A Samsung 'Lucky-LTE' device crops up with an Exynos 8890 and 4GB RAM, posts great score

A Samsung 'Lucky-LTE' device crops up with an Exynos 8890 and 4GB RAM, posts great score
Samsung's decision to ditch Qualcomm in favor of its own Exynos chips, who had leapfrogged the San Diego-based silicon slinger's offerings and moved to a superior, 14nm process, was met with complete surprise. Yes, it makes sense for a company that makes its own chips to use them in their phones, but until very recently, Samsung's semiconductor unit was lagging behind, so Qualcomm was an obvious partner for its super high-ends. If a new benchmark run through GeekBench's suite of tests is any indication, this isn't about to change: a new, mysterious device was spotted supposedly running an unknown Exynos 8890 system chip.

Dubbed 'Samsung Lucky-LTE', the device manages somewhat consistently high scores — across two dozen retries — that actually exceed what the Galaxy S6 achieves, and is neck-and-neck with the Note5. This discrepancy is likely the result of the Lucky-LTE's 4GB of RAM on board, equal to the module available with the Note5, but more than what the Galaxy S6 has available. From what we see, the chip is based on 64-bit ARMv8 architecture and sports eight cores clocked at just under 1.4GHz, with Android 5.1.1 Lollipop handling things on the software side. 

Considering that the supposed Exynos 8890 posted similar results to ones attainable with an Exynos 7420 device, we can't help but advice caution — GeekBench is not impervious to mistakes and it can be tricked into reporting fake values. On the other hand, the 8890 could be a real chip that simply hasn't been worked on enough just yet, so it could prove meaner in the future. In any case, it's quite likely that work on a successor to the Exynos 7420 has been ongoing for a while now, and we'll get to see a successor at some point in 2016.

Thanks for the tip, Zami!

A Samsung 'Lucky-LTE' device crops up with an Exynos 8890 and 4GB RAM, posts great score

source: GeekBench

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31 Comments

1. Trex95

Posts: 2320; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

S6 still the king of single core performance of Android 1509.

5. Shocky unregistered

True, not sure that's something to be happy about given it's beaten by the iPhone 6 and Apple are announcing the iPhone 6s today.

7. vincelongman

Posts: 5611; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Not surprisingly Apple designs their SoC with a focus on single core performance Samsung designs their's with a focus on multi core performance If Apple's A9 can beat the 7420's multi core performance, then that would be very very impressive BTW both single core and multi core performance are important

12. Shocky unregistered

I'd prefer higher single core and lower multicore, Android does a decent job of spreading the load but unless the app is fully multithreaded there is little benefit for that application.

15. vincelongman

Posts: 5611; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Its been proven plenty of times that Android scales across multiple threads very very well for basically all apps IMO they are current equally important Until Vulkan is released, its a low level graphics API, like Mantle for Windows 7+, Metal for iOS 8+ and DX12 for Windows 10 And until Android is update to use Vulkan like Metal in iOS 9 Then multi core performance will become more important IMO Here's why according to Intelhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llOHf4eeSzc Or you can see iOS 9 and OS X El Captain if want to see Apple's explaination

24. tedkord

Posts: 17094; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

That would be true if your phone only ran the foreground app and didn't have dozens of background processes running at all times.

28. gingerboy92

Posts: 13; Member since: Jul 06, 2014

anandtech released a very interesting article about this. read it up and make your own conclusion anandtech.com/show/9518/the-mobile-cpu-corecount-d​ebate

21. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

in many game ported from IOS single core is more important..

9. Trex95

Posts: 2320; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Let's be honest people thing I'm Apple fanboy actually I'm not an a fan of any, but I'm always appreciate the best and Apple knows how to optimize there OS to take the advantages of hardwer in the right way. Samsung trying to do there best, but the problem with Android OS we can't blame only Samsung and touchwiz plus iPhone always has bigger single core than SD and Exyonse.

20. TylerGrunter

Posts: 1544; Member since: Feb 16, 2012

But that's not related to OS optimization in any way. Apple is just using bigger cores that offer better single core performance. Cyclone cores are nearly twice as big as A57s/A72s.

23. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

But dont offer twice the performance ;)

25. TylerGrunter

Posts: 1544; Member since: Feb 16, 2012

And neither does moving from 2 cores to 4 cores... So it's not an easy to decide what of the two strategies is better.

22. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Ofcourse we can blame touchwiz.. We put a Custom rom whitout it on a S6 and its had better benchmark and overall performance. Man i hate it when ppl talk of stuff they have no clue about. Sure ios is really well optimized but Apple should give you better hardware anyway. IOS on a 8 core beast ( or quad at least ) with 3 or 4 gb of ram would destroy the competition yep uterly smash it but its wont happen because Apple use the cheapest possible part for Ram , battery , screen and such only place they dont use the most cheap part is CPU and GPU and design and even then its borderline. But Apple dont do future proof device they do device you have to change every 2 years and thats it to make the maximum margin on phone and maximum profit. In today world this is a succeful company thats how capitalist system work. This is why i wont ever get an iphone because i dont beleive thats giving just enuf is enuf :) For me is give me what i pay for and an example of this is my Sony Z1 ( i dont use it anymore as i work in cellphone industry and change phone every 6 months lol ) i still have it to take picture with it and its also has all my music to play in my car. This phone on latest android update is amazing its feel as fast as any high end android phone its super stable and with Camera FV-5 app its still take better picture than even the S6. Its still play all games at max detail with no slowdown. Its 2 years old and i am sure will be fine for another 2 years easy. Give me an iphone with such hardware with ios on top and you may win my purchase.

26. Trex95

Posts: 2320; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

IOS doesn't required all these beastly hardware and still perform if not better than Android flagship. It's about optimization not only hardware and since Apple own there OS they knows what they're doing unlike Android OEM's that doesn't own Google Android. I own the S6 and yes it's best phone made by Samsung to date beside note 5 and s6 edge plus.

31. HomerS

Posts: 419; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

IOS uses beastly hardware aswell but concentrated on Single/Dualcores, (likely next year also on Quadcores). Apples dualcores can't be compared to Androids dualcores.

10. Supersonic

Posts: 226; Member since: May 15, 2015

Really? You are in which world. You are comparing an outdated crap with S6.

17. Felix_Gatto

Posts: 942; Member since: Jul 03, 2013

You forgot the Tegra K1 Denver.

30. Techist

Posts: 311; Member since: Jan 27, 2015

I'm not sure why most people are treating this as Samsung's next high end Exynos chip. It is more likely a new-generation mid-range chip that is benefiting from the 14nm process and probably the Cortex A72 architecture. The high end is the Exynos M1 that a while back scored a single core score of 2136 and multi-core of 7497.

2. vincelongman

Posts: 5611; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Probably a Note 5 with an edited build.prop

13. TyrionLannister unregistered

No, the note 5 can't have that low single core score. Also the frequency of LITTLE cores is 1.38 GHz compared to 1.5. This looks like an underclocked variant of the 7420, to be used in a upper midranger. Something like Note 5 neo.

16. vincelongman

Posts: 5611; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Look at the strangle processor ID, "ARM implementer 83" It suggest its not A57s+A53s The 7420, 810, 808, 5433 have processor ID starting with "ARM implementer 65" I reckon its edited because a newer Exynos with A72s+A53s or custom cores would have better performance than this And I don't understand why their newer Exynos 8890 would have worse single core performance than the Exynos 7420 An underclocked variant of the 7420 would be given a lower number, e.g. 7120 Its probably both edited build.prop and underclocked

18. TyrionLannister unregistered

Exynos 7580 is a midrange chip despite the higher number than 7420. So numbers don't necessarily mean better performance or chip.

19. vincelongman

Posts: 5611; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Didn't know about the Exynos 7580, really strange naming scheme But my point about the processor ID still stands :)

3. Shocky unregistered

Good scores, but not great. However it's only clocked at 1.38Ghz which is interesting.

6. vincelongman

Posts: 5611; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Geekbench always reports the clock rate of core1, which would be one of the LITTLE cores (e.g. 1.5Ghz for the 7420 because of the 1.5Ghz A53s)

14. Shocky unregistered

That's true but the clockspeeds are still different to Exynos 7420 regardless of the which cores are being reporting.

4. SonyOwner unregistered

Hoping it'll be the note edge successor.

8. Dr.SamX

Posts: 233; Member since: Jan 19, 2015

Could this be a "Galaxy Tab S Pro"?

11. UglyFrank

Posts: 2188; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

With a real battery and film focused resolution?

29. j2001m

Posts: 3060; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

It may be there new tablet they showed off at when they did the gear s2 show off

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