Add an iris scanner to the iPhone 8's list of suspected features
by Joe M. / Feb 10, 2017, 1:56 PM
iPhone 8, X, or whatever the special 10th year anniversary edition ends getting named, is also expected to come equipped with things along the lines of truly wireless charging and an all-new take on 3D Touch that currently exists on the iPhone 6S and 7 series. On top of these and all other claims we've been hearing, you can add an iris scanner to the list of expected features for Apple's iPhone 8.Thoughts and rumors about 2017's iPhone have been circulating pretty much every since the 7 and 7 Plus were announced, and we've heard some pretty wild claims so far. Additions such as a larger battery and improved dual-camera setup sound very par for the course, but the
The report that an iris scanner will be present on the phone comes by way of DigiTimes, and although it isn't necessarily a ground-breaking addition, it would certainly be a nice touch to be able to unlock the iPhone 8 with either your fingerprint or your eyes. We've previously seen iris scanners on handsets such as the Microsoft Lumia 950/950 XL and Samsung's Galaxy Note 7, and if Apple does decide to add this eye-scanning tech to its upcoming flagship, you can safely bet that the company will do whatever it can to make it noticeably faster and more secure that the implementations we've seen so far.
DigiTimes' report also goes on to say that "Makers in the supply chain are generally optimistic about the popularity of the device", and based off of everything we've already conjured for the iPhone 8, we don't find this hard to believe at all. Apple needs to go all out in 2017 with it being the 10th year anniversary of the first iPhone launch, and if an iris scanner is part of the equation to make the iPhone 8 the best phone we've seen from Apple yet, you won't find us complaining.
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they need to get infrared iris scanners in general, have a little ir blaster so that even in bad visible light it will work, currently having to cope with all sorts of lighting conditions seems to be doing at best 'ok'
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 1:58 PM 0
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Which is exactly how the Note 7 had it implemented (LED light covering IR range plus iris camera sensitive to IR light), hence why it even worked in darkness or with other light sources interfering/ directly shining into the scanner.
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 3:00 PM 16
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Samsung already do that (some with Microsoft) In the future, I wonder if something like this will work for iris scanninghttp://www.businesswire.com/ne
Its a sensor that senses both RGB and IR
I think it still needs an IR LED, but it would mean one less camera on the front of the phone sonic-Worlds-First*1-Organic-CMOS-Image-Sensor
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 4:01 PM 1
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I'd only appreciate an iris scanner if it unlocks the device at the same speed as the fingerprint scanner. With animations turned off (jailbroken 6S+ iOS 10.2), I unlock the phone in a fraction of a second.
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 2:00 PM 0
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I know the one that was featured in the Note 7 was able to recognize and unlock the phone in under a second. The problem wasn't so much the time it took to actually recognize your eyes and unlock the device, but instead it had to deal with how to activate the iris scanner. You had to click on the home button and then flick up in order to activate it. I think ideally it should automatically activate when the device is locked and you pick up your smartphone (similar to how your screen automatically turns on when you pick up your phone).
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 2:47 PM 7
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For that, the camera and the IR must be always running which would kill the battery very fast. Yes it may be set to start searching for the eyes as soon as you pick the phone up but, still that would be a battery killer as you don't always pick up the phone to use it.
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 5:07 PM 0
iPhones have "raise to wake" function that works perfectly - why not activTe the iris scanner same way. Either way, I agree with other posters - if it takes longer than fingerprint or more effort to activate it every time you pick up your phone - it would be cumbersome and a fail oitkofbthe box.
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 9:01 PM 0
You don't have to press the button. Just rest your finger on be home button with wake to unlock turned on or off. "press your finger" to activate is an option you can turn on or off in settings. Either way, my device is unlocked while I pull it out of my pocket or picking it up - long before it meets my eyes - that's super convenient - if iris scanner either on Apple or Samsung takes a fraction of a second longer (which the current models DO) - it's a fail!
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 9:45 PM 1
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I have to disagree. Infrared has a very low power consumption. Think about your old TV remote control and how long that lasts on just a couple of AA batteries. And usually in a lot of your remotes you have two IR blasters that are being used and it's a much larger blaster than what's found on the iris scanner in smartphones. So I think the battery drain would be negligible. Maybe a total of 1% after an entire day of locking and unlocking your device.
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 11:07 PM 0
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It did on the Note 7. Or in my case. It does unlock as fast as the FSP. You just have to learn how to hold the phone at first. I turned it off, because even though it works, I wear contacts and sometimes it didn't. There were time I expected it to work and it didnt and time I didnt and it did. Got ot be annoying. Once I get Lasik this summer, I will work all the time. Because when I set it up without my contacts, it worked every single time. The speed is equal to using the FPS.
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 3:08 PM 1
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Are you serious about Apple making it faster and safer? Their fingerprint readers are o faster and the lockscreens have been bypassed many times in many ways. Stop bumming Apple. When you suspected Samsung of adding 3d touch you talk about how they copy. When Apple copy stuff you talk about how much better they will do it. So why aren't their screens, cameras etc better. PATHETIC!
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 2:02 PM 15
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iPhone 7 have pretty great display it's just that it's LCD not AMOLED. In my experience LCD are better for text and AMOLED for media consumption. Well if you use one phone it might not matter but if you have an AMOLED phone and iPhone you would know that it's true. Apple really play catch-up game ( sometimes ). About camera iPhone and galaxy phone are not great taking pictures of people that is still Pixel place but when. You take pictures of places then Galaxy does better but still Pixel will beat it in dynamic range. Performance is one are where iPhone and Galaxy feels slower even they comes high in benchmarks. But Pixel is really something I have never used and I have used a lot really slot of flagship phones and from almost all major OEM except Sony. Scrolling on iOS sucks but iPhone fingerprint scanner is really great and Galaxy scanner is okay IMO. Point of all this is. No one is perfect and some has to offer what other don't. I love iPhone but I love Android. I love Samsung display I love Pixel camera Design before HTC Ultra S7 edge or note 7 was my favorite Sound I really loved on HTC 10 Software experience Pixel is best for me so smooth and fast. IP68 is really great though I feel IP67 as good on iPhone Wireless charging is one thing I have never used Daydream sucks My next phone most probably will be S8 plus cuz of its looks and AMOLED display and Skipping G6 cuz of display just But if I have money I will replace my Pixel with Pixel 2 and iPhone 7 plus with iPhone 8 and I am curious about HTC Ultra with SD835 not yet announced but also want to see what OnePlus brings to table or it keep increasing its prices
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 2:22 PM 1
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When has Apple NOT done that? The fingerprint scanner on the Atrix was trash tier, Apple did it better. Why wouldn't this be the same considering the phones that offered the IS before it were ultimately disfunctional?
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 2:51 PM 3
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You just want to calim swiping a finger is worse than not havign to swipt, when it isnt. The scanner still oferred the same benefit. The only extra benefit APple got was, devs added features to apps to use it. Was Apple's way better. Of course it was betetr because the sensor begin larger means you dont have to swipe. I had the Atrix, I didnt have nay issue unlocking it no more than I had with the iPhone or my Galaxy. It has the same exact issues. If you fingers are very cold, very dry, very wet, dirty, greasy or very wrinkled; it won't work even if you swipe. But Apple's isn't goign to be any more secure. It was duped within 24 hours with a piece of tape and a fingerprint. lol. That's not secure.
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 3:12 PM 11
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Dude, I know you love to diss Apple, and uplift Google/Samsung any chance you get. You cannot however, be serious about the Atrix FP sensor. That thing was trash, and everyone spoke about it being so. Apple FP sensor is worlds ahead of it, and that can't even remotely be denied. You seem to have owned a ton of tech over the years, like me, but you're so biased towards, and dead set on dissing Apple, that you can't even be counted on to deliver real deal verdicts. Your Apple bias is why I largely avoid conversing with you.
posted on Feb 12, 2017, 4:09 PM 1
IOS devices are still more secure then Android devices by a long mile. Many sources can prove this, including the owner of the top and biggest blackhat company in the world, Zerodium who is paying out $1.5 million dollars per iOS exploit and has explicitly said that iOS 10 is up to almost 7 times harder to crack and penetrate over Nougat They are paying out less then $250K for Android exploits, a massive difference. Android is both easier to break into/exploit and also much more already known exploits on Android are still around and can be used on tens of millions of Android devices that are nehind on updates And PA does have a great point though, Apple is typically late to game with many features but when they add them, they generally out execute the competitors with the featuee and implement it better(5S FP scanner blowed every other scanner out on the smartpgone market at the time and still has a more secure authorization system then other Androiddevices, etc)
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 4:11 PM 2
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yeah right.. far more secure.. that's why it can be frozen by text massage, website link and video (they got this kind of problem more than 4 times last year IIRC) btw, is zerodium even legit? where did they get all that money? lots of people already think that it's just publicity stunt
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 8:45 PM 2
"Publicity stunt" lol are you just trolling now? They been buying exploits on the black market for years now and they resell them to bigger government bodies/etc for a profit. iOS exploits are about 6-7x time harder then Nougat exploits and they are also paying up to 5-7x more money per exploit for iOS over Android. That alone is all you need to know. Frozen text message doesn't compromise device data and has been patched already, they are able to issue patches out to over 500 million users same day, these issues you are mentioning aren't actual "exploits" and don't give up data, just bugs in the OS. I am talking about actual security vulnerabilities/holes that hackers use , Android has much more then iOS does I can list 5 mass known exploits on Android still being widely abused today on tens of millions of Android devices globally. Android security in some aspects is literally over 5 years behind iOS
posted on Feb 10, 2017, 9:47 PM 3
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