New iPhone 5 details reportedly leak out
The source also indicated that Apple would be using a plastic or rubber material for the bezel, covering a redesigned antenna that will once again encircle the phone, but without any interference from the user’s hand. It will also allow Apple to use a new aluminum back plate, but without plastic inserts on the back plate, like those seen in the iPod touch and iPad.
Other reports have indicated that the new iPhone may use a four inch display, although this was neither confirmed nor denied by BGR’s source. It’s worth noting that other reports indicated that an “iPhone 5” prototype with a larger screen and a new design were originally planned for this year, but that the phone was scrapped in favor of the iPhone 4S out of concerns about iOS fragmentation, as the new phone would have introduced a new resolution that iOS developers would have had to account for.
It’s also expected that Apple may look to put LTE in the next iPhone, as newer LTE chipsets with better battery life become available in 2012.
1. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)
So I sortof understand why Apple skipped the LTE upgrade on the 4S (I still think it was a good reason...), but why completely ignore HSPA+? AT&T does have it...
3. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)
I meant to say don't think it was a good reason...
5. trollhunter (Posts: 7; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)
Cant you just edit your post instead of responding to it?
96. vmaster (Posts: 31; Member since: 11 Dec 2011)
good point... I have noticed though that there is like a 10-15 minutes time limit to edit and then option disappears.
104. toaster (Posts: 114; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)
His comments are #1 and #3. Someone else posted before nak noticed his error, and PA doesn't let you edit your posts if someone posts after you..
117. ILikeBubbles (Posts: 433; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
you can unless you change the page...
77. bbstorm2435 (Posts: 37; Member since: 21 Oct 2009)
If you are saying the iPhone 4S didn't have HSPA+, well it did. It just wasn't the fastest HSPA+ (at 21 Mbps on AT&T). It instead was the slower 14.4 Mbps. And I am sure on the next iPhone they will have LTE and HSPA+ as with all the new AT&T LTE devices now. That is why AT&T was touting that their iPhone was the fastest because on Sprint and Verizon, theirs ran on 3G airwaves instead of the faux 4G.
2. PhoneCritic (Posts: 466; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Here we go again!!!
Can we at least wait till the end of the year?
43. TalkingTechy (Posts: 97; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Here we go again with the here-we-go-again'ers.
51. Phullofphil (Posts: 801; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
I really have a reason for going to this site. It's not to here facts all the time. It's not to here official announcements all the time. It's to here rumors, scuttlebutt, teasers, he'll fantasy concepts about the future phone and well I guess even tablet technology. This stuf about oh jot again with the iPhone talk the last one just got real eased is what's oh no not again. Because that's the whole point of this site. I hope there is always more speculation. It's entertaining to some people. Haters be hating.
54. Phullofphil (Posts: 801; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
Would not me edit my spelling and grammar mistakes for some reason but I am sure you all can figure the main idea of what I am saying
4. mikerouche (Posts: 14; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
and theyll call there 4 inch screen innovative and it will change everything, lol.
7. tacohunter (Posts: 408; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
No you just called it that, they didn't.
32. whiteninjazx6r (Posts: 32; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Ya, but Apple will find a way to make iSh*ep believe that its the newest, most innovative thing since sliced bread. They do it everytime, with most of what they offer.
"Introducing...the new Iphone...with...a camera...AND!...it now can shoot VIDEO...BUM BUM BUUUUUM."
Wow, few years behind Apple...Now they will have the first...oops...LAST phone to have a 4" (ish) screen. But they will make a big deal out of it, I am sure.
I feel for all the iSh*ep out there...Android may not be anywhere near perfect in some peoples eye...but dang, its so much better if you actually know how to use a phone and you are over the age of 7.
40. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
why are you hating.. they didnt do it this year.. they promoted Siri..so i dont see why the hate... that excuse was last year.. move on...
47. tacohunter (Posts: 408; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
lol i won't take your comment serious if you try the i-S-e-e-p word. I hope you get reported for it.
And also who's so stupid to thumb you up for that?
83. gragonHDfones (unregistered)
i thumbed up and this person never said anything to make you feel bad buddy, plus he was right about the imformation
59. Phullofphil (Posts: 801; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
That's funny I was thinking your are a goofballs troll but they did kind of put video on ther iPhones late in the game and made a big deal about it. Although apple while not inventing really to much they have takin technology and made huge improvements that changed the mobile industry forever. That being said the concept of the iPhone was probably thought of by geeks like me long before apple came out with the iPhone. Microsoft really missed on that opportunity considering they could have made a product like that but did not think it would catch on. Now it's really hard really come out with something that much of a game changer considering how often there are littelmsteps in innovation coming out. I would guess something like holographic projections like off of star wars would be nice along with other stuff doling around in my geeky head.
21. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
@mike. Yes, ip5 will change everything again. Probably not because of the display size, but with the design and something else that's awesome that will come with the ip5. And then we would watch Samsung and the other android copycats, change everything about their designs to copy the ip5 and also the other goodies that will be included in the ip5 :) Just like they are scrambling to come up with their own Siri-like assistant on the ip4s :) And then comes the classic excuse, "oh it's been out there before", or, "google has been working on that for ages already", lol.
27. cfprelude (Posts: 119; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
i love that people LOVE the iphone and say that everyone else copies it... yet how many heavy 3.5" screen phones with glass backs and metal sides have come out in the past 2 years.... oh, just the 4 and the 4s? yup, everyone wants to be like them. BUT omg if the iphone comes out with a 4"+ model that SOOOOOO wont be copying the other manufacturers (insert sarcasm here).
70. RamyRamz69 (Posts: 390; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)
Last thing I wanna see is a legendary phone like the SEX Arc copying the brick iPhone design...
84. gragonHDfones (unregistered)
wtf they had like three different apps like siri, before siri came out, apple just wanted also something cool, but i don't see anyone coping anyone there.
112. wakingup (Posts: 51; Member since: 13 Aug 2011)
I just think that their OS and marketing team is boasting too much. Siri, a "new" camera and such are allllll so inovative (android had voice around 4 years ago and camera editing does not need to come stock[market...duh]) This time, mikerouche will be so right.
118. ILikeBubbles (Posts: 433; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
then they'll sue everyone with a 4" screen claiming they invented it :p
6. trollhunter (Posts: 7; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)
A “close source” has confirmed...
A "fake source" has rumors...
8. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
You know the report is bogus when you hear Apple to use "plastic" -- Apple doesn't cut corners, which is why their products are so expensive.
14. MNX1024 (Posts: 13; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
They cut corners so they can sell their product for a larger profit.
18. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
And only an iPhone user would believe that using material other than glass is "cutting corners".
23. spanky (Posts: 81; Member since: 02 Jun 2011)
i would much rather have the back not be glass so it doesnt shatter if i drop it. im like paranoid to drop mine because i know just one drop and its done. pretty sure replacing the back glass with something more durable is not "cutting corners" its a good damn idea. im just going to go back to android....
85. gragonHDfones (unregistered)
i don't know what android you have been using. Because there isn't a problem with either of them
33. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Iamcc, why do continue to talk like H. Himmler. Perhaps, I should start addressing you like Hiel iamcc Himmler.
BTW, I don't have an iPhone.
19. Sniggly (Posts: 7280; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Are you serious? Apple makes more profit per phone than pretty much every manufacturer out there. What does that mean? Well, considering their phones sell at the same price or less than other high end smartphones, their phones cost less to make. Which means that they're not really using premium materials.
This isn't to say that iPhones aren't well made. It just means that this bulls**t that people spout about Apple somehow making their phones out of better materials is false.
22. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
@sniggly. So you think that pricing of the idevices are solely based on materials? Let's just forget about their programmers, engineers, employees, 3rd party vendors, business acquisitions, legal expenses, building expansions, Apple store maintenance, Apple support, research and development, employee benefits and retirements, etc. Let's just forget all of those other costs and just price the iphone based on materials that were used :) You are such a smart businessman :)
28. c.hack (Posts: 528; Member since: 09 Dec 2009)
Good point. Ever try getting support for an Android phone? Non-existent.
Apple manages to get better performance from a dual core A5 at 800 MHz than a faster Tegra2 = better performance and better battery life.
86. gragonHDfones (unregistered)
I agree, but this person was not saying nothing bad about Apple, or not even comparing. And not every Andriod phone is the same, because of where they come from, Samsung, Htc, Lg.......... and how those companies want to display there phones.
113. wakingup (Posts: 51; Member since: 13 Aug 2011)
I dont think so. Correct me if im wrong, but the preformance of the iphone is really not that good. Yes, it does suffer less lag at home and stuff, because androids run more things at any given time than an iOS device. (ie. LWP, background running apps which are doing things [which most iOS apps stop], widgets and so forth)
iOS devices basicly have nothing to do, and completely stagant. Nothing ever moves.
Most importantly, no customization.
36. Sniggly (Posts: 7280; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Oh, thanks for bringing up all of those other costs. I mean, it's not like any other company in the world also has to bear those costs. Yet, even with all of these extra costs which you claim makes the markup on the iPhone necessary, Apple remains the most profitable company in the mobile industry. Even with similar sales volume, companies like Samsung don't make nearly as much profit.
Furthermore, my overall argument was about the cost of materials in the iPhone versus other phones of similar cost. The iPhone's parts cost less, and the 4S is the most profitable iPhone yet.
45. SellPhones82 (Posts: 569; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Sniggly...I'm with you man. Apple has on average a markup of 117% to 147% on all iproduct. They strong arm companies into getting them the most components for the cheapest price or they just won't do business with them. Then instead of passing the saving on to customers they charge you more than double what it cost them. Like you said...every company in the world has to pay employees and pay to construct stores and so anyone using that as the reason is an r-tard. How many of those same companies then ship all the work overseas to pay people next to nothing to build these $250 devices that they then charge $750 for? Also what other companies charge the carriers to then carry their product in stores? Plus Apple gets a good amount of money off every app sold and devolves have to pay to even develop so they have plenty of places they could and do make up for any and all R&D. They have more money than the US government for a reason.
53. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
@sellphones. Ever heard of the subject Economics. In that subject, you will learn the laws of supply and demand. Get back to us after you have learned the basic principles of supply and demand and how consumer demand affects pricing of a commodity.
108. SellPhones82 (Posts: 569; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Thanks for the Econ lesson gemini! So since the demand for iPhones is falling and Apple cut orders for Q4 of this year when will we see the price drop due to the demand dropping? There is true demand and then there is OEM created demand. Nintendo did the same with the Wii...keep just enough in stock so that they are hard to get making people want them more...but I’m sure you already knew that since you majored in Econ. I'm at a warehouse with over 10K in iPhones that are moving very slow! The first month we couldn’t keep them for more than a few hours but that was due to the small orders we received from Apple and getting less than 1,000 of each model. Now the new orders are up to 30K because supply is heavily outweighing demand.
"Following the success of Apple iPhone 4, Apple iPhone 4S has been highly anticipated and the same has reflected with the astonishing sales numbers. According to the reports, Apple iPhone 4S had been able to bag 4 million iPhone 4S handsets in the first week of its launch, which is definitely a huge number. However, it is now reported that Apple has reduced the orders for the fourth quarter of 2011 to adjust the production, based on the demand. Apparently, after tremendous sales, the demand for the iPhone began to wear down resulting in the manufacturer to cut down the orders with the suppliers."
25. c.hack (Posts: 528; Member since: 09 Dec 2009)
Apple has cornered the market and ordered material in such mass quantities, their costs are lower. That allows them to make the same quality phone for less money than a smaller manufacturer, or charge the same for higher quality.
31. rf1975 (Posts: 253; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
I think you are wrong sniggly. The main reason for Apples profit margin is, there are pushing the suppliers to get the parts for very cheep rate. By considering the volume of the parts & the profit (not the profit margin) most of the suppliers will agree to Apple term & condition.
But most of other smartphones like Samy, HTC, SE & Moto are are made by the respective manufacturer.
34. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
And that is why sniggly works at Best Buys calling his costumers "village idiots" (sniggly's own words) and blaming his own problems on someone else.
Apple doesn't use plastic for the bezel.
38. Sniggly (Posts: 7280; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
The ad hominem is cute, Ardent
You're the idiot who 1) can't read, 2) didn't offer an actual reason as to why I was wrong, and 3) thinks that ZTE and Huawei will take over the Android market along with prepaid carriers.
So Ardent, what do YOU do with your work day? (I find that the guy who attacks others' employment records usually has it even worse).
9. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Well, it does look nice, in the picture.
114. wakingup (Posts: 51; Member since: 13 Aug 2011)
people always say the iphone looks better than any android device out there (phonearena) but this picture looks like most mid-range androids out there. Even looks like SGS2 sorta, with the home button changed. Now even with non-slip plastic backing? Oh, is that revolutionary and inovative now? (thats what their gunna say)
10. mrvid (Posts: 77; Member since: 02 Oct 2008)
Like were suppose to believe your BS on this one too?? I'm suprised you didn't pick this phone of the year!!
12. fleanote (Posts: 50; Member since: 14 Jan 2011)
Is it inconceivable to believe that Apple will introduce an Iphone with a slideout QWERTY?
74. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 7030; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
They have to buy a expensive slide-out keyboard accessory add-on
44. tacohunter (Posts: 408; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
they already explained why a slideout QWERTY is a bad idea.
57. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
@fleanote. Nope. Hard keyboard is an android thing. Android was originally coded to compete with blackberries, remember? :)
15. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
At least the ifans are optimistic. I was expecting the iphone 5 to be a 4s with an lte radio.
17. michas (Posts: 5; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)
I believe iPhone 5 (Getting stupid, Apple) will be like iPhone 4 was to iPhone 3GS. A lot of changes, but still behind from the other companies.
48. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
and because they dont follow other companies .. they are sucessfull....