything close to that kind of promise. Eh. Like all change, we'll all get over it at some point.

4. BobLawblaw unregistered

The deal breaker for me is the fact that I can't listen to music and charge it at the same time. Often listen to tunes in bed while my phone charges.

6. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Agreed thats where i bug as well. But also for sound quality. My 400$ Senheiser headphone are at least 5 time better than any bluetooth one out there...

36. TypicalGeek

Posts: 214; Member since: Feb 19, 2015

What model is your $400 "Sennheiser"? Both my M50x, M50, and D5000 only sound marginally better than my Sony SBH80. I doubt your Sennheiser sounds at least 5 times better.

61. Desponent

Posts: 8; Member since: Jun 09, 2016

lol I'm not surprised. Perhaps try buying better cans next time.

70. Carlitos

Posts: 670; Member since: Oct 23, 2011

If more manufactures adopted native wireless charging like Samsung this wouldn't even be a problem

5. AlikMalix unregistered

watch how it will be a good idea all of a sudden and Apple is copying.

8. tedkord

Posts: 17365; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Your comment is funny when read after the comments above yours. At least you're consistently wrong.

9. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Humm you need to look at the other ppl posting.. we are not happy and its not a good idea AT ALL!

11. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Of course, it is using the USB-C standard and not some piece of garbage like lightning. It was always a good idea if it used an industry standard instead of proprietary backwards tech like lightning. I think you Apple fans should be aware of the fact that it isn't what you do but how you do it that really matters. It seems Apple is now the one implementing every good idea badly while everyone else has become what Apple was known for, good implementation.

34. AlikMalix unregistered

There you go...!!! - this is what my post is about... It's ok to do as long as it's not Apple. - you guys were complaining that you would be unable to charge and listen at the same time! But now it's ok, because it uses the usb-c port? How are you gonna use it and charge the phone, huh? Wow, the double standard is strong with these guys.

40. XperiaFanZone

Posts: 2277; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

*spends an entire hour refreshing the page waiting for a post not against the 3.5 mm port removal, finds one*.... "YOU HYPOCRITES IT'S NOT OK FOR APPLE TO DO THIS BUT WHEN OTHERS DO IT 'S OK, THIS IS DOUBLE STANDARDS!!!"

45. Scott93274

Posts: 6038; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

..... LOL, now I want to find the last article about Apple maybe doing away with the headphone jack and see what I posted.

48. Scott93274

Posts: 6038; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

..... and after searching for a bit, I don't think I've ever posted on the subject before now. Meh...

41. rick_mobile

Posts: 358; Member since: Dec 13, 2010

reality distortion field is strong with this one^^^. It astonishes me how weak the human psyche is.. Alik you need a lot of sleep. Let your brain clear the toxins that impede it to think clearly.

43. AlikMalix unregistered

I know you all thinking it, but because you already chanted that it's horrible because: Apple. Now you gotta keep face. You guys do know everyone is moving that way. Are you gonna boycott all smartphones? No, ofcourse not - in two years it will be: well android was working on it too, Apple just rushed to be first. Oops can't even say that anymore - moto rushed to be first, wait no, moto innovated and Apple copied, am I right? I've seen This before with Touch screen, fingerprint readers, 64bit. Yes there's always some Chinese company that gets some product out - but rumors about Apple products are the ones remembered and rediculed. You guys seen my posts: wireless is the next standard - not ports however they're redesigned.

46. rick_mobile

Posts: 358; Member since: Dec 13, 2010

There is no need to remove the jack unless batteries improve. No matter what manufacturer/company. This is just a stupid trend to make phones thinner and for companies to give a false sense of "innovation". I have sennheiser headphones that sound like a dream and I do NOT need to charge them, EVER. if you wanna go to Bluetooth or proprietary with the current battery systems we have, then it is definitely not worth it. Bad move from moto. They should have at least given both options of 3.5 and type-C jack on the Force version.. to heal people with the transition.

49. AlikMalix unregistered

See, we can have a decent conversation, Rick. But remember my posts when everyone will be just fine with removing "Jack" in couple years - but it was forerunners that got all the redicule. Wireless technology will improve and will improve faster when the Jack is gone. You'll see.

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