After winning $368 million from Apple in court, VirnetX back again for more

After winning $368 million from Apple in court, VirnetX back again for more
Just last week, a small Nevada based company called VirnetX won a $368 million judgment against Apple. Apple was alleged to have infringed on four patents related to a method that establishes a secure communication link between two devices. The suit claimed that Apple's FaceTime video chat service infringed on the patents. Apple said in its defense that even if its engineers used the technology described in the patent, it was a small part of very large, complex products and was used inadvertently. According to an attorney who represented VirnetX during the trial, Apple's developers apparently testified that they didn't look at patents while developing FaceTime.

With that in mind, VirnetX is seeking to mine some more gold from Apple. Clutching the same IP it used to win the first case, the company now alleges that Apple's newer products also infringe on the patents. These devices are the Apple iPhone 5, the fourth-generation Apple iPad, the Apple iPad mini, the 5th generation Apple iPod touch and the newest Mac computers. Any Apple device that supports the FaceTime video chat feature that wasn't part of the first suit, is part of the second one.

The new suit was filed the very same day that VirnetX won the first case. In the new suit, VirnetX is seeking a preliminary injunction against the devices allegedly infringing on the patents, as well as damages. The patents involved in the new suit as well as the previous one, are U.S. Patent numbers 6,502,135, 7,418,504, 7,921,211 and 7,490,151.

source: AppleInsider



1. Topcat488

Posts: 1415; Member since: Sep 29, 2012

Well They do have a point here... If the patent is violated again and again, you must pay accordingly... Anybody up for dessert; I want more Apple pie please....

10. MeoCao unregistered

But before having the pie one must put apple into an oven.

65. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Patent abuse. Why aren't they going after other video calling services?

66. matrix_neo

Posts: 334; Member since: Nov 03, 2011

Who started abusing patents?! Rectangular shape with rounded corners? They don't sue other video calling services because they are like apple, suing only those who threaten the sales of their products. Remember what apple has been doing to Samsung? Is Apple should not be sued even it infringe ip's of other companies? Is apple above the law?

69. JeffdaBeat unregistered

If they've won against Apple, they will probably file suit against the other companies very soon.

70. LionStone

Posts: 1048; Member since: Dec 10, 2010

Which is to assume that the other companies are infringing on said patents.

84. gothicheart

Posts: 83; Member since: Oct 17, 2012

unless of course, those other companies know how to respect and appreciate the innovation of others, it's only apple that copies and patent these innovation, for christsakes, even their best-selling products has a copied name....

89. letgomyeggroll

Posts: 139; Member since: Jun 13, 2012

They wont file law suit against other companies just Apple. They started all this, and Im sure others are giving Virtex the courage and boost to go after Apple. And like I said the companies arent developing the Video Chat, they just let the app enable in the device thats all

75. someones4

Posts: 627; Member since: Sep 16, 2012

Because they hate Apple that's why. And they have enough money to pay, so why not?

76. Droiddoes unregistered

Can I buy some pot off of you, mxy? That has got to be some amazing ish.

85. rusticguy

Posts: 2828; Member since: Aug 11, 2012

It's their wish to decide but you are right it is {ATENT ABUSE ... by Apple though :D

87. letgomyeggroll

Posts: 139; Member since: Jun 13, 2012

Its a cat and mice game. Apple is the big cat and the others are the mouse. They are after Apple to show them that they are the innovation company. So these little companies are the big keys the patent of them all. And besides, the others are using a third party for the video chatting. Unlike Apple, they are not claiming the innovations.

15. PhenomFaz

Posts: 1236; Member since: Sep 26, 2012

Round 2...Ding! Ding! Ding! Oh by the way I just LLLOOOOVVVVEEEEE Pies baby...especially Apple Pie :)

61. Nadr1212

Posts: 741; Member since: Sep 22, 2012

Looks like virnetX is becoming more like apple by the case

35. Googlethis

Posts: 179; Member since: Jul 05, 2012

some one said pie. APPLE PIE!!!!!

49. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

+1 on a second helping of dessert (Thumbup!). If the roles were reversed, Apple would be going for a sales ban.

52. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Violation? This is patent abuse and pure greed. I think the case should be tossed out and Apple countersue.

53. tedkord

Posts: 17312; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Your hypocrisy is duly noted.

54. Googlethis

Posts: 179; Member since: Jul 05, 2012

You do realise that apple does the same exact thing this company is doing. So with your logic anything apple does is golden meaning that if they sue a company regardless of evidence they should win and if a company sues apple for patent infringment that company's claim should be tossed out and counter sued for wasting apples time. your mind is a bit warped.

60. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

Your hypocrisy amuses me now. HAHA

79. GeekMovement unregistered

Guys, he's brainwashed. He doesn't understand the word hypocrisy.

86. rusticguy

Posts: 2828; Member since: Aug 11, 2012

Apple plays role model for all when it comes to "GREED" driven actions :)

88. letgomyeggroll

Posts: 139; Member since: Jun 13, 2012

Hey dummy, why don't you count how many lawsuits that Apple has right now pending alone?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

64. Spariant

Posts: 12; Member since: Mar 09, 2012

I think samsung should buy this small company and sue apple's a$$!

74. AnTuTu

Posts: 1602; Member since: Oct 14, 2012

I am up for the "Apple pie" :)

2. dan86

Posts: 298; Member since: Mar 17, 2012

Hunter turns prey. God bless Apple! Looks good days gone in hell:)

3. ramonleonjr62

Posts: 48; Member since: Oct 17, 2012

keeping rolling an more to come

4. Max_Boost

Posts: 101; Member since: Sep 22, 2012

Hahaha. Talk about iPwnage. Hahaha

5. 8logic

Posts: 154; Member since: Mar 05, 2012

the chickens are coming home to roost

6. FAW-Q

Posts: 63; Member since: Jul 29, 2011

Seems like Apple is finally getting a full dose of it's own medicine.

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