More lawsuits against Apple over iPhone slowdowns, one demands $1 trillion

More lawsuits against Apple over iPhone slowdowns, one demands $1 trillion
Over the past month, thousands of iPhone users worldwide finally got a confirmation that they are, in fact, not insane — older iPhones do get slower with time and no, it's not just because new iOS versions are more demanding. The issue was found to be the degrading batteries and how Apple chose to handle them. Since Li-Ion cells have a limited lifetime and their capability to hold a full charge diminishes over a couple of years, Apple has set a safety mechanism in place — if a battery degrades below 80% of its capacity, the iPhone's hardware will get permanently throttled. That way, you get worse performance, but the same all-day battery life, with no random shutdowns.

While it does sound reasonable, many users were rightfully angered — Apple did not disclose this information until it got "caught", while a lot of people have been making the choice to upgrade their iPhone, irked by its slow operation. Instead, they could've spent a lot less on a new battery and have a device that works as a day 1 unit. Needless to say, class action lawsuits were filed.

The lawsuits are now up to 9, and there is one that asks for an exorbitant amount of money. Filed by one Violetta Mailyan and her team of lawyers, it demands $999,999,999,000 (almost $1 trillion) from Apple.

Aside from the insane amount of money asked, the lawsuit makes sense — it claims that iPhone users were "denied the use, utility, and value of the older iPhone model because of the slowdown of performance", that Apple deceived users by withholding that it's slowing down phones with older batteries, thus indirectly encouraging people to buy a new phone instead of repair the old one, and that there was no real way for a person to discover the slowdown was a purposeful act. All valid points, but will Ms. Mailyan manage to get $1 trillion for them?

source: Patently Apple via iMore

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72 Comments

1. imran86

Posts: 208; Member since: Sep 14, 2012

I will reward her the amount if I am the judge.

19. Venom

Posts: 3410; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Good thing you aren't a judge because you don't understand the law.

47. HTCOE

Posts: 650; Member since: Nov 20, 2011

What's the law?

67. LiveFaith

Posts: 456; Member since: Jul 04, 2015

That gigantic mass of information that no human, especially Venom, is physically capable of reading. Much less systematizing, understanding, and being able to use as a tool to judge between the actions of 2 parties.

49. cncrim

Posts: 1586; Member since: Aug 15, 2011

Not Apple fan, but i said good thing you are not a judge.

58. audibot

Posts: 601; Member since: Jan 26, 2017

NOT REALLY IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF THE CLASS ACTION HAS 100 MILLION THAT 10,000 A PERSON IF YOU HAD BEEN BUYING PHONES FOR 5 YEARS OR HAD MANY UNITS FOR A FAMILY THATS ABOUT RIGHT, JUST LIKE THE STUPID LADY THAT WON THE LAWSUIT AGAINST MCDONALDS WHEN SHE WAS DRIVING WITH THE FRESH COFFE BETWEEN HER LEGS SLIPPED IT BURNED HER SELF, SUID SAYING THE CUP DID NOT SAY CAUTION HOT. SHE CHANGED THE WORLD MAKING ALL HOT DRINKS REQUIRE A CAUTION HOT. COMMON SENSE WOULD SAY YOU JUST GOT A HOT DRINK DONT DRIVE WITH IT BETWEEN YOUR LEGS. JUDGES AND JURIES AWARD STUPID THINGS JUST LOOK AT ALL THE LAWSUITS APPLE HAS DONE ON SAMSUNG AND MANY OTHERS

59. kiko007

Posts: 7493; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

Bruh...

70. Ralph.

Posts: 249; Member since: Dec 20, 2017

It's true.

72. dimas

Posts: 3347; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

Dude, that all caps. Seems like you placed all your anger in one comment.

2. submar

Posts: 713; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

Fail of the year: Pixel 2 & iOS 11.

5. amasog

Posts: 552; Member since: Aug 22, 2013

remote controls of the year: s8+ & note 8

13. Ralph.

Posts: 249; Member since: Dec 20, 2017

Definitely Too long and tall narrow Fail and ugly 18.9 screens.

26. tedkord

Posts: 17312; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Butthurt of the year - amasog

31. Ralph.

Posts: 249; Member since: Dec 20, 2017

Samsung fanboy.

32. tedkord

Posts: 17312; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

And here's the runner up, who will fill in for amasog should be be unable to fulfill his duties.

34. sissy246

Posts: 7081; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

Not a remote control at all but hay, if you want to call it that good for you. At least my remote note 8 will be just as fast in a year as it is today.

61. AmashAziz

Posts: 2898; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

You think your note 8’s battery won’t degrade? It will. It’s just a matter of when. Samsung might also slow down your phone to prevent shutdowns. If it doesn’t your phone may also face random shutdowns. Or you might be right, it might not face them. Coz its processor is not as powerful as iPhones and might not suck up as much power. Atleast with the newer iphones, even throttling them by 50% would still make them as powerful as a SD 835 device. Not Apple’s fault batteries degrade overtime. It’s better to have a slower iPhone than one that shuts down at 40%.

62. tedkord

Posts: 17312; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

We might have a new champ.

66. AmashAziz

Posts: 2898; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

You ruined my debate :-(

68. LiveFaith

Posts: 456; Member since: Jul 04, 2015

Apple could have shoveled out a seething t_rd and some people would scoop it up immediately and testify to it's tastiness.

3. samgsam

Posts: 148; Member since: Mar 24, 2017

Nothing will happen to Apple because they have s**t loads of money by now and they can buy any judge.

14. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Apple should be ashamed I can't image the outrage if it were Google or Samsung who'd got caught instead 1. Should have clearly notified users (no the tiny comment in the update notes doesn't count. No average user reads those, even the ones that did didn't realise since it wasn't clear. Should have been a proper notification and a message in the battery section of settings) 2. So users still in warrenty can have battery replaced. And users out of warrenty can replaced instead of buying a whole new iPhone 3. Give users option to disable the throttling (there's users with over 95% capacity who are still have majorly reduced performance) 4. Shouldn't have cheaped out on battery quality. The iPhone batteries are designed to degrade to around 80% in 1.5 years, while most other batteries take 3 years (e.g. iPads and Apple Watch) 5. Should have at least used bigger batteries to accommodate their rapid degradation so that they can go over 3 years before stability issues

21. Macready

Posts: 1817; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

In fact, according to Geekbench stats, one out of 7 iPhones 7 already passed that 80% threshold within the year to end up with severe throttling after the iOS 11.2 update. That's pretty crazy for such high end prices and thus performance expectations.

41. Settings

Posts: 2943; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

But money can't buy reputation.

4. slim3bdo

Posts: 173; Member since: Jun 05, 2017

How does it sound reasonable Paul ??!!! If the device can have both the performance and longevity by just replacing the battery , while apple turn down ppl who want to change their battery saying after their " battery test " it's fine , even if you insist to replace it . And in the meanwhile they cripple your phone without you knowing about it , forcing you to buy a new iPhone . They could easily notify users that their battery is bad , and you can toggle power saving mode that will reduce performance and will stop unexpected shut downs and the device will last to the end of the day . To brag about their SoC and it's monsterous power , yet to have it crippled in 1year to the power of a snail kindy funny . iPhone users should just comment to not buying the next iPhone until apple fix it s**t .

51. cncrim

Posts: 1586; Member since: Aug 15, 2011

Yeap, i had a 6s last year sent in for repair suddenly shutoff at 25-30%. Apple send it right back without fix anything, it could be there more than just battery issue. It could be the CPU itself Apple design at flaw and replace all iPhone has this issue could cost them fortune. On top of that, their reputation at stake, well either way it at stake now.

6. FlySheikh

Posts: 444; Member since: Oct 02, 2015

What a joke this has become

7. dprxsv

Posts: 1; Member since: Dec 27, 2017

It's not an issue, it's a feature (#sarcasm)

8. CreeDiddy

Posts: 2147; Member since: Nov 04, 2011

The running joke....Known Battery Drain Gate....or Drain Gate

9. Peacetoall unregistered

So techie is demanding 1 trillion dollar from apple

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