All third party Snapchat apps, including 6snap, have been taken off the Windows Phone store

All third party Snapchat apps, including 6snap, have been taken off the Windows Phone store
Last month, reports circulated about security concerns over Snapchat, or, more specifically, third-party apps that served as alternatives to the native Snapchat app.

Snapchat had limits to what it was able to do apparently. In lieu of going after the third-party developers directly, the service went after its own users, providing warnings when the social messenger detected use of a non-native app.

The warning is followed up with a notice that user accounts will be locked if they do not stop using third-party apps. At issue is the fact that Snapchat does not have any official APIs for developers to use, hence the aforementioned security issues.

The problem is worse for users of Windows Phone is that there is no native Snapchat app available. Rudy Huyn, developer behind 6snap, the popular third party Snapchat app for that platform, sought to get an exemption from the crackdown.

The effort appears to be in vain however, as not only 6snap, but all third-party Snapchat apps have been removed from the Windows Phone store. It also appears that Snapchat has also carried out its intentions to lock user accounts associated with third-party app use.

One of Snapchat’s cornerstone features is the removal of messages and media in the app, pictures disappear automatically, as do chats. They are not stored for any appreciable length of time on Snapchat’s servers. Third-party applications using their own solutions to access the service in the wake of no APIs, create a problem out of Snapchat’s control.

There is no official word on Snapchat’s blog, but we can only surmise that it asked Microsoft to remove all the apps from the Windows Phone store. In the absence of a native app to take the other apps’ places, Snapchat users on Windows Phone are up the creek without a paddle.

source: Windows Central

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62 Comments

1. AfterShock

Posts: 4146; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

Everyone pulling out lately. Though this is on a different level, it is another feather gone from the wp cap. Getting grim.

37. Rager722

Posts: 597; Member since: Jan 30, 2013

"Everyone pulling out lately." That's what she said.

2. Planterz

Posts: 2120; Member since: Apr 30, 2012

Explain to me why people actually buy and own Windows Phones. OK, the cameras are great (in the flagships - crap on the budget models), but other than that, why?

4. VLaRueC

Posts: 189; Member since: Dec 18, 2012

You couldn't handle the reasons even if I told you...

6. Planterz

Posts: 2120; Member since: Apr 30, 2012

Do go on...

20. GalaxyS5

Posts: 430; Member since: Aug 05, 2014

lol what reasons?

32. sgodsell

Posts: 6653; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

His reasons are loyalty to Microsoft. That is why anyone still buys WP. It certainly isn't for the apps.

8. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

"Explain to me why people actually buy and own Windows Phones." Because, for the most part, they are cheap.

11. faptastic

Posts: 65; Member since: Aug 19, 2014

I doubt you are looking for an honest answer but whatever. I buy a Lumia because of the great camera, yes, but also because of the rock stable unbreakable OS. It being the most secure platform by a huge margin (not one security issue in the last 4 years! iOS has on average 5 per month, just read through their changelogs of updates, and yes I own an ipad). The unique hardware features like glance, sunlight readability, HAAC microphones, 3 or 4 microphones for noise cancelation and stunning audio quality (really, concert recordings are crazy good) clear black screen filter, polarized screen filter, mechanically stabilized lenses way before anyone else got them and at a much better price. Magnificent screens for their price. Incredible performance that doesn't drop after a while or after updates. Continuous support, even the first WP8 phone will get Windows 10. Unique apps like photobeamer, cinemagraph and many more. Great cloud integration and backup system. Extremely useful live tiles and with that an OS with a more integrated/solid look and feel. Dolby digital sound recording is nice too. Awesome touch screen sensitivity so I can use it with gloves on. Other devices have this too, but Lumia was first and has it on ALL of them. WP has awesome platform exclusive apps that I can't find anywhere else like WEAVE. WP is still open enough to have a file explorer for it, while not suffering from a lack of security because of that. The stunning call quality is nice to have too. Data sense, that shows me a list of open wifi spots in my area and connects automatically if I choose so. It also compresses web browsing data. And then there is the Rooms feature that really ties me to WP. Simply the best and most useful feature ever on a smartphone to me. And many more reasons for me personally. Like their build quality and looks. Unlike an iphone or samsung I don't have to worry if I accidentally drop the phone. I can go on for a bit longer, but you get the point. Well. Maybe not you but someone will.

14. faptastic

Posts: 65; Member since: Aug 19, 2014

Maybe fun to add that I really like Glance and that it's good I can move all apps completely to an sdcard. Something Android still can't do unfortunately. And kids corner is a very important feature for me as well.

23. Tsepz_GP

Posts: 1126; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

Cool story man, I hope for your sake someone sees this and buys a WP, otherwise what a waste. Note you haven't really made a convincing argument for WP many of the things you mentioned are either built-in to the competing OSs or available as apps, I'm shocked you didn't mention HERE Maps, oh no wait...

42. faptastic

Posts: 65; Member since: Aug 19, 2014

Why all the hate? Did a Lumia bully you in highschool?

24. Planterz

Posts: 2120; Member since: Apr 30, 2012

I was looking for an honest answer, faptastic, and thank you. Perhaps though, I should have asked specifically why anybody would prefer WP over Android or iOS. I'd rather have an iPhone over a Windows Phone, and I effing hate iOS and hate Apple even more, because at least with an iPhone I know I can get the apps I want and need. What does WP offer that I can't get on an Android?

41. faptastic

Posts: 65; Member since: Aug 19, 2014

Well, for me personally, it's not a competition between what Android can do that WP/iOS can't. Because Android can do almost everything you can imagine. The problem for me however is that on Android it's often a lot more work to do something and it's far less intuitive too. Like I can get live-tiles on Android, but it's not as smooth as on WP and it's a lot of work to get it right. I'm fine playing with my phone. Not fine with fixing random issues all day long. Anyway, there are some unique features to Lumia's/WP, see, it's hardware+software with Lumia's, pretty much like how iOS works only on an iphone because those are made for each other. WP is made for a broader range of devices, but still very limited, this gives you the advantage of iphones, that everything really works well on the hardware it's made for, while still being able to focus on all price points in a market like Android. Unique features that I personally like are the clear black filter on the screen, polarization and sunlight readability. I travel a lot and with strong sun and sunglasses on, I can work perfectly fine on my Lumia. Something I can't do on my ipad or any Android I've seen so far. The difference isn't small either, I would link an example image, just Google 'Lumia 1520 sunlight'. And remember this feature is available on the cheapest Lumia's too. (can't post links) Another thing is Rooms (I've not found a useful alternative on Android/iOS yet) and the kid's corner Rooms mainly to manage my household. Because I also use my Lumia for business, I like how it's VERY secure but still natively supports iCloud, Google and Outlook.com without any issues. I don't have the app problem really. So far anyway, I've been able to do anything I want. Maybe it's just me on that, but I can still stream my movies, music and pictures to my TV without needing extra hardware for example. With a Lumia 830 for example, I can get pretty much everything an iphone offers, for a third of it's price (ok with a lesser CPU). Here in Europe, that means the ability to go a 1yr plan, in stead of two and that for half the price of a plan with an iphone. And since marketshare of WP is much higher in Europe, there are far more localized apps for it. But you know, it's not just one feature. It's a day's work with the device that make me like it and keep coming back for more. Starting with glance, beautiful Bing backgrounds that automatically refresh without hassle, beautiful live tile background, a home screen that looks and feels alive, how smooth every transition in the OS and the apps are. The black background with the amoled screen and the simplicity with which you can use the device. The tricks behind the people hub and the brilliant keyboard that always responds quickly and so on and so on. I know this last part is a little vague. But the device just matches with how I feel like a device should work for me. Doesn't mean this is the case for others though.

50. NFSHesham

Posts: 297; Member since: Feb 04, 2014

There are not enough devices from Windows phone yet Lumia 830 was disappointing for me hardware wise "except the camera" Affordable flagships DON'T USE Snapdragon 400 Only midrange do so If I remember correctly the Lumia820 was powered by eexactly the same internals as the 920... So why the 830 isn't? The battery is SMALL Don't tell me how efficient the system is 2200 mAh in an "Affordable flagship" is small however you look at it Don't compare with iPhones I don't like them and don't know how people do after using it for quite some time The application store is still lacking but it is sufficient for me right now The achellis heel for Lumia 1320 was it's 5 mp camera : it 8is great for a 5 mp cam not so great for its price range

53. aleunge

Posts: 34; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

Android fanboys don't quite understand hardware specs since it really really mattered when not long ago, it's the only method to guarantee you your device would work somewhat smoothly. People had the same issue when Macs were on PowerPC. Snapdragon whatever-hundred doesn't matter when (you guessed it) an OS is optimized. Think how awesome things fly in iOS if you have never handled a WP device on Snapdragon 200. That's right. SD200 and it looks like an Android on SD400+. For battery life, you really ought to feed your mind and read some. The HTC One M8 gives something like 80% more on WP than on Android with the same hardware. Even at 50%, 2200mAh is more than 3000mAh on an Android. Similarly, Mac OS, Blackberries, iOS, Windows 8.1/10 don't all go by Android battery usage rules. If it sucks on Android, it doesn't have to on everything else.

57. faptastic

Posts: 65; Member since: Aug 19, 2014

I see where you're coming from, but the if you combined the negatives you just wrote down you'll see why they did what they did. To explain that: The 830 is underpowered and has a (for high-end device) small battery. But since the CPU is so efficient with it's power, the battery lasts a LOT longer than you would expect, meaning this thing lasts longer than most high-end devices. Try it, you'll be surprised how the battery lasts longer than almost all high-end devices. Power usage and battery is comparable to the Lumia 720. That thing could last almost forever on the battery. Don't forget that Windows Phone is pretty good when it comes to battery use too. There's no background drain like what you see on Android a lot. About the SOC, we're talking about a Lumia here. There's more that makes a smartphone than just a SOC and if you see how good the Lumia 830 can perform on the little Snapdragon 400 you'll understand the choice more. What you do get is a quite capable 10mp stabilized/OIS BSI camera. You won't find those on competing devices unless you go almost double the price of the 830. Remember, iphone 6 doesn't have it, you need the over 1000usd iphone 6+ for that and the same applies to Android, although with a smaller price difference of about 200-300USD (based on European prices). The camera can go toe to toe with the best of them. It also keeps the PureView branding with all the fancy Zeiss lenses and tech behind it. You also get the HAAC mics, dolby digital recording, all the screen tech that Microsoft/Nokia has (besides sensitive touch, no other device has that stuff). You get quite a good ips LCD screen. You get all the other bells and whistles that you used to have to buy a high-end Lumia for. The device is really thin too, has that beautiful curved screen (another high-end feature usually), gets a little more storage and SD capabilities and all you miss out on is the soc, but that pays itself back in a lighter, cooler device that lasts quite a lot longer on the battery. even though it's a small battery. And because it's WP, the performance and smoothness is still Really good. WP doesn't have memory issues, slowdowns, nothing of the sorts and remains snappy, whatever you ask of it. You also get international 4G on it and all the software tricks that the high-end devices get too. Not to forget a pretty much guaranteed Windows 10 upgrade in fall of next year. Let's not forget WP is much better optimized for multi-threading. In part because of the Windows 8.1 kernel. This Really shows with the Snapdragon 400. While I personally won't get an 830, as I too think it's a little missing the point, I do understand the reasoning behind it and why it could be a great device for some people. Anyway, the 1330 will most likely get a Snapdragon 400 too (as WP is very well optimized for it now) and a 14mp PureView camera.

44. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

How many apps do you use that aren't replaceable from the browser, other than games? I know for myself that I use mostly Internet Explorer and Cortana, and a few utility apps here and there (level meter, weather, and the HERE suite, etc.).

47. faptastic

Posts: 65; Member since: Aug 19, 2014

Snapchat ;) Funny note on this though is that 6snap was actually more secure than the native Snapchat app on iOS and Android. On both iOS and Android you can to this day still access the temporary received Snapchats folder and decrypt the files there using a very easily obtainable tool. On Windows Phone this was impossible and 6snap also found a way to disable screenshots. Hence making it the most 'secure' platform for Snapchat at the moment. Or well, before 6snap got removed. Somehow also a little of an embarrassing situation for Snapchat. When a third party developer creates a more secure app than the original.

54. aleunge

Posts: 34; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

Haha. Look at you, Planterz. Pretending to want an honest answer. Folks, read further below to see Planterz act the fanboy and bash like a 10 year old. It's rather amusing. "So awesome that hugely popular apps available on Android and iOS aren't available on WP? That's f ing awesome! Let me waste my money on a hunk of crap right now!" I was going to pull more quotes from below, but there are just too many. Who's got time for that...

17. aleunge

Posts: 34; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

Why are the idiots always the ones hating the most? If I prefer WP or even a featured phone, I could ask you the same question why people buy your type of phone (whatever gold piece of god given magic unicorn s**t perfect phone it is) and nothing can convince me or even make your type of sense to me. I actually like sending smoke signals so all y'all complicated unnatural robots will takeover god haters using these "phones" of yours are mega crap. Anyone that bashes other OSes/systems in general are tech idiots that only know one system... If you actually know anything, you would know any phone OS has pros and cons that each system can learn from, especially these underdogs like WP, blackberries, and dead meego OSes that try harder than lazy I'll just tweak my ugly UI that changes every f ing time android and same every f ing time IOS.

25. Planterz

Posts: 2120; Member since: Apr 30, 2012

I'm trying hard to understand your gibberish, and I'll attempt to respond to whatever the eff it is you're trying to say. I could probably get by with using WP. But I'll hate it. I'll hate what I can't do with it, and I'll hate trying to do what I can do with it. The UI is clunky and tedious. I also don't like the way it looks, but that's a personal preference. iPhone and Windows Phones are smartphones, but with an Android - the right Android, and the proper knowledge - is a pocket computer. Which is why I love Android and my aging Nexus 4. Of course, I realize most people aren't "power users" (I hate that term) like me, but that's part of my point. Even disregarding root, custom ROMs, kernels, and recovery, I can't see a reason to choose Windows Phone over Android or iOS, especially for a "casual" user. The interface sucks, and app availability is severely limited. The former is opinion, but the latter is irrefutable fact. Why would anybody choose WP when there's a substantial chance that their bank doesn't have an app available (but does for Android and iOS)? When a game - IF a game - comes to WP, it comes several months after Android and iOS. Often, when apps are finally available for WP, they're missing features that are on the other OS's. If you think I'm blindly hating Windows Phone, then you're wrong. I WANT Windows Phone to succeed. BlackBerry too. I have high hopes for Sailfish and Firefox as well. I want them to be an operating system that people want on their phones. Why? Competition. Competition breeds innovation. Apple wouldn't be where they are without Android, and Android wouldn't be where it is without Apple. More OS's in the game would mean more competition and more innovation and improvement. But Windows Phone isn't offering that. People choose Android and iOS over buying Windows Phones because WP won't give the apps and games they need/want. And developers won't waste their time making their apps for WP because it isn't worth it. It's a Catch-22, and I don't like it, but it's definitely there. Remember what article we're commenting on. It's about Snapchat removing 3rd party clients for it's app. Snapchat has no Windows Phone app. The company is worth $10 BILLION. Hundreds of millions of texts are sent every day. And there's no Windows Phone app. Think about that. Maybe this action is a prelude to them actually releasing an WP app. I hope so, and I mean that sincerely (and I've never even used Snapchat).

31. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

I'll bite. The game/app gap is closing. Just like brothers in arms, family guy, candy crush yada yada yada. Seriously if you have that much time to play games, on a phone, then that is something else, good for you. But when you have a 360, x1, pc, tablet...what the heck do i want to game on a 4-6in screen for? UI? meh that is just opinion, i for one hate icons, hate how widgets slow down phones. Could you put 50 widgets with updates on android and still be 'smooth' with just 1 gig of ram? Bank apps? Every big bank is there, and if not their website works fine. My bank is far from big, their android app is a web wrapper. According to you, why would i even have a phone?!?! So far my family has made the switch, we are a family of 15 windows phones, rooms alone make it worth it. Sure there is 3rd party apps, but i trust my data with MS more than 3rd party most of the time. Fun part is, i still use android, i have to, its part of my job to use android, and ios every day over 40 times a day for 8hrs a day. All i can say is....i am thankful i go home with my 930 (used to be 925), to the point i gave up my note 3 (of which i had 4 replacements for various issues). As stated above you, there are many reasons, security of the OS, the fluidity of the OS. The fact that our 521 runs just as smooth as it did the day it was bought, i cannot say that about our alcatel fierce, prism 2, my touch, and various other droid devices, including my droid M from moto, which loves to crash even after master resets. I am sad snapchat hasnt brought an app over, but there are other options. That is what you and other android likers love to point out, options right? So in the wake of this, there is other options, from stock app, to plenty of other apps that like snapchat, kill the message after a time limit. Also if you have trouble with 350k apps, there is a problem, and its not an OS problem. I should note, that there is not a single thing Android offers me, as a user, that i absolutely need without a doubt NEED.

33. Planterz

Posts: 2120; Member since: Apr 30, 2012

Thank you, elitewolverine. I would say however that apart from the Note 3, the Androids you have owned are complete crap. And as for gaming, I would argue that one can't fit an XBox or PS4 in their pants (unless they're VERY happy to see me), and also that most people don't play Words with Friends, Angry Birds, or Bullsh^t Saga Whatever on their home gaming console. As I said previously, I could certainly "get by" with what Windows Phone has to offer. Like you said, Android might not offer me anything that I without a doubt NEED. But I don't need good tasting food either. I don't need good music. I don't need pictures/videos of nekked women that I find attractive doing arousing things. But they make my life more enjoyable. And frankly, I don't see WP making my life more enjoyable, only more frustrating.

35. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Android makes my life frustrating as all hell, all day everyday as a tech support, last line to be exact, where i get to exchange phones over 10 times a day, every day. Thats the point, those phones are crap. Yet my 20$ Nokia 520, can install apps to memory card, doesnt suffer slow down, doesnt suffer the fate of...that phone is crap. Has manual shutter control, iso control, focus. Is like a freaking rock, dropped it over a dozen times 3 feet from tile at walmart with a 3yr old using it to play games. The OS is solid, gets cortana update, and if it comes to fruit will get windows 10. My droid M is stuck on 4.2 or 4.1 i believe, and there is no currently supported root, that wouldnt half my already low memory. Those are not ones that i own, i own(ed) the note 3. I get to play with the likes of z3, z1s, edge, note 4, alcatel, iphone 6, 5c, s5...to name a few. My current favorite is the z3, almost bought it before i pulled the trigger on the 930.

51. aleunge

Posts: 34; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

It’s always easy to try and look like a power user that knows his OSes and maintains a fair and justified view on his preferences. People assume my point here is to solely defend WP, but it really is to call out fanboys and their narrow-minded propaganda. I own more Android devices and iOS devices at home and truly want WP, Firefox OS, WebOS, BB/QNX, my personal fav Meego, and all other underdog/dead OSes to succeed somewhat so we have more competition like you said. After all, little uncared for WP has had quite some features copied in the great and mighty iOS and Android devices (which I’m glad as they make my devices better, especially flat UI, camera roll, panoramic swiping, etc). However, if you actually believe in your own self-righteous blurb there, which I agree to some degree, you would not even have asked the very trollish “why people actually buy and own WP” question. After all, you stated yourself the UI is a personal preference and surely, not everyone is like you. And being a “power user”, I’m surprised app count actually matters that much to you. Frankly, it was only amusing from the Windows Mobile to early iOS/Android era when it was such a novelty to have apps for everything, including an app, or 10 apps, for fart sounds and Arnold soundboards. I hope you do understand that although apps like bank apps are important, almost all of the missing apps can be remedied by simply going to the relevant website and be directed to the mobile site (you’ll find that a lot of company apps are just mobile web wrappers anyway). It might not be ideal of course, but the point is that for people that don’t care all that much about apps and even for some “power users” who knows his way around for getting a task done, it’s a moot point. And besides, if you are all about the apps, about the apps no website (sorry), you would be using and hardselling an iDevice. At least I always get a little irritated when an app/game stereotypically goes to iOS first and Android isn’t slated to get it for a while or is not even announced to have a port coming. This must infuriate you to no end since you love apps/games that much.

52. aleunge

Posts: 34; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

All in all, if you have the open and fair mind that you project yourself to have, you can understand the fact that some people just don’t care the utmost for apps. I for one can get my app fix from my iOS/Android tablets/TV box/secondary phones (although like most people, I find I usually only use a few apps in the long run anyway). I, however, have a more important want in my phones. I’m simply tired of having to unlock bootloader/root/flash a stable custom ROM/find the best working kernals/hope for nightly builds that fixed issues/clear caches/rid bloatware/apply lagfixes (if you’re old enough) on my Android gadgets just to keep updated with new releases and have a smooth running phone. Too many times did I have to keep a few backup ROMs or backup images on my phone for flashing on the go when I realized something isn’t working right or I’m stuck in a bootloop for “some reason”. With WP, I quite simply love the long update and support period provided by MS/(some) carriers; it’s even better than Apple in some ways since you don’t feel pushed to buy new devices when older ones become unworkably slow due to a new update. I don’t worry that Windows 10 would not be available on my two WP devices (one is a crap-end device). On the other hand, I sold my Galaxy Nexus after hearing expectedly there will be no taste of Lollipop on my device. I also have an Android tablet that has more than decent specs. But nope, it’s either custom ROMs or no Lollipop sucking. On my Samsung Notes? About two updates per generation and it’s literally EOL I find. If you’re new to this, having a Nexus 4 yourself, you will soon find out. The point here is not that any OS is perfect, but there’s absolutely no need to kick while an OS is down or dish out a cheap dig simply to make you feel high about your own OS, especially if you’re the type that wants competition so we all win. I hope you know that using the “competition” card and stating how you actually want WP or whatever OS to succeed is contradictory to your initial beat down statements altogether. Anyone with half a tech brain won’t get fooled. You think the competition card is your ally, but you merely adopted it. I was born in it, molded by it. The lesson here is just acting it doesn’t negate the fact you’re just another Android fanboy who simply types a lot.

40. mildorzalost

Posts: 143; Member since: Jun 03, 2014

They're amazing, fluid even in budget phones, premium materials and built quality of nokia/microsoft, beautiful OS... Also, who need snapchat? I have an ipod 5g, try snapchat for a couple days and left it behind, is not a big deal

43. dazzmichael

Posts: 71; Member since: Sep 15, 2014

Everyone has his/her own reason to do a particular thing cus our choices differ. some people love iPhone and hate android and most prefer android to iPhone, some don't like the both. For me, prefer iPhone to android but love WP more than both, my obstacles are genuine apps only. Yes android is the most popular and most used today but some years back it was at the bottom, so as WP. WP is growing so fast so don't be surprised with the level it will gained in 2-3 years time. Android is at the top today, know that there are die hard fans who loved and supported the OS and made it grow to the level it is today. ( only die hard fans grow with an OS)

45. snowgator

Posts: 3614; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Okay, I am about to type something that may actually blow your mind.... I am a WP user, have been for a few years. I am also the Mobile go-to guy for most of my circle of friends and family. When they approach me about a new phone, here is my observations: 1) Most are talking about "The new Droid" or "iPhone" without truly knowing the names of the devices, what price ranges they are in, or even how old they are. 2) Apps are not overrated in functions, but are in picking phones. Before you jump all over me, let me explain. A lot of people when talking phones (just listen to a sales rep at a mobile store talking to customers) will ask simply "Do you use apps?" Of course the answer is "yes", and then they start pushing whatever top end device they can. I do not. I ask- "What apps do you use, how often, and what for?" If someone starts listing a bunch of specific apps, that they use them often, and are truly married to them, I would NEVER recommend WP to them. Like EVER. Yes, the app gap is shrinking, but WP will never catch up to iOS or Android for app count or selection. So, if your smartphone use revolves around apps, I would then ask other questions (Do you like to tinker? Is device form factor important to you? Do you use your phone to pay bills or as a social network? How much do you want to spend? So on.) to pick an Andriod or iPhone. However, when asking about SPECIFIC app usage, very few of the hundreds of people I have talked to since 2009-ish when I first started cell phone research list tons of apps. Sometimes they pull out their phones and see they play some games, use Facebook or something, and all the rest just sit on their phone, used once or twice. When someone says "I use my banking app" for instance, I ask "How?" Turns out most just check balances, rarely doing much else, and often only once every couple months. Now, WP has nearly zero local banking apps and only a few major bank apps, but if all you are is checking balnces, why cross off WP as an option when the browser has that covered just like on your home computer? There have been a ton of people I recommend WP to- and of the ones who have followed my advice, none have been disappointed for all the excellent reasons mentioned by other posters. But honestly- I offer what OS and OEM that would work best for the person I am talking to. Usually, that ends up not being WP. But also honestly: Apps very often are not used as much as they are cracked up to be. Most people use a dozen or less, even if they have 200 on their phones. All the rest collect virtual dust. WP has a ton to offer users who want a fluid, supported, function filled, slightly different and easy to master OS.

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