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Samsung copied Apple says Apple expert witness

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Samsung copied Apple says Apple expert witness
As the second week of the Apple-Samsung patent trial kicked off, Apple brought an expert witness to the stand whose testimony bolstered Apple's case. Associate University of Pennsylvania professor Peter Bressler, called by Apple to the stand as an expert witness on design, testified that the Samsung Galaxy S handset infringed on a pair of Apple's design patents. Bressler, who owns his own design firm, said that Samsung's device shared a rectangular front with the Apple iPhone along with other design features such as its transparency, black color, a display centered on the face of the phone, and a lozenge-shaped slot for the speaker.

The expert witness also ripped apart Samsung's claim that a prior patent for the design proved Prior Art. Bressler said that there were too many differences between the two patents for Samsung to make that claim. Bressler had more than a dozen different variations of the Samsung Galaxy S in front of him and told the jury that all of them infringed on the design patents held by Apple covering the design for the face of the iPhone. Bressler also testified that the Samsung GALAXY Note and the Samsung GALAXY Tab both infringed on design patents for the Apple iPad and said the biggest difference between the three devices is the color used on the back of each model.

The Samsung Galaxy S

The Samsung Galaxy S

On cross-examinaton, Samsung tried to show the differences between its products and Apple's including a raised bezel seen on some Samsung models, and the difference in the radius of Samsung phone's rounded corners compared with the devices produced by the Cupertino based tech giant. During cross, Samsung attorneys showed Bressler old design patents and had him go through the similarities to Apple's design patents. All of the models are rectangular with big screens and some have lozenge shaped earpieces. All of the models have similarly sized borders. The goal is to show the jury that there were older patents that covered the same design as the Apple iPhone.

The witness ended up telling the jury that Samsung's analysis is incorrect as he held to his premise that consumers get the same impressions looking at Apple's products and the devices from the Samsung Galaxy line. Next up will be former Apple designer Susan Kare, famous for designing the "Happy Mac" logo. Ms. Kare is expected to testify that the UI on the Apple iPhone is a unique solution to the problem of building a smartphone UI and that Samsung copied it for their own phones.

source: Forbes

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posted on 06 Aug 2012, 18:46 42

1. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)

The Galaxy Note infringes on iPad design patents? Are you fu--ing kidding me? You'd have to be stupid to fall for that!

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 19:12 32

12. a1000smiles4u (Posts: 84; Member since: 24 Apr 2012)

@Alan F.
change the title from expert witness to PAID WITNESS
Galaxy note infringes IPad design :o
either he was high while making the statement or Apple showed him the original NOTE with apple logo

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 19:51 12

22. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)

The galaxy note is black and rectangular thats enough for Apple. I just noticed by onyko speaker system remote control next to me is also black and rectangular and now i worry for the company as they too much clearly have copied apple!!

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 20:04 16

25. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Alright, the Original Galaxy S Smartphone did have some similar resemblances with the Apple iPhone, but to say that the future generations of the Galaxy S line copies Apple is absurd.

It's like a grandson being punished by his grandfather's enemies 50 years later.

. . . and the UI is quite different from iOS.

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 20:21 20

30. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)

You see the problem is that Samsung Galaxy S doesn't pose a threat for Apple but Samsung Galaxy S III does.

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 20:59 3

39. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

These are apple's witnesses who would be coached on what say and not to say. Samsung will have their own. This isn't anything unusual.or definitive. The cross-examination seems well done, pointing out Samsung's point on its strategy to invalidate apple's overly broad patents

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 21:11 5

43. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 13625; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)

How is that stupid? Samsung copied many of Apple's designs and patents. It was apparently enough for Google to step in and warn Samsung not to do it any further.

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 21:37 10

48. matrix_neo (Posts: 334; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)

If companies ideas and design was patented before apple steals it, apple will never reach its status today...

Don't ask what are those, you obviously knew it but so blind to accept it.

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 23:23 1

72. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

Apple steals ideas, since no one can have a monoploy on ideas. There lies the defect in the android fanboy camp.

That is why we have patents -- to build better mousetraps. If The idea is a mousetrap, then anyone can file new patents on mousetraps.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 03:21 4

83. tedkord (Posts: 11986; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Yes, but if the idea existed prior or is obvious, then the patent is invalid. Therein lies the defect in the iOS fanboy camp.

We now know that not only Samsung, but Sony were working on similar designs. LG already had one in the public.So not only did the rounded corner rectangle with minimal button exist prior, it was obvious evolution of the market, based on the fact that so many were already working on it.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 19:35

103. jroc74 (Posts: 6014; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

Thats all I needed to read.

This case is becoming a joke. Seriously.

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 10:23

118. MobileKicker (Posts: 212; Member since: 19 Sep 2013)

Smurf, samsung copied
Don't start a comment fight

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 18:47 36

2. MeoCao (unregistered)

This witness is obviously paid by Apple.

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 21:10 2

42. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 13625; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)

Nothing more than a biased claim. You can't prove anything about the witness being paid.

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 21:33 3

46. matrix_neo (Posts: 334; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)

Words speak louder than actions LOL

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 22:01 4

52. smartphone (Posts: 160; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)

May be he was not paid but he says stupid things, how can you accuse someone on using a shape( rectangle ) and colour (black) that people has been using for thousands of years.

The US patent office is stupid to give patent for such things.
Read the case about patent of using turmeric and neem in medicine.

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 22:22 5

58. MeoCao (unregistered)

Haha, 75k up to now. Need a proof?

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 03:24 5

84. tedkord (Posts: 11986; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Wow, for $75G, I'll lie through my teeth and claim that I believe Samsung copied Apple.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 07:11 1

91. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 13625; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)

Except it's not a lie.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 07:13 1

92. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 13625; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)

You obviously know nothing about how court trials work. That doesn't prove anything other than bias against Apple.

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 21:44 10

49. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

Per the testimony of the witness under oath, he is being paid $400 per hour for his testimony, and has so far made about $75K.

Here's a link:http://www.siliconvalley.com/ci_21230320/live-blog-apple-samsung-patent-trial-monday-830?source=most_viewed

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 23:15 4

67. willard12 (Posts: 1708; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)

Wow, too bad this minor detail didn't make it into the article. IPhone users pay a 70% markup on a 4Gless phone in order to allow apple to pay $400 an hour to a guy to say the Infuse 4g copies the iPhone.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 19:38

104. jroc74 (Posts: 6014; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

Damn!! $400 an hour?

What in the world does he do for a living that justifies this rate??

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 18:48 25

3. ajac09 (Posts: 1481; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

and next tell us how much he was paid

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 18:51 35

4. Orbitman (Posts: 110; Member since: 09 Oct 2011)

they brought in an "expert" to identify a black rectangle with a centered display?

smh -__-

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 18:53 13

5. Angkor (Posts: 108; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)

Apple expert is standing on Apple side, Samsung can't win this case "looks and feels" similarity all phone makers copied Apple designed. Apple copied and patented designed from STAR TREK.

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 18:54 8

6. rockstarlive (Posts: 307; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

But what about the Samsung, Galaxy Spica, The Behold, The pixon, The Wave, how about the GSM phones, its just too much focus on the current Galaxy phones.

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 21:57 3

50. frydaexiii (Posts: 1459; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

Even the current Galaxy S3 is looking more like one of it's classic designs, curved, not uniformed shaped home button. The only phone that actually looks remotely like the iPhone is the first Galaxy S, other than that Apple just being whiny that people are actually buying Samsung's products instead of theirs.

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 18:54 13

7. shuaibhere (Posts: 1986; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)

is he a professor????

wat did he found unique in rectangular flat display,black colour and face centred display.....

i dono how mad he gonna make his students????
so pity of them.....

posted on 06 Aug 2012, 19:01 4

8. jaoowolabi (Posts: 201; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)

Here comes all the Butthurt!

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