How the iPhone 7 would look... if Apple was a democracy
13. Arte9000 (banned) (Posts: 12; Member since: 10 Jan 2016)
Do not worry holocaust demon, apple will keep you satisfied
33. ameran (Posts: 234; Member since: 04 Dec 2013)
How can you deny such tragedy in the human history? I am sure you are denying the global warming too, because your religious beliefs are more important than real world. Go get a life.
56. Tsais (Posts: 26; Member since: 16 Jun 2009)
Global warming is a hoax to eventually start charging us for breathing.
25. Acer_Predator (unregistered)
they forgot label lightning port
4. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 895; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
If that really happens, phonearena will give it a perfect 10.
11. Commentator (Posts: 3655; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
A non-Samsung device that runs Android? They'd give it a 7, tops. :D
5. almostdone (Posts: 231; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)
Life is easier charging multiple devices and worrying about running out of juice. Oh why not add a stupid adapter just in case it gets lost or you forgot to bring it. hmm interesting...
7. Hallyu (Posts: 311; Member since: 21 Jul 2015)
I like the way Mr Cook smiles, a warmhearted face with plenty of affections. He should be working for Android, not this evil fruity demon.
8. darkkjedii (Posts: 19470; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Wow lol. That thing looks like it could launch missiles.
17. TheWeasel (Posts: 401; Member since: 26 Dec 2014)
What I don't understand is what the actual benefit of removing a feature from the phone would be.
Can it not have great quality bluetooth headphones without it removes the jack?
Can it not have high quality audio using Lightning Port earphones without removing the jack?
Can it not be water resistant without removing the jack?
Can it not have a larger battery without removing the jack?
Others with less money and resources have been able to able to implement these features in less expensive phones, so why can't Apple do it?
I don't believe this decision would actually benefit anyone other than Apple, and that's not good for us as consumers. Why take something away from your customers for no good reason other than to make more money off of them?
What do you think Darkk? I think the new iPhone should be moving forwards, but this seems like a step backwards.
19. darkkjedii (Posts: 19470; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Yep, removing the jack is mos def a step back bro. Technology is advancing too rapidly, to have to make comprises like that. +1 to your comment.
34. Unordinary (Posts: 1013; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)
You just contradicted yourself. I like you, but think for a minute and ask yourself a few questions. Don't think like these drain dead zombies lol.
50. james2841 (Posts: 147; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)
48. james2841 (Posts: 147; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)
2 Problems with Bluetooth:
I predict that apple wants to have so many Bluetooth devices that it jams 2.4GHz Bluetooth and because of that, people would be looking for a less congested technology, apple is going to then appear as a savior to all Bluetooth users and introduce a new proprietary tech. The proprietary tech will be incompatible with Bluetooth headphones.
Apple is evil, But damn good at being evil.
49. james2841 (Posts: 147; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)
1. Good quality BT headphones are expensive (Big DACs need Big PCBs and Big batteries and Big money).
2. Lightning jack would only provide more power.
3. Water resistance is easily possible with the 3.5 TRRS (TRS) jack.
4. Good luck with adding more than 5 mAh.
PS: The 3.5 jack is not only used for audio (card readers, lasers (iPin), infared remote control, etc.)
Most music is not actually 24 bit (32 bit audio for if you are insane) studio quality so it would not matter. only difference would be data rate for microphone and 10% less static for unshielded cables (only dirt cheap cables are like that)
Anyone who does not think that you need a DAC (digital to analog converter) should be shot on sight and burned for their lack of knowledge of audio. unless that they enjoy hearing clicks and sounds much like dial-up internet speed up 200 times.
9. Settings (Posts: 1448; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)
Where's the Fleshlight support?! Damn Apple, they never listen to their customers!
10. alumoyo (Posts: 344; Member since: 26 Aug 2013)
The Apple iPhone 7 might drop the 3.5mm headset jack that has been a standard on phones and gadgets with audio in general for as long as we can remember.
Clearly you don't remember very fay because prior to iPhone and Android, 3.5mm jacks were pretty rare. Nokia was only putting it in their N Series flagships, Sony Ericsson only gave you 3.5mm with an adapter only on their flagship walkman phones - and the others generally used their own proprietary connectors.
14. Settings (Posts: 1448; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)
So? Don't buy the next iPhone.
Those phones you mentions were never media-centric, thus omitting the support for a standard headphone jack. Only in the rise of smartphone where it can support hi fidelity media only had the time to put 3.5mm in their devices.
32. Macready (Posts: 811; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)
Hmm. Xperia X1 and X10 both had 3.5mm connectors. Many of the other phones, while having propietary connectors, still fit 3.5mm jacks. A carry over from their MD walkmans. On some, only 2 pins for the mic are inverted.
15. ibend (Posts: 3195; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)
No IR blaster : fail
No Wireless Charging : fail
No MicroSD Slot : fail
No USB-C port : fail
No Analog TV : fail
No S/PDIF, HDMI, eSata, DVI : fail
39. 47AlphaTango (Posts: 243; Member since: 27 Sep 2015)
Why would they need an IR blaster for?
Would you be able to use calls while the phone is lay flat on the charger.
Why should there be a microSD slot if they already offer a 128GB storage?
USB C is a new tech where only a few android phones ever use class C port.
Why the analog tv?
Did any android smartphone or tablet ever used what you have said?
16. willywanta (Posts: 192; Member since: 04 Jun 2014)
unfortunately apple is not a democratic nation. It is a dictatorship.
18. acruzlu (Posts: 42; Member since: 12 Aug 2015)
It kind of looks like something from the 80s, but yeah where is the sd slot?
21. HarryDevlin (Posts: 4; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
With any product, the manufacturer calculates how much a feature costs to add, and how many additional sales the presence or absence of a feature will gain or lose, respectively.
In the Android world, if one manufacture doesn't offer a compelling feature set then it's likely that some other manufacturer will. For example, LG offers several features on their flagship phablets that Samsung has removed. There's no real downside for an Android user to buy an LG versus a Samsung.
For Apple, they can get away with a lot more decontenting because iPhone users will put up with a lot to continue using the iPhone, and in many cases they may not even be aware of the missing features on the iPhone that are present on many Android phones.
That said, the loss of the headphone jack goes far beyond the need to use more expensive Lightning or wireless headphones with the iPhone 7. Other peripherals use headphone jack as well, partly because the iPhone has no USB port. For example, one club that I'm in collects dues every six months using a Square reader that plugs into the headphone jack. There are IR Blasters that use the headphone jack (since Apple forgot to include Consumer IR on the iPhone). The average vehicle in the U.S. is over ten years old and many lack Bluetooth audio, but have a 3.5mm AUX jack to connect a phone or music player.
23. marorun (Posts: 2899; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)
No one else than Apple make IOS device so there is no real competition.
If you want IOS as your phone OS you take what Apple feed you and live with it.
This is the sole real reason i will never get iphone even if they drop the price by half.
No lil excuse and apologie news like those will make me change my mind.
22. AlikMalix (Posts: 4849; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
I'm asking this as a tech fan - so don't crucify me. But weren't there bunch of people that cried that removing a physical keyboard on a smartphone was a bad idea, that they wouldn't buy a phone without it, that the iPhone wouldn't sell, that it's a standard, and so on? What about the people that said iPhone sucks because it got no SD slot, but when Samsung omitted one they realized that built-in memory is so much faster to access data and extremely more reliable - so now it's fine. I guess built in battery is ok now since android manufacturers embraced it. They also redicule Apple for changing to lightning port "Apple just want you to buy new peripherals, it's so inconvenient, must spend money on adapters" but welcomes and beg the idea of usb-c switch on their devices that would force them into the same things that they rediculed Apple for.
I couldn't care either way as long as Apple includes either wireless or lightning EarPods. I still have my iPhone 3GS, iPhone 5s and iPhone 6s headphones - never had bought another set. If you must, absolutely must have 3.5 buy another device - it's simple. But throughout history people always criticized progression - even the "horseless carriage" - people laughed and asked where do you put the horses - this is nonsense - it's slower and makes no sense - I would like those that are crying foul for "the jack" please stop driving cars and get a horse and carriage.
I for one appreciate Apple for moving toward a wireless solution - it doesn't come overnight, but unless you cut your ambilical cord - you're still a fetus - you know what I mean? Most of you are probably the same that keep ridiculing the proprietary lighning cable - when all the I device owners like it and it and I bet more than half will prefer that to the dirt collecting, one sided, can't hold on to your phone micro usb!
Face it - Apple is moving forward and it bugs you!
30. theguy2345 (Posts: 1180; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)
It isn't about moving forward though. It's about making mega bucks on Apple fans who will buy anything, and to go buy more adapters and more headphones from Apple. That's it.
I own Sony headphones and earbuds. They are my favorite brand for headphones, so I use them. I plug them into my HTC phone. And my Dell laptop. And my MS Xbox one controller. And my Nintendo 3DS and Wii U gamepad. See? One pair of headphones can go into a plethora of devices, from a plethora of companies.
On the other hand, there is Apple. The lightning headphones will only work with Apple iPhones. And I bet Apple would add it to there computers too, and that's it. And I'd bet money they would make a proprietary protocol for the wireless headphones too. And the only company who benefits is Apple, from overpriced adaptors and headphones.
That's why it isn't a step forward. It isn't helping anyone but Apple. If something is really wrong with 3.5 MM, then a new plug would be in the works right now. But there isn't. And this is just Apple on a crusade against ports; just look at the new MacBook if you don't believe me.
35. AlikMalix (Posts: 4849; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
Yes, this is a crusade against ports - very well said!!! It's time we go wireless for everything!!! The only way to improve wireless quality is to move to that as standard. Who knows maybe Apple will figure out how to charge wirelessly (no not induction charging - that requires a pad and direct contact). All I'm saying is - if Apple listened to everyone - we all still be using physical keyboards probably.
If I'm wrong and the consumer really hates the omission of "the jack" then Apple will loose big - and it will be their fault. I for one already use BT headphones - and Apple will ship at the least a set with lightning port for the rare times if needed.
Just FYI, majority of people around me are using iPhones - not one person bought an adapter (including me) when Apple switched to lightning from the old connector. It simply wasn't a problem. I only had one speaker dock with old port, but it was BT as well - so used that until I was ready to buy a new one - and in only a few month everything was sold with new adapter as standard. It is a huge improvement over any port in existence today.
I'm not sure if you read my entire post - but the whole "horseless carriage" comparison makes sense - because at that time using horses to pull people was more practical and more convenient - as there were no way to charge cars - the roads weren't made for it, and it looked silly. But if it wasn't for that - would you still want to "ready the horses" in our times? If Apple was wrong about their vision of progression - iPhones would not sell and android would instead continue in their path to become blackberry knockoffs... (I know this statement will strike some nerves - but unfortunately it's true and it makes a valid point).
51. james2841 (Posts: 147; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)
Don't make 2.4GHz WiFi that is already cluttered with other networks, Quadcopters, R/C Planes, Fluorescent Lighting excess, etc... more cluttered with Bluetooth. at least use the lightning connector.
Bluetooth is not just something that you throw stuff and works.
52. james2841 (Posts: 147; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)
The only 2 advantages to the lightning cable vs 3.5 jack is the increased bandwidth when using Mics (More channels), and more power.
Quality is irrelevant (check post #49)
Bluetooth is worse.
24. sissy246 (Posts: 542; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)
Yeah they are moving forward so they can give isheep less and charge more.
Do you really think they will give you wireless headphones in the box. No, they will make you buy them, $59.99. Or buy the adapter $24.99 to go in the charging port.
When will you sheep learn apple is milking you.
27. AlikMalix (Posts: 4849; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
Did you read why I wrote? What adapter? Apple at the least will include lightning port headphoens
26. tigermcm (Posts: 851; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)
Now thats innovation!!!! When does it get released?? I want to wait three days in line for it.......
29. DmitrLP (Posts: 183; Member since: 18 Sep 2015)
I´m not buying an Iphone so i don´t care what they do
31. DmitrLP (Posts: 183; Member since: 18 Sep 2015)
In the end all other manufacturers will follow to remove the jack and enhance the audio quality through wireless headsets, so let´s stop complaining.
36. AlikMalix (Posts: 4849; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
Respect for the post. The only ones complaining here are those that are android users anyway.
37. MrElectrifyer (Posts: 1917; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)
Everything Apple killed off was replaced with something better overall. Perhaps killing off the headphone jack will bring the age of magsafe audio jacks? We shall see if it's just another stupid 2015 MacBook attempt to separate fools from their cash or it actually replaces it with something much better overall.
38. Crispin_Gatieza (Posts: 1559; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)
Technology cannot be static. We'd all be wearing beepers and listening to cassettes on our Walkmans if we resisted change.
40. hortizano (Posts: 274; Member since: 22 May 2013)
Aren't we all going to be sick of cancer with the Bluetooth waves? Maybe that is Apple's master plan... in an obvious conspiracy with Obama because he can't reelect... or something like that...
41. Crispin_Gatieza (Posts: 1559; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)
It's not a conspiracy, it's the Constitution that doesn't allow Obama to run again. The 22nd Amendment to be precise. Geez, the next time you have a thought...... just let it go.
42. hortizano (Posts: 274; Member since: 22 May 2013)
Geez, the next time you read a joke that you can't get.... just let it pass.
47. Baracus (Posts: 223; Member since: 15 Sep 2012)
This is why I've always liked Samsung because before they screwed up the S6 they did give their phones just about every feature(within reason)
53. james2841 (Posts: 147; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)
How long could someone get in jail or how much fines would I have to pay, If I were to "accidentally" jam the frequencies between 2.4 to 2.485 GHz and add extra noise 2.402 to 2.480 GHz. and blame it on USB 3.0 noise and these other causes.
And would there be a difference in fees/jail time if I used a Directional antenna "accidentally" placed into the static noise generator.
same with the antenna "accidentally" placed into a computer running Linux.
54. gigi3 (Posts: 22; Member since: 16 Aug 2014)
$699 smartphone, which records audio in mono (!)
55. javy108 (Posts: 1004; Member since: 27 Jul 2014)
..... Sd Card support, standard usb port and that's it.
57. Tsais (Posts: 26; Member since: 16 Jun 2009)
forcing wireless is a bad idea. Electro smog is one thing your body and brain does not need any more of.