Apple and Samsung in 'advanced talks' to adopt the new e-SIM card standard
posted by Daniel P. / Jul 17, 2015, 2:48 AM
phone makers' excitement - there will be more precious space saved inside their thin smartphones for other components. The carriers that are whispered to carry the e-SIM standard at launch are AT&T, Deutsche Telekom, Etisalat, Hutchison Whampoa, Orange, Telefónica and Vodafone.A standardised embedded SIM card would allow devices to switch carrier plans on a whim, and do away with pesky card slots, which somewhat explains the
Apple already has an electronic SIM in its latest iPads, though only T-Mobile and AT&T, as well as EE in the UK support it. A few years back, it had an advanced partnership with Gemalto, the largest SIM security provider, for embedding a Subscriber Identity Module in the next iPhone, but European carriers threatened to cut their subsidy for Apple's phones, so the idea was put on ice as too ahead of its time.
As for when will the e-SIM standard hit, the GSMA had the following to comment: “With the majority of operators on board, the plan is to finalise the technical architecture that will be used in the development of an end-to-end remote SIM solution for consumer devices, with delivery anticipated by 2016.”
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korea had something like this where there was no simcards and it was embedded into the phone. i think they changed it due to alot of people wanting sim cards.
posted on Jul 17, 2015, 2:58 AM 4
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I dont want carriers to come with pesky plans and lock the phone down... e-sim is like less control or no control over sim switching... it already take one week to port same sim from one carrier to another
posted on Jul 17, 2015, 3:03 AM 6
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Nice but should not be like CDMA phones.
posted on Jul 17, 2015, 3:17 AM 1
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Wow.. surprised Etisalat is part of the gang.. Nice
posted on Jul 17, 2015, 3:22 AM 1
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Well I'm not in to this what if i want to be disconnected i can't take an e SIM out it can be used for spying and how the hell someone can switch between carriers then should wait for them to do paper work?
posted on Jul 17, 2015, 4:47 AM 0
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I think there are lot of dumb comments here, e-sim is inevitable. With the use of nano sims now, there are no longer ways to reduce their size to save space whilst also increasing their memory. With the next gen network (5G), 256K sim might be required and that chip might not be able to function correctly on a nano sim. E-sim should pretty work the same way as normal sims. You will be able to load multiple numbers on the phone from different carriers, aka multiple sims. It will give you the freedom of being able to switch between carries in an instant.
posted on Jul 17, 2015, 7:00 AM 0
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Yeah but there's Actually no real SIM in the device so there is many things to consider and make it work for example it could be hacked easier. And nano SIM is only have less space no actual benefit other than that.
posted on Jul 17, 2015, 7:06 AM 0
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No sim card slot means easier dust and waterproofing. Wireless Charging and Bluetooth audio could mean completely Sealed phones. Nor any need to take out sim card and wipe the contacts to disperse the static.
posted on Jul 17, 2015, 10:14 AM 0
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But with a eSim can I switch between two devices cause I like using Android and Windows Phone/Mobile...
posted on Jul 17, 2015, 10:58 AM 0
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Device switching was my first concern when I saw this story. I always keep my old phone so that if my current phone fails all I have to do is pop the SIM card in the old one and I'm back in business. Maybe 5 minutes max. If the SIM card is baked in, I have to go to the local carrier store and wait around for them to make the switch over and do it all again with the new phone once I get it repaired or replaced. Lots of wasted hours and effort. Standardizing between carriers is a good idea for a host of reasons such as the plan shopping mentioned. Locking the SIM to the device is a terrible idea.
posted on Jul 18, 2015, 8:38 AM 1
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