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Analyst reconfirms Samsung might equip the Galaxy S IV with Snapdragon chipset

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Analyst reconfirms Samsung might equip the Galaxy S IV with Snapdragon chipset
Piper Jaffray analyst Gus Richard slipped a confirmation in a note to clients that Samsung might indeed have trouble outfitting the Galaxy S IV with its Exynos 5 Octa chip, and is considering a Qualcomm swap, as we've heard before.

When there's smoke, there's fire, and, frankly, with less than a month before the official announcement, we doubt Samsung will be changing course from whichever chipset it's picked for production, and all leaked benchmarks so far point to a Snapdragon-outfitted Galaxy S IV, or whatever Samsung's 2013 flagship gets named. Here's the analyst's quote:

We believe Samsung’s Galaxy S4 has slipped and the Galaxy S3 has been in production a quarter longer than expected. We believe the S4 is being delayed primarily due to power issues with the company’s eight-core Exynos Octa […] we believe the company is likely to shift more to external sources. We believe QCOM will pick up more of Samsung’s S4 business.

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posted on 22 Feb 2013, 02:23 1

1. tusshharish (Posts: 342; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)

but which 600 or 800????

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 02:28 1

3. mr.techdude (Posts: 571; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)

It has to be the 600 because 800 is made for larger devices such as laptops, computers and tablets

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 02:30 11

4. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

nobody said that 800 can't be used for smartphones. But 600 will be the most probable choice given that 800 is not yet on production.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 04:58

25. abdane (Posts: 494; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)

my question again, is the Snapdragon for the US version only or for all versions ?

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 02:34 5

7. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


"Not only will you see this Snapdragon 800 processor in mobile devices like smartphones and tablets, but it will be featured in computing and consumer electronic devices such as Smart TVs and digital media adapters."

But, the 800 isn't supposed to go into mass production until at least June, so it will be the 600 unless Samsung want's to wait until June/July to release their flagship, which they really shouldn't.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 03:01 2

12. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

In fact, snapdragon 800 should be even more frugal than the 600, on top of the big increase in power.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 03:36 2

17. darkskoliro (Posts: 1090; Member since: 07 May 2012)

"Overall Performance Boost—the Snapdragon 800 processor is expected to deliver up to 75% better performance than the Snapdragon S4 Pro"

Looks like im waiting a few more months :))

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 10:23 2

43. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1639; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

It does make you wonder if the Snapdragon 800 will find its way into the new Motorola X phone considering Qualcomm had a roadmap a while ago that suggested it knew about the next Android OS coming in May. Perhaps the Motorola X could be announced with the Snapdragon 800, with production and a release happening the following month.

However, I think the 600 will do very well for this device. You also have to remember that the rumors suggest the clock speed for the 600 in the SIV is 1.9Ghz instead of the 1.7Ghz of the HTC One. I’m not suggesting that is a reason to pick the SIV over the HTC One (considering I still don’t know enough about the SIV yet), but rather to point out there are some differences between the two devices.

However, my point is that as of right now we cannot sit here and say one device is better than the other until the actual device comes to fruition. I remember reading the comments on the HTC One rumors a month ago with people spouting off “HTC is dead” or “This will be a failure.” Please have some patience. Wait until we actually see the device before coming to such judgments.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 11:26

48. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3814; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)

Unless the Motorola X sees some serious delays, the 800 will not be used in it. Qualcomm has already stated that it will not be ready for production until Q3.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 14:01

52. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1639; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

I did say "could be". It is possible that they announce the phone in May and it be released in June or July. It's more of a dream than a reality. It also could possibly showcase an Exynos chipset for all we know.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 14:08

53. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1639; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

Also, we don't know when the X phone is suppose to be released. Some rumors have suggested a July release. Others suggest an announcement in May at Google's I/O event. So, really at this point there is nothing off the table.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 04:25 5

23. AamirSIII (banned) (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Oct 2012)

if its not 800, i will sue Samsung for playing with my emotions...

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 02:32 6

5. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

Probably the 600, considering the 800 isn't supposed to be out until at least June, and Samsung isn't going to wait 3 months after the unveiling to launch their flagship. However, it might have more than 2 GB of RAM; there was a leak a while ago with Samsung prototypes with 3 GB of RAM.

If the GS4 has the Snapdragon 600 and a mostly polycarbonate build, I'm going for the One. Maybe the new Touchwiz can make up for it, but I doubt it, Sense 5 is really appealing to me.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 07:10 2

34. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

im thinking of getting the One too bro, design, power, and beautiful ui sounds like a winner to me

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 07:21 4

35. buccob (Posts: 2732; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)

Well I think the winning formula for Samsung lately has been focusing on software.

First they built a nice enough device with the Galaxy S

Then they up the hardware game with the Galaxy SII
but Touchwiz skin was crap...

Then they put together what was a great all around package (not the best camera, but it was great... not the best screen but it was great, and so on.....) And focused on software so their skin now is one of the best out there.. Maybe not visually but it is very useful. Pop up apps, multi windowed apps... improvements over Android and leaving alone whats good about stock...

Now that I have a Sony I realize that they are behind in this aspect... (Sony skin is visually very appealing, but lacks productivity)... But I am confident that they are working on this too (Look Jellybean for Xperia T and Z... pop up small apps... caching on)

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 05:30

28. Jobayer (Posts: 167; Member since: 22 Feb 2013)

then it should have 4gb ram !!

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 02:27

2. tech2 (Posts: 3487; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)

bummer !!!!! -.-

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 05:02 1

26. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

How so? The SD 600 is spectacular and the Adreno 320 is still the best mobile GPU bar iPad 4, this is good for HW uniformity therefore developer focus therefore user experience. Personally I don't give a crap what's under the hood as long as it's fast and efficient, the latter being the red light for Samsung's own A15 quad.

Now the question is: expecting 100M units, did Samsung pressurize Qualcomm to get the SD 800 early or a custom made chipset? You see for Qualcomm this is a one-time opportunity not only to earn 5 times more than without Samsung, but to show off the Snapdragon potential and make Sammy think about dropping Project Octa entirely.

Business-wise, giving Samsung special treatment is the best thing a chip maker can do, and the benchmark clock speed shows something different to the One's and the G Pro's SD 600. I suspect a made-for-Samsung variant.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 11:25

47. tech2 (Posts: 3487; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)

hmmm.....u do have a strong point ! But what I think is, its not really about powerful chips anymore as it is highly likely one will not see a significant difference in speed from either of the chips. What I liked about the octa was their focus on saving battery.

A custom chipset is a possibility but altogether releasing SD 800 early is a bit of a long shot even if it involves impressing a client like Samsung. Because there would be strong reasons like manufacturing or R&D that needs to be perfected or ironed out before the mass production can be started.

But of course this is nothing but a speculation :/

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 02:32 6

6. nikenturd (unregistered)

If it doesn't offer something special like improved design and camera quality...then I might go for the HTC One....Otherwise its just another souped up S3...and puhleeeez....No more plastics for jeebus sakes...I can live with touchwiz since it can be easily replaced by another launcher....

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 02:35 2

8. tech2 (Posts: 3487; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)

Yeah now I am confused as well ! The thing is, looking at the track record HTC might be lacking in battery and updates (few years down the line).

Whereas Samsung's quality of materials used, Amoled screen and 5 inch screen (personally) works towards its disadvantages

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 03:06 6

14. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Dude.. the galaxy S4 will be at least as compact as the HTC one, despite of the 5'' screen diagonal.
HTC one has a large top and bottom bezel and is as big as some 5 inchers out there

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 18:04

55. MrJerry (Posts: 403; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


I rather have physical home button than to have big bottom bezel

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 02:36 4

9. jan25 (Posts: 470; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)

i think less diversity in the chipsets used in Android devices is good for the Android ecosystem.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 02:39 2

10. datsyuk (Posts: 180; Member since: 11 Jan 2012)

So bummed about this lol. I'd much rather have the PowerVR GPU versus the older Adreno 320 which has been out for quite some time now, even if the PowerVR isn't brand new it's still a better performer!

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 03:02 1

13. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

Even though the PowerVR SGX544MP3 would've been more powerful than the Adreno 320, the Adreno is still one beast of a GPU. Performance between the two would be negligible.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 03:11 1

16. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Actually adreno 320 is newer and more modern GPU.
The SGX 5xx series is based on old architecture.
It may have more raw computing power than first A320 iterations, but A320 can be easily improved.
Just wait and see first benchmark results, you may be in for a surprise

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 02:45 2

11. BadAssAbe (Posts: 465; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)

So i guess south Korea was right about 4 being a bad luck number.
Hopefully they add the new global LTE chip
Other then that snapdragon has no problems with me

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 03:10 6

15. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)

As long as the Exynos 5 Octa is in the Galaxy Note 3 then the BEST will be saved for last. Looks like i won't be purchasing the Galaxy S4 just for GP. I always purchase 2 devices a year in 2012 i had the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note 2. I don't want another jellybean device so looks like i might just purchase my first Motorola device since that 64gb version of the X phone will be out.

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 03:38 2

19. phil2n (Posts: 487; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

shortcut: you're saying you are rich, which i really don't care if how many devices you have.

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