New preliminary HTC M8 (One 2) specs don't paint an exciting picture
HTC might officially introduce the new device in February, but this remains to be confirmed. Until then, the latest bits of info regarding the HTC M8 come from @evleaks, and seem to reaffirm that the smartphone won’t be as exciting as other rumored high-end handsets expected to be unleashed in 2014.
As things stand now, it appears that the M8 / One 2 will feature a 5-inch 1080p display, Android 4.4 KitKat with Sense 6.0 UI, a 2.1MP front-facing camera, an UltraPixel camera on the back, 2GB of RAM, and a quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM-8974 processor (apparently the 8974-AB model, if we’re to believe a previously leaked benchmark). All this doesn’t really make a strong impression - not when we’re looking at the features of the original HTC One, Quad HD (1440 x 2560 pixels) flagships with 64-bit processors for 2014.
But perhaps HTC has some aces hidden up its sleeve? After all, a great smartphone doesn’t necessarily have to offer the highest display resolution, and neither a power-hungry processor. Who knows, maybe Sense 6.0 will be the best UI ever - and that could make the M8 a hit. What do you think, can HTC be successful with this new handset, even if its features are the ones rumored until now?
1. PapaSmurf (Posts: 6590; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Ditch UltraPixel and you might actually have a chance HTC.
2. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 306; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
If it's 8MP, then it can be really good
16. Birds (Posts: 927; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
I seriously think it'll be four... I'm the biggest symbolic HTC fan here but I gotta call a spade a spade...HTC doesn't have a backing so they'll have to cut corners a bit somewhere. I will admit that for the past 2 years, they've been very good at optimizing software. The 2300 MaH battery on the HTC one lasted a decent amount of time compared to what I've seen of the 2600 MaH batter in the GSIV.... Still, neither are anything to write home about.
The camera on the HTC One wasn't terrible, just let down by its resolve. True, megapixels don't always matter but when you are limited by sensor size and aperture size, pixels do matter quite a bit, as Nokia can tell you from their Lumia 1020 and 1520.... Hopefully, HTC can pull a miracle out their ass and increase the pixel size and sensor size, and bump up the resolution to at least 8 megapixels. On top of that, they gotta be smart with their software algorithms running atop the camera. Their images tend to be over-sharpened, and over exposed with faulty unrealistic reds, over saturated greens and muddy blues.
24. Commentator (Posts: 2166; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
HTC lost a lot of my respect (and my de facto brand-loyalty) with the One max. Instead of being an innovative new device, the One max came off as a desperate reaction to both the iPhone 5s and the Galaxy Note series, and failed on both counts: the fingerprint scanner is woefully inadequate, and it has virtually no functionality as a phablet, making it nothing more than an awkwardly-large smartphone.
I wish for their sake that they are able to pull off that miracle, but based on their most recent showings, I don't have much hope. There's only so much one little company can do against massive companies like Samsung, Apple, LG, and Microsoft.
40. belovedson (Posts: 821; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
the max was a mistake, however, htc have been making a lot less mistakes in the past. remember the droid, incredible lte, dna, evo lte, and other random bits of phone. one having one strength over another
i really like what htc has been doing. i really like the htc one. the only thing i recommend is placing the home button on the right side or copy lg and double click to awake option. if they can shrink the bezzle and increase the screen that can be an option too. i don't see the need for 2k resolution. 4k i can see the benefits.
41. Commentator (Posts: 2166; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
The problem is HTC has an insanely-thin margin for error. If Samsung or Apple releases a flop, they suck it up and move on. HTC can no longer afford to do so. Even a great phone like the One isn't cutting it against the competition, sales-wise. I just can't see them being a major player going forward.
50. Kishin (Posts: 537; Member since: 30 May 2013)
Its a new year and they can always improve, HTC one was the the start and it was a big hit in 2013 not the best selling, but the fast updates and killer design. I can say HTC deserves more credits than its getting.
18. downphoenix (Posts: 2229; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
1) Actually release this a good time before Samsung releases the S5. Not 2 weeks before, more like 2 months before, at least.
2) Make the camera not suck.
3) Don't call it the Htc One Two. Or Htc Two. Or HTC followed by any number that isnt at least 4 digits long.
4) Removeable battery and micro sd slot.
46. giani (Posts: 244; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)
First of all...what is "preliminary specs" ?! no clue..Second.. going back to the Htc One...no one (right ?!) had a clue on design or spec until 10 20 min before release... soo let's just chill out everyone ?! As for HTCs well beeing I'm very confident that there are still consumers out there with at least half a brain that they know what a good product means and is...and no it's not just apples and samsungs. As for the camera...I find the Ones camera mo're than perfect with the low light being a good trade off for mega pixels. Yes I would like to see an improvement and I'm sure there will be....but that doesn't mean it needs 80mp.
47. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4588; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Qualcomm's Snapdragon page on Wikipedia shows that HTC One 2 will be using Snapdragon 805 (8084):
3. Sauce (limited) (Posts: 1054; Member since: 28 Apr 2013)
Maybe they are relying on everyone's praise and cheer of their flagship design to sell the phone. Hey, it works lol. Most consumers aren't paper-statistic hungry.
4. ihavenoname (Posts: 951; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)
If these specs are true (I doubt), this is quite a letdown from HTC. These specs are good, but not top notch 2014 flagship specs. But maybe they have other suprises, like software.
5. DKMDROID (Posts: 102; Member since: 09 Aug 2011)
yeah of course they can maybe im over exaggerating here but other flagships for this year are going to be dropping like flies because they have to power so many pixels 1080p for me is fine for now and i like the way HTC is going with this maybe its a more iPhone/Moto X approach where they are going to be focusing on usability rather than out right specs and i was hoping that this would ship with a SnapDragon 805? im sure this chipset will power most 2014 flagships until the next iteration of SnapDragon is announced
17. true1984 (Posts: 460; Member since: 23 May 2012)
That is the SD805 if it is the MSM8974AB. so it should be good
37. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3642; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
The MSM8974-AB is still the S800, just with a higher clocked GPU and faster memory.
7. Chris_Bakke (Posts: 172; Member since: 23 Jan 2013)
That all sounds absolutely fantastic! If it were last year. Another rough year for HTC ahead if this continues.
8. HASHTAG (unregistered)
You people are never happy.
11. Chris_Bakke (Posts: 172; Member since: 23 Jan 2013)
Technophiles have an insatiable appetite. We crave more and better all the time.
9. santy (Posts: 32; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)
Need removable battery and micro sd slot to consider HTC.
12. outlawog (Posts: 43; Member since: 27 Nov 2013)
How stupid can HTC's Research and Development get? Coming from an HTC Fan.
13. Kishin (Posts: 537; Member since: 30 May 2013)
M8 or iPhone 6 because i do not see the point of 1440x2560 Res, plus HTC has the smoothest UI in all android. if its 8+Ultrapixel i'l be in luck.
23. Bootutu (Posts: 158; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
Have you ever used a nexus device? I guess NO!....we will not stay behind because you love and pay premium for old technology, just like what people thought about 1080p display being overkill, then realised its night and day better than 720p. Bring on 2k display and people will be like WOW!
26. Kishin (Posts: 537; Member since: 30 May 2013)
I know what u mean but think about user experience, easy of use, the built material and the design. I know for a fact its not about specs but the experience
29. Commentator (Posts: 2166; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Coming from 5+ years of HTC devices, the Nexus 5 is head-and-shoulders easier to use than anything with Sense, or iOS 7 for that matter.
48. Kishin (Posts: 537; Member since: 30 May 2013)
I have to say sense UI is designed better then Nexus UI and there is no way that nexus beat iOS 7 it might not the best looking UI but it is smooth.
57. Commentator (Posts: 2166; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
I returned my iPad mini 2 mainly because I was frustrated by iOS 7's overwrought UI. I've had no problem with my Nexus 5's UI. It's far simpler than iOS 7, and man is it ever smooth? (Hint: that was rhetorical. Yes, it is smooth.)
36. Muayyad (Posts: 92; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
HTC has develops their own ART cache and it is better than KK's ART because it made android experience better since early 2013 not just a couple months ago. If HTC one had SD800, I dare anything to be faster.
14. JerryTime (Posts: 468; Member since: 09 Nov 2013)
I just hate Sense and TouchWiz personally. Ditch your crappy UI and I don't think people would care what's under the hood as long as it works more efficiently, and it's more aesthetically pleasing.
52. DnB925Art (Posts: 106; Member since: 23 May 2013)
That's why their are the Google Play Experience Line of phones. The HTC One and Samsung GS4 both have GPE versions. You could just buy those.
19. ahhxd717 (Posts: 300; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)
I don't see a need for higher resolution screens right now, but they'll need to up the camera to like 8ish MP to stay relevant with competition.. I actually think the One's camera is fine (not the nest however) but they'lo need to step it up for 2014. Come on HTC!
21. Bootutu (Posts: 158; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
They should worry and sort out the monkey on their back(Nokia) first, else they won't get anywhere.
22. gallitoking (Posts: 4630; Member since: 17 May 2011)
ultra pixel is the only thing that kept me from considering Android.... I am used to my great iphone camera.... fix it HTC or will never switch
25. GeekMovement (Posts: 1497; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
Perhaps if they deliver incredible battery life compared to competition it'll draw some more attention though the camera rumors are really just not working for me.
27. gerryf19 (Posts: 4; Member since: 20 Dec 2013)
I remain baffled by posters and reviewers who criticize a phone for its user interface. I have had android, iphone and Windows Phones, and after a long time away from Android spent a lot of time this holiday season looking at new android phones from all carriers. The difference between them on comparable phones is negligible. they are all equally ugly or equally beautiful, they impact performance about the same. I've seen reviewers and users downgrade phones for no reason beyond they are simply accustomed to a particular manufacturer skin--heck, even raw android is barely different from the OEMs...and they all seem to be derivatives of IOS. The only original UI was the Windows Phone, so like it or hate it I get, but Phandroids arguing about UIs...silly
30. cheeseycheeser (Posts: 333; Member since: 24 Mar 2011)
The HTC UI at the moment though is fairly unintuitive, and just less thought out than competitors. For a newbie picking up an iPhone, Samsung and HTC phone the difference even in the lockscreen is pretty big. The iPhone and Samsung phones both have help text and the ability to swipe from anywhere. The HTC UI has a small little lock symbol buried among other app icons. It doesn't look good, and the fact that even the most basic thing is not thought out was their problem. Blinkfeed was pretty pointless, and for a while unremovable. Animations were fast, but not pretty. The hardware was topnotch, but the camera and software failed.
33. outlawog (Posts: 43; Member since: 27 Nov 2013)
You know nothing, you dont have to drag the lock, just swipe up on the screen lol. Instead of slide, as seen on on the iPhone. Your point is therefore now invalid. Blinkfeed useless? Disable it. I would rather have the option. Sense is one of the fastest UI's out there, it never lags, unlike touchwiz. It also doesnt cause motion sickness LOL, like iphone.
34. cheeseycheeser (Posts: 333; Member since: 24 Mar 2011)
Like I said, Blinkfeed had no option to disable until recently. Also, I didn't know you could swipe from anywhere also, but it's still less immediately obvious. Speed is important, but most consumers will gravitate more towards ease of use and features. Not Sense's strong points.
58. jaychildz (Posts: 104; Member since: 31 May 2013)
OMFG how hard is it to use a phone?! Get a flip phone if this touchscreen is so mind baffling
39. E.S.1 (Posts: 285; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)
I agree. User interface? Who cares. It's a damn phone. That's all.
28. Gregor (Posts: 20; Member since: 26 Nov 2013)
5" screen is perfect, but only with thin bezel (see LG G2) in the same size of the One and a real aluminium unibody without plastic on the sides.
I'm very satisfied with 1080p screen-resolution, 2K is a totally unnecessary battery-freaker.
BUT: I expect at least 8 mpx ultrapixel camera with some new rewards.
32. surethom (Posts: 178; Member since: 04 Mar 2009)
On no not ANOTHER 5" flagship phone please stick with 4.7" screen but with thinner bezels.
The ultrapixel camera would be fantastic as long as it is 6 or 8 megapixel 4 megapixel is just too small
38. datsyuk (Posts: 151; Member since: 11 Jan 2012)
Unless I see a 2k display that blows my mind in person I really don't mind another 1080p display. The UI will run smoother at least, less pixels to push. Hopefully the UltraPixel camera is actually decent this time. Otherwise this phone still looks solid.
43. Ayron (Posts: 4; Member since: 01 Jan 2014)
If HTC can have great marketing, a better camera, better battery, and a few more features, then the HTC will be back
44. Taters (Posts: 2344; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
HTC can't make a better phone unless they fire all the stubborn staff that refuse to believe that their handsets have serious ergonomic problems and quality control issues.
45. sarge77 (Posts: 201; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
If i was HTC I would focus on hard hitting benchmarks lets get real everyone loves that with high quality display and great camera 4k videos really 1080p good enough not everybody has that HDTV yet and who wants to shovel 4k dollars or more for that... Hey dont forget my sdcard slot you forgot to put in on the ONE LOL...
oh Tegra 5 and upcoming Tegra 6 sounds nice but thats me speaking..
51. xperiance (Posts: 44; Member since: 22 Oct 2013)
Htc "one" "two" ???
So in 2015, it'll be like one two three.....come on!!!! I thought sony had the worst naming scheme!!
53. tiara6918 (Posts: 1240; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
I think specs don't really matter now anymore. Take the iphone as an example, it has one of the most outdated specs when it comes to its competitors but is still the best selling device because of the company's strategies. I won't mind these under powered specs as long as they deliver a good performance
54. E.S.1 (Posts: 285; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)
There is one thing Apple does right and that is introducing only one phone every year (I know it's the same one over and over) instead of many. So the people have no choice but to get that phone.
55. xperiance (Posts: 44; Member since: 22 Oct 2013)
When it comes to android, top notch specs does matter!
56. zachattack (Posts: 425; Member since: 31 Jul 2013)
This doesn't sound boring? HTC already has the best build and Operating system. So it will be the same phone with a bigger screen and it better have atleast a 3200 battery or more. I don't believe this leaker anyway he usually isn't correct.
Watch HTC whip out their huge weeny like LG did with the G2. People do nothing but shower the One with praise, what makes you think it will be any different with the new HTC One. I would love to buy it, only if the battery is bigger though. HTC has the best phone and OS, but they need to update the battery and camera
59. Astoni (Posts: 316; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
I for one am glad that HTC won't be using QHD displays :p... Full 1080 HD is enough. I can't find QHD gimmicky since higher pixel density creates a sharper screen but takes alot of Battery...
60. zuckerboy (Posts: 696; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
they cant use it bcuz they havent got enough money for it :D
63. Astoni (Posts: 316; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
Good one ^^, but on the serious side. I still think 1080p is enough for smarthphones with 5-6 inch screens.
61. newbey123 (Posts: 305; Member since: 19 Mar 2012)
Just need to make sure the screen is 5' and this will be my next phone. Have the One X and love it. Cant wait for the M8!