BlackBerry Passport ReviewBlackBerry Passport 7.5
It’s amazing how things can quickly go to hell for some companies in the mobile space, where one day they’re a top-tiered contender, to being overlooked as an antiquated player who can’t seem to innovate. One company in this particular predicament is BlackBerry, who is still to this time trying to stay afloat amidst the stiff competition that’s around.
Interestingly, it’s been nearly 2 years already since BlackBerry launched the Z10 – an all-touch smartphone running the company’s contemporary BlackBerry 10 OS, which aimed to bring the company back into good light. Sadly, though, that wasn’t the outcome, as the company continues to struggle to be a relevant player.
From the looks of it, they’re going back what they’re most noteworthy for bringing to the smartphone world. Touch is all nice, but the BlackBerry Passport sports a familiar form factor that builds upon the reputation of the company. Paired with a physical keyboard, a standout and iconic feature of past BlackBerries, the Passport is the modern BlackBerry reincarnated. Will paying homage get consumers excited for it?
The package contains:
- microUSB cable
- Wall charger
- Stereo headphones
- Start guide
- Product safety and warranty information user manual
Reinventing the look of a BlackBerry, the Passport is beautifully crafted and designed to exude a modern finish that looks good.
This is a beautifully designed, solidly constructed phone that’s very different from the usual slates we’re accustomed to seeing nowadays. At the same time, it bears a faint familiarity to past BlackBerry smartphones, but its edgier look gives it an elevated, contemporary design that’s unique in the space at the moment.
Small design choices, like its stainless steel frame, tells us that the company invested a lot of time and care to designing the Passport. If there’s one qualm we have about the device, it’s that it’s pretty wide – to the point that it’s almost unwieldy to hold for those with smaller hands. Heck, it’s wider than the iPhone 6 Plus! Call it ironic, but the Passport nearly matches the dimensions of an actual passport.
All of the handset’s ports and buttons are placed along the stainless steel frame. They include the power button, 3.5mm headset jack, microUSB 2.0 port, left & right speakers, microphone, volume control, and a quick key button placed in between the volume control that acts as a pause/play function, as well launching BlackBerry Assistant with a long press. Part of the rear cover can be removed to access its nanoSIM and microSD card slots, but the battery is not accessible.
128 x 90.3 x 9.3 mm
6.91 oz (196 g)
158.1 x 77.8 x 7.1 mm
6.07 oz (172 g)
153.5 x 78.6 x 8.5 mm
6.21 oz (176 g)
146.3 x 74.6 x 8.9 mm
5.26 oz (149 g)
Disorganized, cramped, and some other weird quirks make the keyboard almost impossible to use effectively.
Well, there are new innovations that we applaud – like how it’s touch sensitive. In fact, it’s useful in the way that we can swipe our finger over the keyboard to place the cursor in a specific spot, which is a lot more intuitive than other touchscreen-only implementations. In addition, its enhanced predictive text feature allows us to swipe up from the left, center, or right areas of the keyboard to select a specific predictive word.
Despite those new features, the keyboard as a whole is still not as intuitive or hassle-free than a standard all-touch. Indeed, some people will prefer the physical response of its keyboard, but it’s a shame that it doesn’t act in the same useful manner as previous BlackBerry keyboards.
The wider look of the display is unconventional, but it proves to be ideal for productivity centric tasks.
An unconventional shape, the Passport features a squarish 4.5-inch 1440 x 1440 IPS LCD display, which is the sharpest (453 ppi) and highest resolution screen to grace a BlackBerry smartphone. Details are undoubtedly crisp, but the true benefit here is that we can see more of a web page or document because it’s 30% wider than the average 5-inch display.
What’s especially nice, too, is that the screen exhibits some high quality elements. Impressively, it produces a blinding maximum brightness output of 894 nits, which makes it extremely visible outdoors with the sun present. Just for a comparison, the iPhone 6 manages to deliver 606 nits of brightness with its display. Meanwhile, its color temperature of ~7000 K (reference value of 6500 K) means the white point is pretty accurate, only slightly blueish. And finally, it’s pretty accurate with its color reproduction – where it hits very closely to the various reference points in our display benchmarking test.
Display measurements and quality
|Maximum brightness (nits)Higher is better||Minimum brightness (nits)Lower is better||Contrast Higher is better||Color temperature (Kelvins)||Gamma||Delta E rgbcmy Lower is better||Delta E grayscale Lower is better|
|Apple iPhone 6 Plus||574
|Samsung Galaxy Note 4||468
The numbers below represent the amount of deviation in the respective property, observed when a display is viewed from a 45-degree angle as opposed to direct viewing.
|Maximum brightness Lower is better||Minimum brightness Lower is better||Contrast Lower is better||Color temperature Lower is better||Gamma Lower is better||Delta E rgbcmy Lower is better||Delta E grayscale Lower is better|
|Samsung Galaxy Note 4||68.8%
|Apple iPhone 6 Plus||84.7%
The CIE 1931 xy color gamut chart represents the set (area) of colors that a display can reproduce, with the sRGB colorspace (the highlighted triangle) serving as reference. The chart also provides a visual representation of a display's color accuracy. The small squares across the boundaries of the triangle are the reference points for the various colors, while the small dots are the actual measurements. Ideally, each dot should be positioned on top of its respective square. The 'x: CIE31' and 'y: CIE31' values in the table below the chart indicate the position of each measurement on the chart. 'Y' shows the luminance (in nits) of each measured color, while 'Target Y' is the desired luminance level for that color. Finally, 'ΔE 2000' is the Delta E value of the measured color. Delta E values of below 2 are ideal.
This measurements are made using SpectraCal's CalMAN calibration software.
The Color accuracy chart gives an idea of how close a display's measured colors are to their referential values. The first line holds the measured (actual) colors, while the second line holds the reference (target) colors. The closer the actual colors are to the target ones, the better.
This measurements are made using SpectraCal's CalMAN calibration software.
The Grayscale accuracy chart shows whether a display has a correct white balance (balance between red, green and blue) across different levels of grey (from dark to bright). The closer the Actual colors are to the Target ones, the better.
This measurements are made using SpectraCal's CalMAN calibration software.
22. ihavenoname (Posts: 1693; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)
It's very polarizing and unusual device, so reviews are highly subjective.
54. Spedez (Posts: 437; Member since: 29 Aug 2014)
Can we have more nesting-levels in comments? So confusing who's responding to what.
84. BobbyDigital (Posts: 1836; Member since: 29 May 2014)
But true, it still is. Biggest troll on PA you are. Life very lonely for you it is to troll so much.
61. AnTuTu (Posts: 1578; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)
John VVVVVVVVVVV proves again why he is the worst and biased reviewer on the Internet.
You guys are loosing your ground and becoming paid reviewers instead of tech.
73. downphoenix (Posts: 3155; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
The review just proves that they review devices from a consumer standpoint only. The Passport is a solid device, but as far as consumer devices go, you could definitely do better within that price range. Seems to be a beast of a phone for Enterprise and business minded customers since it has what they need and some pretty good media and camera features, but if that kind of stuff is a primary need for them, they will want a different phone, probably android.
92. thesims2customs (Posts: 61; Member since: 12 Jul 2014)
If I were him, I would've give this phone 8.5. Not 9 because the camera, but yes, it is a good phone, something who can keep Blackberry alives
127. TonyStark (Posts: 9; Member since: 10 Oct 2012)
No bitten apple on the back. That's why.
If it had one, it'd have 9 or higher.
139. Bouquet (Posts: 1; Member since: 04 Apr 2016)
I just got rid of mine: far too complex. A total miss from RIM who dose not understand really it's customer base: active people who don't want to "get into the new word of computer" but leave a real business life. The Passport totally miss that. Over complex, not compatible Excell really... A failure and RIM management deserves not to be congratulated on this strange useless device for computer adicts who have time to waste in trying to understand these bad machines.
25. Busyboy (unregistered)
Because it's different from the rest. That's why. Damn Phonearena with all your bias reviews it's disgusting
51. Commentator (Posts: 3665; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
What, different in that it has an inferior keyboard to Blackberries from over a decade ago?
28. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Because they have to praise the iPhone and feature it on the review almost more than the BlackBerry itself. BTW am i the only one that thinks the case the reviewer is using on the iPhone looks like a sanitary towel?
35. Jimrod (Posts: 980; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)
Didn't the Galaxy Note 4 just get a better review than the iPhone 6? So many people here are blinkered fanboys... Or just very stupid, angry people.
4. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3535; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
PA doesn't support innovation. Look at Jolla and this review.
36. alumoyo (Posts: 345; Member since: 26 Aug 2013)
They are stuck in the Apple/Android blueprint of what a smartphone should be. TUNNEL VISION!
74. Venkatramanan (Posts: 308; Member since: 15 Aug 2014)
Apple & Samsung. Not Whole Android. But for some times they were biased towards Sony too. (T2 Ultra was overrated) . But they never gave a genuine review for any HTC/ Nokia/ BB.
5. shahrooz (Posts: 706; Member since: 17 Sep 2013)
I think this review should have been done by a blackberry fan which is the same treat as some other phones in this website.
26. Awalker (Posts: 1394; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
You should probably go to a blackberry site. When I'm looking for a review of an Android phone I go an Android site.
29. Pattyface (Posts: 1518; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)
Believe it or not this isn't an android site so no
30. Awalker (Posts: 1394; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
I'm not sure why you think I think this is an Android site. I go to places like Droid-life or Android Central for reviews of Android phones.
89. TerryTerius (Posts: 1536; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)
No review should be done by any fan. They should be as non-biased as possible regardless of device. Having a fan review a product from a company they're positively or negatively biased towards defeats any kind of objectivity.
94. thesims2customs (Posts: 61; Member since: 12 Jul 2014)
I'd rather choose an innocent people. Review by the makers could end into something else
9. osbert (Posts: 125; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)
Read the review; not much to complain about, generally average or above.
See the cons; KB layout - subjective, ecosystem - Business users haven't got a huge selection of fart apps to choose from? I'm sure they'll be horrified, camera - two points in the cons even though average in review, learning curve - subjective again.
7.5? sure, why not.
7.5 for a typical 13 - 21 year old apple/droid user.
Businesspeople looking to get stuff done? I'd suggest looking around elsewhere for a review that caters to the market this phone is aimed at.
63. tury694 (Posts: 167; Member since: 25 Aug 2014)
The old Blackberry keyboard was perfect. I played around with this and it's not even as good as a software keyboard. WTH I was so excited for this too. Hopefully the keyboard suits you well. I would've given it a rating in the 8 range but whatever.
10. Pattyface (Posts: 1518; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)
I thought about trying this device but couldn't find a passport to try.
64. tury694 (Posts: 167; Member since: 25 Aug 2014)
In the 8 range would've been fair. Have you used that keyboard? I hated it, but only used it for one day(friends phone). I had higher hopes for this beast, but that damn awkward keyboard killed it for me.
13. Hassan420i (Posts: 24; Member since: 23 Jun 2013)
Con: Lack of third party apps support.
where was this con when they reviewed iPhone?
or iPhone supports third party app without jailbreaking?
18. seanwhat (Posts: 280; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
PA are rubbish for reviews. you should only come here for news.
95. thesims2customs (Posts: 61; Member since: 12 Jul 2014)
I am, well, I believe in Android Authority for reviews on YouTube :}
19. jellmoo (Posts: 1486; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
I... You see... That is... Seriously??? The phone gets penalized because you can't be bothered to take the time to learn how to use it? You can't figure out how to use the keyboard (hint: it works like Fleksy) so the score goes down?
I'm sorry PA, but if your "mobile experts" reviewing hardware can't figure out how to use the device, then maybe it's time to reevaluate your methods.
130. farrid (Posts: 34; Member since: 20 Jun 2014)
Pretty sad how he did not make a point to highlight all the positive things like in credible battery, innovative keyboard design and touch features for on screen editing (which he failed to demonstrate completely. Probably because he didn't use it long enough to even know). How efficiently the hub works or that there are other stores that can be installed.
Very disappointed in the quality of the reviewer.
Oh and he didn't know that if you hold the key down it makes a capital letter. What an idiot!!!!!!!!!
137. relic74 (Posts: 12; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)
Right, a feature that has been part of BlackBerry for years and he didn't know it, after that I knew the reviewer didn't spend anytime in actually using it or researching it's features. Seems to be a problem with a lot of reviewers lately, the just want to rush through it, especially if they don't like the phone.
31. buccob (Posts: 2512; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
"Call it ironic, but the Passport nearly matches the dimensions of an actual passport."
Wasn't that the exact idea behind the device? to actually match the dimensions of an international Passport...
No irony here...
33. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3713; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
I thought the same thing. I'm not sure that he understands the definition of the word.
32. buccob (Posts: 2512; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Not to fill this section with unnecessary comments... but:
"long pressing on the backspace button makes it act as a deleting function – so if you’re not careful, it can unintentionally delete things"
I think long pressing backspace key on ANY keyboard will delete what's written... Did you left some explanation out John V? If not, I don't understand the problem here.
55. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
I am guessing he means you can delete home screen icons and apps like that. That's what I get out of reading that part.
If I am right, then that's a horrible function if you can't turn it off. You can in theory pocket delete along with pocket dial.
56. buccob (Posts: 2512; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Thanks!, your comment made much more sense that what was redacted in the article...
Specially when you note the picture of Apps with the little trashcan icon on top... it makes sense that this is what John V was referring to.
And rightfully so, it is a scary feature to have if it can't be disabled.
34. alumoyo (Posts: 345; Member since: 26 Aug 2013)
Haters gonna hate. Its funny how all the tech writers and tech blogs seems to be the ones so blinkered in their vision and only see "one way". They are so stuck in the android/apple paradigm that they cant appreciate another way of doing this. You'd expect better from this group. So far I haven't had ant legitimate arguments against this device from tech writers - all I get is the sense that "its not made like our other smartphones therefore we hate it".
37. wando77 (Posts: 808; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)
HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA ....... They talk about the premium look and feel of the iphone 6 and then John V goes and sticks it in that case lmao. Pretty sure the note 4 is robust enough to keep out a case and also pretty sure a note 4 without a case is 100x nicer than an iPhone 6 with that case on..... go figure
38. Antman11 (Posts: 8; Member since: 09 Sep 2014)
how does it have lack of app when you have BB store, amazon and you can side load android apps that work Very effectively..people show it on youtube a lot. I wonder how long he had the phone. I am a galaxy note fan and I do like what apple and windows are doing but Let be honest BB has a winner with this phone i cant wait to get my hands on it
41. meanestgenius (Posts: 9672; Member since: 28 May 2014)
Did anyone expect anything less than a BIASED REVIEW by Phonearena?! This handset should have scored MUCH better, but due to the lack of integrity from so called journalists here and on other tech sites, you get BS reviews like this. I bet the reviewer never even used the device for more than a few hours TOPS, and had absolutely ZERO prior experience with a BB10 handset. As usual, PA's journalistic integrity concerning BlackBerry is SORELY LACKING.
I bet my comment will even be moderated or deleted entirely. If so, no surprise there either. They may even try to ban me for this comment. If so, it will just go to show you how right I am about Phonearena.
60. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4273; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
You're completely wrong. John V. also did the Z10 review, and published an article dedicated to the review of BB10; he has had plenty of experience with BB10. Did it ever occur to you that maybe because BB10 devices have had such negative reviews, it's not the fault of the reviewer, but the fault of the device? Such a foreign concept I know, but try to follow along. I've used BB10 briefly, and from my experience it seems like a nice OS. It's designed well, the software keyboard is nice, and it performs well even on lower end hardware. I haven't used the latest update, but I'm sure it has filled in most of the gaps caused by absent software features that were otherwise found on Android and iOS. The app selection isn't the best, but that can be solved by loading Android apps onto it. Software wise, it is a fine OS, and I would choose it over WP any day. I might even choose it over iOS if hardware wasn't a factor, but sadly it is.
Hardware wise, BB10 devices have been sub par. Designs have been good, but I personally am not a fan of the Q10 and Passport form factor, that's just me though. The only practical BB options for most users are the Z10 and Z30 just because of the form factor, but the Z10 has pretty bad battery life, the Z30 is massive (for me), and both have unimpressive cameras. Uniqueness does not equal innovation, that is an important fact. Yes, the Passport and the Q10 are UNIQUE, but the Passport isn't really practical because of its shape (see LG Optimus Vu for comparable Android failure), the Q10 is mainly aimed at legacy BB users, and both aren't really more practical than the standard form factor of smartphones in any way.
65. meanestgenius (Posts: 9672; Member since: 28 May 2014)
And what's "plenty of experience" with BB10? A few hours for a review? A day? Definitely NOT enough time to spend to get to really know an OS.
Did it ever occur to you that the negative reviews about BlackBerry devices ARE from biased "tech" journalist? Such a foreign concept for you, I know, but try to follow along. BB10 is fresh, innovative and fast. Fluid doesn't begin to describe the OS. This is a true marriage of OS and hardware, and since you say you've used BB10 for a while, then you must know that it isn't resource hungry and does not require uber specs to function on par with otherwise uber spec'd devices. The latest version of BB10 only further cements what I've just said. There is absolutely NO WAY that you can say that the hardware on an iPhone is better than the hardware on a BB10 device. Just compare the hardware from the Passport to the iPhone 6 or 6+. The Passport destroys them hardware wise, AND software wise. Things like true-multitasking, a real file manager, and an OS based on a REAL-TIME operating system comes to mind as to what makes BB10 superior to other OS's, IMO.
YOU may not be a PKB enthusiast, but the majority of BlackBerry's targeted audience is, therefore, BlackBerry going with an innovative PKB such as the one on the Passport was/is the right move. Yes, the Z10 does have bad battery life, but so does the iPhone 5s. You are truly NOT a BlackBerry user if you say "the only practical BB options for most users are the Z10 and Z30". You are speaking from the perspective of an iPhone/Android/WP user, as ALL of those devices are full-touch devices. As I said previously, most BlackBerry users prefer the physical keyboard.
Anyone with half a brain knows that "uniqueness doesn't equal innovation", but there is NO WAY that you can say that a PKB that functions as a VKB and a MOUSE is not innovative.
The Z30 is massive for you? Then you must have teeny-tiny hands. I have LARGE, MAN-SIZED hands so a device like the Z30 suits me just fine.
"....but the Passport isn't practical...."
Isn't practical for whom? Do not presume to speak for everyone. The Passport is a perfect fit for me, as, like I previously said, have LARGE MAN-SIZED hands.
You're forgetting that some years back, BlackBerry handsets were "the standard" form factor of smartphones, and that there are still many millions that use there PKB laden BBOS7 devices, waiting to upgrade to another PKB laden BlackBerry device, namely the Classic.
You need to REALLY READ articles from this site and many others that post articles about BlackBerry. If you do, you will NO DOUBT see the bias against BlackBerry in those articles. Phonearena is NO EXCEPTION. And, judging by these comments from our fellow PA users, they tend to agree with me.
91. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4273; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Plenty of experience means multiple days of using each device (the Z10 and Passport) as a daily driver, that gives a good general overview of the OS. John V. has reviewed 2 BB10 devices now, and done a dedicated review of BB10 which has its own article on PA. Also, 3 other authors for PA (Nick, Ray, and Daniel) have all done their own reviews on BB10 devices. So, that's 4 different authors, all having their own distinct view on smartphones, and 5 different devices, all never even scoring an 8. And if you still think PA has some conspiracy against BB10, if we look to Michael Fisher's reviews on Pocketnow, both the Z10 and Q10 score 7/10, and he explicitly states he spent 2 weeks using BB10 before publishing the review, is that enough experience for you?
I've already agreed with everything you said about the software experience of BB10 in my first comment. I know it isn't resource hungry, it's a very nice experience. If Blackberry would just make a flagship device like the Passport into a more conventional form factor, it would definitely be a second choice for me; Android being first and it tying with iOS for second. I do like the iPhone's hardware better than the Passport, just because a rectangle is more comfortable in the hand than a square. Natively, I think iOS is superior to BB10 just because of the app selection. However, if you go outside of BB10 for apps and side load Android apps, it really enhances the experience to surpass iOS.
"You are speaking from the perspective of an iPhone/Android/WP user, as ALL of those devices are full-touch devices. As I said previously, most BlackBerry users prefer the physical keyboard."
The problem with that argument is that Blackberry users are the VERY small minority of smartphone users in the world. The mobile world has shifted towards all touch devices, that's what 90% of the mobile user base is used to. The idea of a physical keyboard is outdated and not even necessary anymore, because most people can type just as fast, if not faster, on a virtual keyboard than on a physical one. Even the enhancements to it in the Passport aren't enough to persuade the world to go back to their state of mind 5 years ago to when physical keyboards were still relevant. That's the truth, and only the hardcore Blackberry loyalists say otherwise.
I think I have pretty average sized hands for a guy. They aren't the biggest, but definitely not tiny either. A device with a 4.5-4.7" screen and smallish bezels is just right for me.
I know I don't speak for everyone when I say the Passport isn't practical, but I do speak for the vast majority of consumers. It's just too square to be comfortable. If the Passport was just more rectangular like the Q10, I probably would order one, or at least not laugh when I see people try to hold it. If it had the same style as the Z10, full touch and all, I would definitely buy one if it came to Verizon and keep it as a backup phone.
106. meanestgenius (Posts: 9672; Member since: 28 May 2014)
First: If they all never even scored an 8 and it's from four DIFFERENT authors that all basically had the SAME THING to say about BB10 devices that they reviewed from the SAME "tech" site, I'd say that there is something amiss here, but maybe that's just me. Why you would believe that these authors on here, or any other tech site, would be incapable of writing a BIASED article about a certain manufacturer is beyond me. If you pay attention to these so called tech journalist, they all RECYCLE the same thing. Therefore, BIAS.
I don't base my like or dislike of hardware on "conventional". I base my liking of hardware on what it can do in terms of how well it gels with the software, screen, camera, how well built it is, battery life, etc. The Passport is SUPERIOR to the iPhone in those aspects. I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree on that point. BB10 is SUPERIOR to iOS in terms of WHAT IT CAN DO, and how VERSATILE it is. App selection be damned. I say this because of the multitasking, how power efficient BB10 is, how smooth and fast it is, things like BlackBerry Hub and Blend, etc. As you said, throw in the Android apps(I have 4 Android app stores on my Z30 and Q10), and BB10 blows iOS out of the water. That's not even mentioning "Snap", which gives me access to all of my Google PlayStore apps.
BlackBerry's INSTALLED base is HUGE, ESPECIALLY when you factor in governments, enterprise and regulated industries, which has BlackBerry's LARGEST installed base. These are the people that actually PREFER a PKB, as opposed to a VKB. This is who BlackBerry is primarily selling devices to. I can type MUCH more accurately on a PKB, no AUTO-CORRECT needed, as you would with a VKB. Most of BlackBerry's clientele would agree with that assessment, which is why BlackBerry is focusing on the PKB devices. You have to leave the consumer "mindset" at the door when referring to BlackBerry and who they are selling their devices to primarily.
Again, the Passport is NOT AIMED at consumers. John Chen has said this on NUMEROUS OCCASIONS, and yet consumers like you can't seem to grasp this fact. BlackBerry has a "consumer oriented" device. It's called the Z3. Their other devices are aimed squarely at enterprise and regulated industries. When judging a device like the Passport, you have must keep that in mind and judge it based off of that criteria, or you are not judging it fairly. I don't have any problem holding and typing on a 7 inch tablet comfortably when held in a vertical position. I know many who do not have an issue with that as well, therefore, there shouldn't be a problem holding and typing on the Passport.
|Display||4.5 inches, 1440 x 1440 pixels (453 ppi) IPS LCD|
Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 8974-AA, Quad-core, 2200 MHz, Krait 400 processor
3.0 GB RAM
|Size||5.04 x 3.56 x 0.37 inches|
(128 x 90.3 x 9.3 mm)
6.91 oz (196 g)
|Battery||3450 mAh, 18 hours talk time|