Apple iPhone X suppliers report weak November shipments, and expect this month to be worse

9. NarutoKage14 (Posts: 1254; Member since: 31 Aug 2016)

Gotta admit that the excuse that people are waiting for next year's iPhone only about a month after the newest one launched is sad.

20. daniyal_05 (Posts: 93; Member since: 15 Nov 2017)

I thinkit is because not many people bought iphoneX
Clearly the demand was overhyped

40. Khyron (Posts: 387; Member since: 28 Sep 2015)

You mean an ibubble!

41. sgodsell (Posts: 6525; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)

That is Apple for you. The hype and propaganda company. What was Apple expecting, especially when they forced the users who purchased an iPhone X to use FaceID, and that is your only option. They dropped the finger print scanner completely (TouchID). Even other smartphone OEMs will add other hardware options to their existing options or features. Like keep the finger print scanner, even if it means placing it on the back of the smartphone. Then add FaceID as well. More options means more users. But clearly Apple doesn't think this way.

I bet you if Apple did a poll and asked their existing and new customers looking to buy an iPhone X. I bet you over 90% of them would say that they would love to have TouchID as well as FaceID. The thing is the physical TouchID most likely would only cost Apple around $20 or less, and that would include the patent fees as well. Apple forcing it's users to use one new option is one thing, but you also have to use new gesture controls as well. It would be in Apples best interest to add back TouchID as well as FaceID. Similar to Samsung with their S8's or Note 8, or other smartphones.

39. worldpeace (Posts: 2957; Member since: 15 Apr 2016)

Same thing happen when Apple launch iPhone7 and iPhone7s, rumor about new design for next iteration come up, and render released shorly after that.
I think it's just to keep investors and stock holders from running away :v

27. Phonehex (Posts: 678; Member since: 16 Feb 2016)

Actually , a lot of people around me who bought the phones aren't too happy with it. Most of the time i keep hearing the lack of the home button and lack of touch id to the most annoying thing. My wife who was using the 7 Plus , got the X and now is using the iPhone 8 and not the 8 plus because of the weight being an issue for her for the 8 Plus. I tried using the X , i personally liked it but switched back to my Note 8 after about a week or so. There is to much missing in iOS for my liking. Most people around me use the iPhone , but the X is just an experiment.. which frankly has worked so far looking at the numbers. Waiting for the iPhone Xs or the X plus next year. Hopefully will fix the touch id part and please get rid of that obnoxious "NOTCH". It annoys me a lot.

5. Wickedsamaritan (Posts: 72; Member since: 11 Aug 2017)

I was just about to call him out, kiko007 remember when I said you weren't James bond 007?.. are you Dead and Gone ?

8. kiko007 (Posts: 7367; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)

Sigh, you people never cease to amaze me with your jubilation at such articles. Apple LITERALLY has this exact issue arise every year. PA reports on it, you all get ecstatic, then quarterly reports roll around. Needless to say, all of that bravado quickly retreats in favor of baseless speculation, like clockwork.

12. Panzer (Posts: 266; Member since: 13 May 2016)

Here is problem with your statement. The 6S was for sale and in full production for three and half months before it's production was cut. The X has been on sale for a month and production was cut. And the 6S did not sell in the wild numbers like the 6. Is Apple doomed, no but it obviously was not a huge hit like people have been saying.

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/01/05/apple-cutting-iphone-6s-production/

13. kiko007 (Posts: 7367; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)

Like I said, we'll see once quarterly reports roll out.

15. Panzer (Posts: 266; Member since: 13 May 2016)

We shall and if it some wild high number comes out then we can confirm Apple was lying about the shortage. Either way Apple will look stupid.

19. TheOracle1 (Posts: 1684; Member since: 04 May 2015)

I don't know what the numbers truly signify, but the fact is that there are more and more cheaper and excellent phones available these days that are eating into iPhone sales. US sales will always remain strong but in Europe it's becoming a battle especially with Huawei joining the top two there. Apple are becoming also rans in China, India and most of Asia, so where else are the sales going to come from at those extortionate prices?

22. kiko007 (Posts: 7367; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)

You're arguing two distinctly different things.

42. TheOracle1 (Posts: 1684; Member since: 04 May 2015)

What two different things? Lower sales mean lower component orders. Those lower sales are as a result of more competition in markets outside the US. Vivo/Oppo, Huawei and Xiaomi have become legitimate rivals to Apple and Samsung and dominate China and India whilst making major gains in Europe.

25. tedkord (Posts: 16886; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Actually, we won't, since Apple only reports aggregate sales of all iPhones, and doesn't break them down. But, since they didn't announce any opening weekend numbers (unless I missed them, which is very possible), then we can assume it's not breaking any records.

51. sgodsell (Posts: 6525; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)

Yeah the quarterly reports from Apple never break out the models. The other thing to remember is Apple is still manufacturer and selling iPhone 6 models with 32 GB of storage instead of the original 16 GB of storage. Apple is on borrowed time, especially when they are the only OEM right now that is selling a 2014 iPhone as new in 2017. They are still selling all their iPhone 6 variants (6,6s,7,8) in 2017/2018. Not to mention all the deals even for their latest iPhone 8. Like buy an iPhone 8 and get a $250 gift card. Buy an iPhone 7 get another iPhone 7 free. Buy an iPhone 6 get a free kid. I have never seen so many BOGO deals in my life for iPhones. Just a couple a years ago, their loyal users like kiko007, piyath, cnour and many others would see a BOGO deal for any Android smartphone they would always say "see those Android smartphones are not selling so they are giving them away any way they can". Yet here we are at the end of 2017, and they are giving and packing deals to sell as many iPhones as they can, including give away free iPhones with the purchase of another iPhone, or give you gift cards with really large amounts. If those new iPhone 8's are selling so we'll, then there is no need to give a $250 gift card on a two month old smartphone.

29. maherk (Posts: 6414; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)

Apple doesn't breakdown which iPhone sold the most, they just give the total number of all the iPhones sold by Apple atm, which includes 2 year old iPhones.

It's like Samsung coming out and saying they sold 80 something million phones, and there fanboys went around bragging and claiming Samsung sold 80 something million Note 8.

36. kiko007 (Posts: 7367; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)

Except we know which Samsung phones make up that quarterly 80 mill by evaluating their ASP. The same can be done for Apple, but to a far lesser degree seeing as how all their models are priced relatively close to one another. The point was that the natural reaction to this article SHOULD be one of little importance, considering who we're talking about.

52. sgodsell (Posts: 6525; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)

You see constant sales on right now for iPhones all the way back to the original iPhone 6. Remember Apple made a newer version of the iPhone 6 with 32 GB of storage in 2017. Bestbuy has some BOGO deals on right now. Buy an iPhone 6, 6s, or 7 and get a free iPhone 6, 6s, or 7. So clearly buying just one iPhone, is clearly buying two, yet you only paid for one iPhone. I don't see a lot of deals like that for Android smartphones. Plus I don't see Samsung or others trying to sell or push or remanufacture an older smartphone and pawn it off as new again. Like Apple did with their iPhone 6 in 2017. Just in case that isn't computing with your brain kiko007, that is a 4 year old iPhone model recycled again in 2017.

54. DnB925Art (Posts: 1163; Member since: 23 May 2013)

Don't forget the SE, still on sale and can be had as low as $99 for the 32GB model (through Cricket when opening a new line).

57. deleon629 (Posts: 418; Member since: 04 Oct 2014)

Those iPhone deals are ONLY gaining momentum now because Samsung was busy doing these same deals with their major domestic carriers AND on their websites. They'd also thrown in a great deal of trade-in credit options, and even extras like wireless chargers, 360 cameras, and many other items.

T-Mobile took things to the net level and made the Note 8 the exact same price as the S8+, so it's safe to say that people aren't making a big deal about what Samsung's doing, because they most likely already have a Samsung phone...or two...and like them..lol

61. cmdacos (Posts: 3618; Member since: 01 Nov 2016)

In Canada you can get anywhere from an ip6 to an iPhone eks for 0 down through the carriers. The eks seems very early to already be at 0 down for a month old iPhone.

10. kiko007 (Posts: 7367; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)

A Note fan chastising iPhone sales... the irony.

18. sissy246 (Posts: 6672; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)

Pot calling the kettle black

21. kiko007 (Posts: 7367; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)

I complain about how well the Note is selling ? Hardly...