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Samsung Galaxy Note 3's 5.7-inch screen leaks in high-res photos

Posted: , by Chris P.


Samsung Galaxy Note 3's 5.7-inch screen leaks in high-res photos

UPDATE: We've added two snaps comparing the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with its predecessor, the Galaxy Note 2.

Nobody can deny that Samsung's Galaxy Note 3 has received its fair share of coverage, even though, as far as the South Korean company is concerned, keeping things a surprise would have been preferable. Unfortunately for Samsung, it would appear that secrecy has become an increasingly elusive target these days.

With IFA 2013 just around the corner, leaks are becoming more and more informative in their nature and appeal, but one thing has been missing. Namely, while we think we know plenty about the Samsung Galaxy Note 3, the looks of the device itself have been the one area where Samsung has managed to keep the lid firmly shut – prototype devices have been plentiful, but we haven't seen the actual device just yet. Today, this has changed at least partially, for a new set of images, sourced from somewhere within Samsung's supply chain in China, we suppose, claim to be showing us the screen that will come packed in the fully assembled Galaxy Note 3.

Looking at the screen, we're happy to report that the bezels have shrunken considerably in size from all directions in comparison with the Samsung Galaxy Note 3's predecessor. What's more, while we can't tell exactly how the device will end up looking with the frames attached, it does seem like the Note 3 will be more rectangular in shape, with less pronounced rounding at the corners. Of course, this is still every bit the Galaxy design language that we've come to expect from Sammy.

Obviously, as plausible as these may look, we'd suggest you hold on just a little longer before jumping to any conclusions.

source: ETrade Supply

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posted on 27 Aug 2013, 09:52 19

1. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 2075; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)

Buttons on thin bezels, I like that.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 10:31 31

26. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4814; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)

Ok if this indeed turns out to be the REAL deal then I am a bit disappointed. Samsung better make up for it with something truly special because right now based on the leak the HTC One Max & the Sony Xperia Z1 look better.

Both the Samsung Galaxy Note III & the HTC One Max will have the same Qualcomm chipset (here in the US) so we can't talk about raw power as a differentiator. BUT we can talk about looks as a differentiator & based on the leak the HTC One Max wins there.

Also the Sony Xperia Z1 has to be considered even though it's only a 5 inch screen, because the Triluminos display is WIDELY considered better that the Super AMOLED Samsung makes. Also the Xperia Z1 has the SICK 20MP camera with the G sensor. Let's not forget that the Sony is also dust & water proof IP 55/58. Ohh I forgot to mention the Sony has the same chipset here also.

So Samsung really has to deliver in terms of features to offset it's looks because if Samsung doesn't offer anything else, then why would anyone get an uglier phone when there are WAY better looking phones like the HTC One Max & the Sony Xperia Z1 that are JUST as powerful as the bland/average looking Samsung Galaxy note III?

I really want the Samsung Galaxy Note III but if it doesn't have anything that truly distinguishes it from the others then I am going for the better looking device & like I said, Samsung is not winning anything based on looks & looks alone.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 10:39 25

28. piyath (Posts: 180; Member since: 23 Mar 2012)

please go.
Who cares..

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 10:48 14

33. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4814; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)

Really.... that is what you are going to write? Why even take the time to type that? lol

How about YOU go & STOP clogging up the comments sections with your pointless "Who cares.." comments.

I care & that is why I posted, just like YOU care because you took the time to post. lol

Children these days....

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 15:07

73. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)

When they all out in the market, let we see which of that handset will people patronizing,

posted on 01 Sep 2013, 15:56

106. adoptop70 (Posts: 20; Member since: 29 Apr 2013)

Nobody can compromise the note 3,the functionality of S pen is what will trigger the admiration of peiple over the rest contenders.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 23:10

93. yogesh19841984 (Posts: 4; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)

who cares what they have to to release. whether it is sony or Samsung. as they are making fool people for releasing heavy specs handset, but not at all quality. htc definetly make better handset than Samsung. but I always prefer iphone

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 10:40 18

29. Topcat488 (Posts: 1394; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)

I can agree with what you have written... But Samsungs' S-Pen is the straw the breaks the other OEM's Backs.!. With its "features" it kills.

It's so good (the S-Pen), it has its own apartment in the phone...

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 10:42 15

30. Kurai (unregistered)

the Z Ultra doesn't need sh*tty stylus

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 11:32 11

44. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)

What it needs is better US carrier support. The Note 3 will automatically kill the sony brand by just being available. What good are Sony phones if I can't buy them on Verizon?

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 18:08 4

86. mega20913 (Posts: 14; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)

I totally agree..what good will an Xperia Z Ultra do for you if you can't get it anywhere? How many people are going to pay full retail price to have one imported? In my book the Note 3 wins just based on availability

posted on 28 Aug 2013, 00:01 1

97. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

IF the Z Ultra had a superior camera offering and was available on VZW, I would pay full retail. But it won't and so I won't.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 11:32 2

45. jacko1977 (Posts: 428; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)

just a crappy screen as the xperia z had

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 13:02 4

65. amansingal14 (Posts: 309; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)

I beg to differ. Xperia ZU has the best screen of all the smart phones right now. It looks more close to nature than what any other smartphone can produce, all while being able to change the display mode to be like Samsung screen - oversaturated and vivid.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 16:05 2

81. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)

You won't be saying that after all those Sony lcd's drop dead; just like on their laptops.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 10:44 10

31. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4814; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)

There is a poll you can look up in Google that says most people who own a Samsung Galaxy Note & Note II don't ever use the S-Pen after the novelty stops.

So I really don't thing the S-Pen is that big of a deal anymore.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 11:00 17

36. MobileCaseReview (Posts: 242; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)

I'm a note 1 and note 2 user. I never use the stylus at all.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 11:04 5

37. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4814; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)

Thank you. :-)


posted on 27 Aug 2013, 11:06

39. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1717; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

I only use it for Draw Something, which I rarely play as it is lol

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 14:03 5

72. gust3r3u (Posts: 84; Member since: 11 Apr 2013)

it is called THE NOTE , take some fkin notes with a pen or do not buy , simple

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 21:38 4

89. ProblemSolver15 (Posts: 282; Member since: 14 Jun 2010)

Well, polls are polls. I am a Note 2 user on Verizon and I will be the first to tell you that I use my S Pen very frequently. The phones that I am interested in are the Moto X, DROID Maxx, Note 3, One Maxx, and LG G2. I just love phones and have to have the latest. So, I'm willing to sit back and see what Samsung and HTC bestow upon us. This is all fun to me, guys.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 15:16 5

74. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)

Don't get me wrong, but the s pen is one of the big reason to wait the gnote3 than other phablet.

posted on 28 Aug 2013, 07:47 2

103. nobelset (Posts: 270; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)

Wow, then that spoils one of the purposes of a note doesn't it? I use to jot down notes, etc.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 11:08 23

40. McLTE (Posts: 809; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


I LOVE my Note 2. Why? because of what it can DO, not what it looks like. For the record, I don't mind at all how it looks either.

I have played with the One and, I don't like it. I don't like the curved back and I don't care at all about the cold feeling aluminum unibody. I'll take my removable battery and SD card slot any day!

I think it's pretty safe to assume the Note 3 will look like a bigger S4. What's so bad about that? It's not a terrible looking phone either. I don't sit and stare at my phone all day, I USE it. My Note 2 hasn't failed me, and I don't see the Note 3's design being a problem either.

yes, I'd like Samsung to ditch the glossy finish, but aside from that, I love the weight and how the phone handles. I am NOT interested in a bigger heavier One.

I haven't looked at the Sony's yet, though they do look nice. I do really like that the Sony is dust and water resistant - though that's not a major issue for me.

Actually, I'd like for Samsung to deliver the Note 3 with a few LESS of the gimmicky software features.

You're going to probably put it in a case, so the design is even less of an issue.

In looking at these pics of the screen, it's better than the Note2 in every way, and I was perfectly happy with it.. can't wait for the Note 3.


posted on 27 Aug 2013, 11:45 12

50. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3722; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)

Agree with pretty much everything you said here. +1000.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 13:19 3

67. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4814; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)

You have your opinion & I have mine.

I use my phone like you do but I do care of how it looks. Do you shop just for clothing just because it works or do you care about what your clothing looks like?

Also a car, yes a car drives but do you care what it looks like? Maybe you like to drive junkyard cars.

Hey to each is own.

+1 to you.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 12:15 8

60. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)

First the Z1 isn't even in the same category and 2nd, everybody except Nokia and Sony fans are PERFECTLY fine with iphone and GS4 level cameras. They will take no humps or have it a few mm thinner rather than have a 20.1 mp camera that will most likely be quite noisy since 13mp is already too many pixels for compact camera sensors, let alone phone camera sensors.

Third, it seems like the GN 3 has already won since it beats the pants off of the competition in the most important area. Samsung knows how to ride the size limits perfectly.The Note 1/Note 2 size is pretty much the absolute size that most are willing to take, that is why it was somehow a success when everybody thought it would bomb. And yes the Galaxy Mega and Xperia Ultra Z will bomb hard based on their size.

You better believe a full HD 5.7 inch Note 3 the same size as the Note 2 is a lot more appealing than say an HTC Maxx/Xperia Z ultra that is almost the same size as a Nexus 7. Really. the boom sound speakers and all these BS 20mp cameras is simply not worth the added size and Samsung won't implement them into the Note series until it is feasible without making the device too big or they won't add a really horrible looking Nokia 1020 hump until it is possible without the horrible hump.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 13:07 2

66. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4814; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)

I made it PERFECTLY CLEAR that the Xperia Z1 is not in the same category. It is in the same category of BEST phones available this fall though.

Also if you REALLY think that the HTC One Max & the Xperia Z Ultra are "almost the same size as a Nexus 7" really makes me question the validity of your comment.

The Boom Sound speakers are REASON enough to pick the HTC One Max over the Samsung Galaxy Note III if the Galaxy Note III has nothing more to offer, especially after that bland as a potato leak PhoneArena just showed. I take it you have NEVER used a HTC One….right? So you comment on something you clearly know nothing about. If you have heard a HTC One you would never say what you said. I bet the Samsung Galaxy S V will have front facing speakers! What do you say?

Another thing if size really matters why are you even looking at the Note series? The Note II is already not usable with one hand so what is the difference if the HTC One Max/Sony Xperia Z Ultra are slightly bigger than the Note II? All 3 are unwieldy with one hand & a pain in the a$$ to put comfortably in your pocket. Talking about size is silly in that category unless you are talking about screen size. Really?

What the hell are you talking about noise?!? So a 20MP camera is more noisy than a 13MP camera? So that makes or breaks a phone in your book? How many decibels louder is 20MP over 13MP? Please enlighten me. Also Sony's Xperia Z1's 20MP camera HAS NO HUMP, so wat u taking about Willis?!? lol

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 15:44 5

77. AnTuTu (Posts: 1578; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)

Oh just get the hell outa here SuperAndroidEvo no 1 gives a f*****k what you are saying here.

People are going to by the beast Note 3 no matter how you are convincing them to buy other phablets or phones.

"Another thing if size really matters why are you even looking at the Note series? The Note II is already not usable with one hand so what is the difference if the HTC One Max/Sony Xperia Z Ultra are slightly bigger than the Note II"

Are you freaking kidding me??????? Ultra comes in tablets category not phablet ahahahahahahha

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 17:16 4

83. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)

I have used the HTC One extensively actually. I havent used a Nokia 1020 nor do I want to though. And yes, the boom sound is not worth the extra size at all in anyway whatsoever for my uses. Funny how you morons assume that no one can disagree with your opinions and when you do, somehow you must have never used the product. Please....

I am not even looking at the Note series, I might not even buy the Nexus 5 if it's bigger than the LG G2.

There goes your opinion when you say the Xperia Ultra Z is only slightly bigger than the Note 2. That thing is HUGE. And the the HTC Maxx is obvioulsy going to be huge with metal and speakers. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that.

As for the camera technology. Seriously, go get some more knowledge before you even comment. It is a commonly known fact that images are noisier when you cram a lot of megapixels onto a small sensor. You read reviews all the time where a 13mp update of an 8mp camera produces noisy images because the mp size has increased but the sensor size hasn't. And phone camera sensors are even smaller than compacts.

Please, go read a bit more about technology before you even talk to me. Amazing how moronic some people are.

As for the Xperia Z1, it is 8.3mm instead of the sleek 7.9mm Xperia Z because of the camera. Like I said, not worth it. Try reading sometime. I mentioned the hump for the 1020 and increase in thickness for the Z1.

Reading comprehension, you should learn it.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 13:19 5

68. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1119; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

And everyone gets onto me for long comments, haha.

I agree that I believe Samsung should've designed the Note differently, but these are still just leaks so I am going to hold my tongue until the announcement.

If Samsung misses the mark with the Note III then that is potentially a great thing to happen. It will mean Samsung will finally listen and work harder for their next iteration of the Note. I mean when you are the top brand there is some cockiness that goes along with it. Samsung is starting to get a little cocky and think that anyone will buy their products no matter if it's just an incremental upgrade or not (sound like some other brand you know?). So, I'm glad the competition is shaping up to be as good as they are. It means that we will have an even better crop of smartphones for next year.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 13:25 1

70. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4814; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)

Thank you for agreeing with me.

Samsung has STIFF competition & I for one will look elsewhere is Samsung drops a sub-par Galaxy Note III when there are BETTER looking devices that are JUST as powerful.

Thank you for the voice of reason Dr. Phil. lol

+1 to the doctor

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 15:48 6

78. AnTuTu (Posts: 1578; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)

Who gonna compete with the beast ????

Ultra or Maxx??? They are tablets not phablets mate and what Sony or HTC has to offer in their devices???

A custom UI?? Anything else??? They don't even have a single software feature which can compete with a single Note category device. So rather than typing long comments just shut the fraq up and do some research.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 21:59 1

90. ShenAlJoker (Posts: 113; Member since: 19 Jul 2013)

Who do u think is gonna read your essays pal?

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 23:11 1

94. AnTuTu (Posts: 1578; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)

3 thumbs up tell you the story mate :)

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 23:50

95. TruPatriot (Posts: 110; Member since: 27 May 2013)

You're a tool for flipping out about the looks before even seeing the full device.

posted on 28 Aug 2013, 02:40 1

99. jromy (Posts: 114; Member since: 26 Feb 2013)

But the Note series as a whole have what you failed to mention. The S-Pen takes the phone to a different level (for those that actually use it) in functionality.

posted on 03 Sep 2013, 11:01

107. artealis (Posts: 98; Member since: 15 Dec 2010)

so we can't talk about raw power as a differentiator.
but we can talk about external storage, if HTC one max just like oversized htc one with no sdcard, it is a differentiator.
you can talk about the camera too, everyone really happy with ultrapixel camera right? for printing?? thats also a differentiator.
another software things that very usefull in large screen device is... multiwindow, HTC max have multi window?? now you can port LINE messenger, viber, skype, ym on samsung multiwindow, HTC max can do that? and it is not the main differentiator?

Triluminos display is WIDELY considered better that the Super AMOLED Samsung makes. well there is only one triluminos phone and it is not even better than LCD3 or LG HD IPS LCD, and suddenly WIDELY considered better??
sick 20MP camera and G sensor? do you ever seen one xperia device that have better camera more than ipon or sgs3/4 or LG G2?? they use the same camera module made by sony. so no one know for user the 20MP camera gonna SICK or flop yet.
lets forget sony ip55 dust proof and water proof, my xperia GO died with water in it and sony service center charged me 200dollar for one month old xperia GO. water proof its a gimmick not provable feature.

uglier but more functional, it takes NOTE. its not a phone to show off to your friends. bisnis tools, functional smartphone.
samsung already winning alot of things, like more sensors in the smarphone, put alot function like multiwindow for multitasking, you can draw, writing, swipe your phone using gesture without the touchscreen on. its all the features that matters most not like some girl trying to be sexy with beautiful make up and cloth.
dont like it than dont buy it, thats simple

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 15:37 7

76. AnTuTu (Posts: 1578; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)

What a beauty Sammy just bring it on.

Haters gonna hate because they don't have much to say hahahah

Best on its way guys :)

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 09:53 5

2. Credo (Posts: 747; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)

Same boring design .... But this is a beast !

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 10:06 27

11. appleDOESNT.com (banned) (Posts: 456; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)

ok genius, you tell us how to un-boring that? It has a HUGE screen with small bezels, in fact, that is about what I consider perfect for bezels.

or maybe you prefer the exciting yearly incremental iPhone approach, small screens with large bezels? ;)

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 10:19 5

16. Credo (Posts: 747; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)

No, i also prefer big screens but i'm sure that this will just be a bigger Galaxy S4, personally Samsung is boring the **** out of me with their designs .... altrough the good point about these device's is their small bezels :)

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 10:35 4

27. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

Lot less rounded than the S4, but the rounded is good cause it's comfortable (HTC One is rounded, iPhones too), glossy plastic - that's the problem. Kevlar or anything more solid with a matte finish is still the way to go, Sammy should learn, cause otherwise all is good.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 10:56 1

35. Commentator (Posts: 3669; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)

iPhones haven't been rounded in any way that promotes comfort since the iPhone 3GS.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 10:51 6

34. sats.mine2k4 (banned) (Posts: 208; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)

Dude, can't u judge by his logo that he is a windows fan boy.... he wants it to have 6 inch front with 4.5 inch screen like all nokia's and weigh like 300 grams then he will probably like it...

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 12:57 5

62. heyhi (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Feb 2013)

i think its ok man...when i saw the Note 2 in pics i thought it was boring too, but in person looked nice...wait untill you see it in person, im not gonna buy it though...
and they build it thinking about productivity, so the ergonomics must be good...if i had to choose between a PHABLET, i would go for it and not Sony or HTC because of the S pen and the materials. Its gonna be lighter than the other 2 because of the polycarbonate, maybe not the most beautiful, but most practical, i mean size, features, specs and weight, MAYBE, just my opinion.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 13:21 1

69. james004 (Posts: 486; Member since: 15 May 2013)

so was the last one

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 22:09

91. Daftama (Posts: 619; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)

They should really make another line up and call it the beast 10core 1080p 5800mh battery 5.5 52mp front 13mp has micro cd not SD cd slot hdmi wait I sound like the rest of retards design.... They change design every 2years now if you haven't notice it.. Wait till S5 N4 comes design will be different than..

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 09:54 2

3. newbey123 (Posts: 556; Member since: 19 Mar 2012)

Granted the design is boring, but that is to be expected. I was between this and One Max, but since specs are pretty much identical, I have decided to get the One Max since I prefer the build quality.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 11:52 5

53. iushnt (Posts: 1579; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)

i think this will be stronger than one max. Using aluminum doesn't improve the build quality

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 11:58

54. newbey123 (Posts: 556; Member since: 19 Mar 2012)

I have played with the S4 and One and the note and Max will be made out of the same material as their smaller counterparts. The One felt stronger and better when using. Therefore, going with the Max as I determined the quality and build was overall better. Good that people will have choice to fit their taste.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 09:54 5

4. Marienx (Posts: 61; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)

Same, Same, Same.. By this time ppl shouldn't be looking forward this phone knowing its the same s!@#$ all over again looks wise. Your save option is the HTC One Maxx. I believe 100% it will come with a stylus.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 10:05 16

9. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

HTC ONE MAXX looks the same as the ONE so don't buy the same phone over over if u don't like it

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 10:06 5

10. rd_nest (Posts: 1593; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)

When you "believe" in something, you don't believe anything less than 100%. You can never "believe" 79%. It's not a belief in that scenario. If your belief is less than 100%, it constitutes a "doubt".

So, saying you "believe 100%" is redundant.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 11:49

52. ahhxd717 (Posts: 332; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)

Jesus Christ, I wasn't aware this was a semantics forum. So freakin analytical. Get over yourself. You're really not making yourself sound smart if that's what you're trying to do.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 12:03

55. McLTE (Posts: 809; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

Actually Mr semantics, that's not entirely true.

What you aren't getting is the posters inflection and tone, which doesn't come across in print.

I can answer someone's question by saying "I believe so!" and it's IMPLIED to be a 100% belief.

Or, I can answer the same question in a different tone "I believe so" by dragging out the length of saying "I" and it suddenly doesn't seem 100%, more like.. 79!

His use of believing 100% is merely his way of ensuring his readers are 100% clear about his meaning.. see, like I just said "100% clear"

Furthermore, believing less than 100% doesn't constitute a doubt. It's more like a partial belief. Saying you believe in something typically has a positive connotation on something.. doubt is a negative.


Quit being a d-bag. You know what the guys was saying.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 09:55 12

5. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)

I hate to say this, but, the front looks kinda great. Look at those thin bezels!

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 10:08 8

13. rd_nest (Posts: 1593; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)

Why should you "hate" to say good about anything? It's not like you are doing something bad.

There is no "perfect" gadget, every thing has good and not-so-good sides.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 10:20 10

17. pwnarena (Posts: 1129; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)

read his name. he's betraying the sony fanboys club.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 10:26

21. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)

^THIS is most the stupid comment I've ever seen.
The "xperia" on my name is because my first smartphone was a Sony smartphone, not because I'm from a Sony fanboys club.

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