Apple sued for slowing down iPhones with older batteries


Apple is getting sued for "purposefully slowing down older iPhone models when new models come out". A lawsuit was filed today in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California by Los Angeles residents Stefan Bogdanovich and Dakota Speas. 

The plaintiffs claim that Cupertino's decision to implement power management features that can affect the performance of an iPhone presents a breach of contract, as Apple has failed to properly inform the user or obtain consent prior to making these changes. Here's what the filing reads:


The claim that the slowdown happens a result of "new models coming out" is rather speculative, as it became clear that the measures were taken to prevent shutdowns which could occur when a deteriorated battery cannot supply enough power to the processor.

The two plaintiffs (and the law firm that represents them) are also seeking California and nationwide class action certification, which would include all persons residing in the US who have owned any iPhone models older than the iPhone 8, 8 Plus, and iPhone X. That's a lot of people. 

As you've probably heard, these developments are a direct result of Apple's admission of slowing down iPhones with older batteries in certain situations in order to prevent more serious issues like unexpected shutdowns. These measures were taken in January 2017, when Apple released an iOS update which addressed an issue with unexpected iPhone shut-downs after many user reports and complaints. 

At the time, no one asked about Apple's approach to fixing the issue and the company hushed it up until a recent user investigation on Reddit and a subsequent confirmation from benchmarks provoked an official response.

While deteriorating batteries is an issue akin to any phone of the past and present, Apple's failure to properly inform the user about the measures it took is what leaves so many disappointed. If it was common knowledge that a battery replacement was all that's needed to get your iPhone running faster, a lot of people would have probably stuck with their older model instead of replacing it with a new one. Hopefully, we'll see more transparency from Apple after the dust from "Throttlinggate" settles.

source: TMZ via MacRumors

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85 Comments

1. T12RYK

Posts: 849; Member since: Jun 10, 2011

Crappy move on Apple's part!

9. Peacetoall unregistered

MXYBATMITE criticizing apple strange!

37. maherk

Posts: 6770; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

Calm your tits, this isn't Mxy.

40. Peacetoall unregistered

maybe

78. aegislash

Posts: 1476; Member since: Jan 27, 2015

It clearly isn't Mxy, because T12RYK doesn't troll BlackBerry articles. Soon as Mxy would make a new account, he was easily recognizable because he'd immediately start attacking user meanestgenius and troll the hell out of all things Blackberry-related. Anyone who knows of Mxy's reputation as well as us would know this.

85. T12RYK

Posts: 849; Member since: Jun 10, 2011

Thank you! I've never even heard of this Mxy guy.

44. bucknassty

Posts: 1325; Member since: Mar 24, 2017

Remember when fast charging started popping up... and sheeple said it would just degrade a battery faster... i wonder why in less than a year their 'safe' slow charge is deteriorating batteries to the point that a software fix in required for the phone to physically stay on.... You know what it is Iphonearena... call Apple out... not many people were interested in the 8 aka 7s and the X is nice but with too many drawbacks aka price (and repair for that matter)... Sales are not that great and you know it, has there ever been buy one get one free deals on the brand new iphone right after it came for the past 10 years? NO... quit playing yourselves apple has ya'll like puppets and it's sad the iphone 7 is a great phone, this year they just couldn't bring it besides that A11 chip... they will have something next year. and mark my words articles in 6 months will be talking about how apple messed up the end of 2017

56. makatijules

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

In Qualcomm FAQ, they specifically said, batteries that are designed to be fasted charged are not damaged by fast charging. If you use a fast charger on a non-supported phone, the battery may charge a little faster than normal, but not enough to damage it. Apple fans just used that has an excuase5out of hatred an jealousy, because Apple is so behind everyone else. Just like they hated OLED displays, even though they have looked awesome for years on Samsung phones. Now they love them. They hated overestimated photos. Now Samsung is more natural and Apple is kversathrsted, they swear it's awesome.

19. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

I can't believe people are even defending Apple Its unexcusable that ~1 year old phones are having shut down issues due to battery degredation Apple should have repaired or replaced their 6S instead of hiding the problem Google even upgraded 6P users to the Pixel XL because of the same issue

57. makatijules

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

Android OEM's with the exception of Motorola are always class to their customers.

77. Mr.Pussy

Posts: 348; Member since: Feb 16, 2017

Apple + greedy + brainwashed ifans = $$$$. Thats how Apple become rich.

2. tonyv13

Posts: 113; Member since: Jun 07, 2015

Lol seems like now you can sue for anything.

6. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

You'll be sued for saying that out loud.

13. T12RYK

Posts: 849; Member since: Jun 10, 2011

And you'll be sued for saying THAT out loud!

52. sissy246

Posts: 7070; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

So you think this ok, damn

58. makatijules

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

Misrepresentation of a product is grounds for a lawsuit. Look it up!

3. redmd

Posts: 1926; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

Maybe because Apple wants consumers to buy the newer faster iPhones instead of consumers hanging on to their present phones. Previously IOS users take pride of their 1 or 2 year old iphones still as fast as new ones. That ain't happening anymore.

59. makatijules

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

It's not gonna stop them from buying.

4. KillerKeyboard

Posts: 372; Member since: Nov 21, 2013

I demand a brand spanking new iPhone X in exchange for my old 5S! :D

5. MaryPoopins

Posts: 324; Member since: Jan 15, 2015

I'll bash Apple as much as the next man, but this seems like the first time they might actually be in serious trouble. Ok, we know they said that they 'have to reduce the clock speed to prevent shutdowns from not getting enough power' To which my next question is... "You purposefully designed a device that would struggle to meet its own power requirements after 1-2 years?" Be interesting to see how this unfolds.

7. Ray.S

Posts: 456; Member since: Jul 19, 2011

Why would you think they "purposefully" designed it so? Each battery will deteriorate and lose capacity and health faster or slower, depending on how you care for it. In the general case, that's 2 years. 2 years with an industry-leading processor is not bad at all. Would you rather have a slower phone that remains just as slow after the second year?

8. Leo_MC

Posts: 7204; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

When I buy a device, I want it to have a lifespan of at least 2 years (as much as the warranty), working the same as the first day I bought it. If it has a bad design, I expect Apple to change the faulty part or my device on Apple's expense, not mine.

20. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

We should expect flagships to last at least 3 years, if not more This is the same issue the 6P faced Google replaced faulty 6Ps with refurbs 6Ps, then later with Pixel XLs Apple hid the faulty batteries by throttling the SoC

60. makatijules

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

IPhone is Apple flagship. But it isn't a flagship. You can't expect to have an iPhone be on par with real flagship. There are people now still using the OG Note, Note 2 and 3 and even the 4 with no issue. And yes maybe some do have new batteries. But I bet the vast majority of people with those phones are still on the original battery. I still have an S3 or S4. My comparison would not be fair, because the phones were only used for a year. But they still have their original batts. They run exactly the same as new. I have an iPhone 4, still has original battery, I don't use it often either. I used it for 2 years. I use it now as an iPod. It last right 4 hours before it dies and I only use BT. Other than that, it's always in airplane mode. But it is old and I don't expect much. It serves it purpose.

31. medtxa

Posts: 1655; Member since: Jun 02, 2014

You can't have 2 years old device that work exactly like it is work the first day, duh.

39. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

My Nexus 5 (bought in 2013, now used by my dad) still hasn't had enough battery degradation to cause stability issues and performance is still as good as day one Many new features have been added, the camera has been majorly imrpoved (to be fair, the camera was piss poor at release), the only downsides are: -Battery life has decreased, as expected with normal battery degradation over 4 years -And it can't keep as many apps in RAM as Marshmallow is slight more memory hungry than KitKat and apps tend to be more bloated these days

45. Leo_MC

Posts: 7204; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Yes, I can: my iPhone 5s is working just fine.

48. medtxa

Posts: 1655; Member since: Jun 02, 2014

Of course, but battery life? not so much.

50. Leo_MC

Posts: 7204; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

The differences are negligible.

61. makatijules

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

Sure you can. It just needs to be a high quality product.

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