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HTC (M)10 seen in the flesh, blazes through AnTuTu leaving the competition behind

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With just a little over two weeks left before HTC announces its flagship (One) (M)10, the intensity of leaks has, naturally, increased. We've got renders of the new phone—which paint a familiar, yet different device—some hardware specifications, and all kinds of other slivers of intel. The latest to hit the street? An image of the HTC 10 (or whatever it ends up being called), after it had supposedly tackled the AnTuTu benchmark.

HTC (M)10 seen in the flesh, blazes through AnTuTu leaving the competition behind
The image you see on the right, the best we can tell, is legit. The sender, who's chosen to stay anonymous, is located in Taiwan (where HTC is based), which lends some further credibility to the photo. The shot was taken with a Samsung Galaxy S7, which we know both because of the reflection and the untouched EXIF attached to the photo, which lists an SM-G930F, or an Exynos-based Galaxy S7 like the one we have in our offices. It checks out.

Our CSI endeavors aside, the HTC 10 in the image seems to be quite the performer, managing over 156,000 points on AnTuTu—more than both the Galaxy S7 on average, and even the G5, of which we only have preliminary results available through a pre-production unit we had in for testing. Given how the upcoming flagship is expected to arrive on the scene with a Snapdragon 820 processor and 4GB powering its Quad HD screen, that's a nice surprise. 

Anyone excited about the HTC 10?

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posted on 24 Mar 2016, 09:17 24

1. tyrionTheWise (unregistered)


I'm so excited for this phone. Not because of the antutu of course. If HTC manages the battery life well, this phone can definitely leave the disappointing S7 and G5 in dust.

Camera should be an easy win with IMX 377 and OIS.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 09:23 1

6. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


IF they dont remove adopt sd feature this phone has my name on it.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 09:25 4

8. tyrionTheWise (unregistered)


What if you want to factory reset your phone?

Adopt SD is made for android one phones with 8 gb internal storage. There's a reason google or apple don't put SD cards in their phones.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 09:27 19

11. Shocky (unregistered)


Sometimes you make a lot of sense and then you make comments like this and I'm left wondering if someones hacked your account. :D

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 09:32 8

14. tyrionTheWise (unregistered)


What exactly is wrong in my comment? Camera alone is enough reason to not switch to S7 or G5. S7 is actually a degrade from S6 in camera and G5 has the same camera as G4.

Add to the fact that how much of an HTC fan I used to be in the days of m7, and I can't be less excited.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 09:35 9

16. zeeBomb (Posts: 2294; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)


My faith in HTC has now been restored.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 09:40 1

20. johanbiff (Posts: 406; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


always liked HTC time when we had the M7..but after that not so much..hopefully the M10 change my mind again..although the S7 edge is a real nice phone, if HTC can have a good camera and good batterylife..I may change to a HTC later on.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 09:42 26

21. Shocky (unregistered)


Okay, I'll humor you.

In what way is the Galaxy S7 camera a downgrade? other than the number of Megapixels of course.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 09:50 2

24. SYSTEM_LORD (Posts: 946; Member since: 05 Oct 2015)


Yeah, S6 had great camera and processing. All they had to do, seeing as how they made the phone thicker, was:

1) increase the sensor size to 1/2.4" or 1/2.3"
2) increase aperture as they did on S7
3) keep the MP the same

And LG? Why the bet on a dual lens system? Unless one of the lens carries a narrower FoV for better detail at a given distance, modifications for better low light, or something more useful than super wide angle (that creates an ugly barrel effect), they should only use dual lens if the lens work together to create a better image ala compound eyes in animals.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 09:52 7

26. johanbiff (Posts: 406; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


actually, the S7 camera is really good and fast AF! getting better pictures with the S7 camera than the S6..but there is improments still that can be made sure! but you also need to keep in mind that the SW is not mature yet, it will get even better :)

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 09:53 5

27. SYSTEM_LORD (Posts: 946; Member since: 05 Oct 2015)


Because it traded things instead of simply improving all around like the S6's camera did over the S5.

Given the same PP, detail suffers when you drop the MP count. Period. Also, there was no need to make all the sensor's pixels dualies. If 25% of them were, it would yield essentially the same effect to consumers. And they cheaped out and didn't go with a bigger sensor which would have made the virtues of the camera even better.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 09:55

30. Fardon (Posts: 95; Member since: 24 Nov 2014)


dont say that you'll have the anti HTC circle jerk attacking lol.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 10:01 6

32. _KIRA_ (Posts: 68; Member since: 25 Dec 2013)


just like that? a leaked antututu score?

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 10:02 2

33. wargreymon (Posts: 758; Member since: 05 Nov 2013)


You can add adopt SD to phones without root. So I don´t see the problem.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 10:04 1

35. SYSTEM_LORD (Posts: 946; Member since: 05 Oct 2015)


Absolutely excited.

Was looking forward to a number of phones, but lack of US availablity for Xiamoi, LG with an un-upgraded cam and likely underwhelming battery, Samsung with disappointing battery life given a 3,000mAh cell and no serious new changes, and Sony apparently abandoning the compact line for favor of the mid-ground X-series, has left me with few options.

It's sad to say, being a fan of android, that the iPhone SE looks to be a great phone that shows all the right differences from the 6/6s including price. Ouch. It hurt to admit that.

OnePlus 3, Meizu (if the rumors of Exynos 8 in the Pro are true), and HTC are all that's left. OP3 and HTC--the 10 and A9's successor likely w/ SD625--are the hopefuls.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 10:14 1

37. Shocky (unregistered)


They only traded detail which from what I've seen the 12MP shooter does pretty well at anyway.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 10:19 6

38. tyrionTheWise (unregistered)


It boasts on being the low light king but gets beaten badly to 6p. See MKBHD review or any review. And gets destroyed in daylight by S6 in sunlight. Not to mention nexus 6P.

With S6 you had an amazing normal camera, and a decent low light camera. With manual mode and a 10$ gorilla pod, I can pull off shots that are considered impossible by phone standards.

With S7 you lost resolution, but they didn't alter their image processing algorithms. As a result, S7 loses a lot of detail due to terrible sharpening and noise reduction. And what do you get in return is a marginally better low light camera. What more, you lose the excellent 16:9 mode at full res.

https://plus.google.com/+EricaGriffin/posts/R9VFKeuGaJq

https://plus.google.com/+EricaGriffin/posts/8shnhfBxE67

https://plus.google.com/+EricaGriffin/posts/ZhELWvD2h7V

I can take out my S6 and proudly say that it beats any phone in at least one area.

With S7 you just get a jack of all trades, master of none. Nexus 6P or even the cheap 5X beats it in any condition. If you can't beat a 6-month old phone that costs 300$ less in even one lighting condition, you are a loser.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 10:25 13

40. Shocky (unregistered)


Seems fine to me

http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-edge-Mobile-Review-A-new-champion

Please don't post anything from Erica, her and her "boyfriend" have an agenda.

Sounds to me like your butt hurt the Galaxy S7 has a better camera than your Galaxy S6 and you're desperately trying to convince yourself otherwise.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 10:37 1

47. Shocky (unregistered)


The fast AF is amazing, went to a party recently and tried taking pictures of a cake under low lighting with the Galaxy S6 and unsurprisingly they turned out blurry and a bit blotchy.

My friends Galaxy S7 had no issues at all, sharp images with more detail.

I was jealous, I must admit.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 10:37 4

48. tyrionTheWise (unregistered)


Hahaha. DxOmark is a joke. Do you really think the Z5 has a better camera than S6? Or the iPhone 5S has a better camera than lumia 1020 or pureview 808?

DxoMark has been posting bullcrap articles for years.

I admit that there are better cameras than my S6 for months now, like the 6P or 5X. But the S7 is not one of them.

https://youtu.be/1sgeM6DsV40?t=292

Here's from the MKBHD. review. S7 is shamefully bad in low light despite having that brighter lens and OIS.

Please don't post DxOMark links. Only desperate Sony fanboys do it since it's the only source that rates Sony phones high.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 10:45 13

50. Shocky (unregistered)


I've had hands on with the Galaxy S7 myself and done comparisons to my Galaxy S6 and it handles low light much better from my experience, most of that was due to the fast autofocus imo.

So I'm strongly learning towards DxOMark being correct.

I'll try MKBHD's link when I get the chance, currently in work. :D

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 11:09

51. rubyonrails3 (Posts: 313; Member since: 01 Oct 2014)


S7 might have better camera than S6 but Nexus 6p resolve more detail from scene and I have Nexus 6p and S7 edge but for my taste 6p images are better cuz you can zoom in and no sharpening and a lot of detail best camera in term of resolved details. S7 images are brigther in doubt but when you zoom they show over sharpening a lot.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 11:15

52. PhoneCritic (Posts: 754; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


I am excited too. I hope HTC just take their time fine tuning their camera software. Even Sony themselves, with certain models, failed to fully take advantage of their own sensor and having their phone lag behind in comparison to others like LG and Samsung. And as of late HTC has not been known for its optic capabilities I think here the have the opportunity to hit a home run. I don't want to see them fail at all. However, I have to admit Samsung has greatly improved its offering and now all Android OEM's must bring their "A" game and we the Consumer will benefit.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 11:34

55. Macready (Posts: 1414; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)


"Camera should be an easy win"

Even if if the sensor happens to be a1/2.3", it's going to make about a quarter of a stop difference at best with equal lens speed (f/1.7). But no one will notice 1/4 EV difference in pictures (you need eagle eyes to see 1/3 EV difference in noise) and you can be rather sure of the fact that the lens will be slower, most likely more than 1/4 EV slower...

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 11:39 5

56. Macready (Posts: 1414; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)


Yes, yes, youtube comparisons from random individuals are so much more useful as a source to compare cameras.
Keep your credibility up by avoiding nonsensical arguments. At least DXO has data to back up their claim. You may not agree with how they weigh their data, but it's still objective data, not some random video without any standardized methods.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 11:50 1

58. Macready (Posts: 1414; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)


No it won't, in RAW, that faster lens helps the S7 beat the 6P handily and even using the mediocre in camera jpeg engines and auto modes, the S7 does better in many low light tests (less noise, more fine detail, see the British bank note):

http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=5&idPhone1=7588&idPhone2=7945&idPhone3=7513

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 11:56

59. Fardon (Posts: 95; Member since: 24 Nov 2014)


Dont know about great processing.

It oversharpened and smudged low light photos especially, still the same for the most part in the S7.
Which is off putting but HTC is dog s**t I'll be getting the S7.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 12:20 1

60. torr310 (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


I agree DxOMark isn't a creditable website. Sony Z series just take crappy pictures.

I also agree camera on S7 is faster and has better night shots. (just switched from S6 to S7)

I would get HTC10 if the battery lasts longer because S7 (SD820) is only slightly better than the S5.

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 14:36 1

63. TywinTheWiser (Posts: 2; Member since: 24 Mar 2016)


Come now. The mkbhd is literally creating the one use case where the s7 currently would lose. In the DXO review it literally says as a con " Under a tungsten light source, a warm/yellow cast is visible." now how would this manifest in a night shot... as grainy noise of course. So it seems like a deliberate choice here to be controversial and get those youtube views. The only downside i see is in daylight the potential for light blowouts because of the apeture..but this can easily be corrected on the software side....

posted on 24 Mar 2016, 14:40

64. pmsap (Posts: 100; Member since: 26 May 2015)


The phone design let's much to wonder... Even if it matches S7's cpu/gpu and camera the design... mehh...

Besides, for what I've read the waterproofing has some tradeoff with sound and microphone quality. But at least samsung is trying to improve things. Not yet there? Maybe. But going there. For me, the waterproof tech is a very nice one to have.

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