Google+ and Gmail: why you may want to opt-in (and some stuff about openness)
On being more open
1. Stuntman (Posts: 643; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
This is a good explaination on the new G+/Gmail feature. I think some people are freaking out because they think their Gmail inbox is going to be flooded. There is always the option to not allow G+ users to send you email through the G+ profile for those who want to. I decided to just leave the default to allow for now.
17. Topcat488 (Posts: 973; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
I wish YAHOO gave you such an option... Talking about being "flooded" with SPAM Mail. :/
2. fredphoesh (Posts: 8; Member since: 25 Jun 2010)
This is a DISHONEST article. As you yourselves say, the default is to receive from your circles only... So if you are not a Google plus user you won't have anyone in your circles, and there is nobody to send you these unwanted emails... From Google crossing imaginary line. Shame on you for the pathetic journalism.
3. Stuntman (Posts: 643; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
The default is to be able to receive email from anyone on G+. You can only receive one email from any one person from G+ unless you specifically allow more from each person.
5. mattkl (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Feb 2010)
Not being able to read and comprehend an article does not make it a dishonest article.
"the default to allow "Anyone on Google+" to contact you;"
4. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 2740; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
This is exactly why Google got in trouble. I do not want anything to do with G+ and I don't want Froogle trying to force me to use it just because I have a gmail account.
6. mattkl (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Feb 2010)
Who's forcing you and how? Did they not give you the option to uncheck this like we all have? A debatable decision to check it on by default in no way forces you to use it. It does however give you a choice to decide on.
7. alpinejason (Posts: 249; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)
well for starters you have to have a google+ account now to leave a comment on you tube.which is total B.S.
8. mattkl (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Feb 2010)
Well for enders, who is forcing you to leave a comment on youtube?
I do agree that you shouldn't have to have an account just to leave a comment. But that point still doesn't work since as I stated already, you aren't being forced to leave a comment, you just want to. That in no way is forcing you to do anything.
Now I would be more inclined to fully agree with you if you had to sign up for a Google+ account before being able to access youtube.
On the other hand, what if you had to have a Google+ account first before using any Google product or service? Why would so many get upset? They offer services with certain rules and other variables attached. We decide if we are good with that. No one is forcing you to use anything, phone, OS, whatever it may be. They are fully within their right to enforce that upon you for agreeing to use their services.
Get over yourselves, I'm not saying it's right what they do, but thinking you deserve everything for nothing is ridiculous. Plus it's all free monetarily.
9. mptripper (Posts: 5; Member since: 10 Dec 2013)
You missed the point. He wants to comment on youtube without using google+, just like before.
11. mattkl (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Feb 2010)
I did not miss that point. You have missed the point.
Let's start from the beginning. Mxyzptlk said he didn't want Google forcing him to use Google+ just because he had a Gmail account.
I said they weren't forcing him since he had the option to turn the feature off. I also asked him who was forcing him and how? Which alpinejason then replied to my question with "well for starters you have to have a google+ account now to leave a comment on you tube.which is total B.S." which is stating that he believes one of the ways they are forcing you to use Google+ is by having to sign up before you can leave a youtube comment.
Which is not the case.
So as I said before, you seem to have missed the point as you have apparently not seen where he was replying to my question.
His comment was an answer in reply to my comment, not a statement as you mistakenly believe.
18. buccob (Posts: 964; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
You have to Create an account to leave comments and follow articles in PhoneArena dont you?
Are they forcing you to do so? No, mattkl is right. You want to leave a comment here and you sign in to do it...
If you do not want to, go to GSMArena and post as Anonymous
13. maketas (Posts: 6; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)
So if your employer says that he has retained 10% of your salary for buying his own car, you must opt-out of that decision? Weird, man. That is an opt-in decision.
15. mattkl (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Feb 2010)
You are describing something that involves losing money. You don't lose anything especially money by being opted in to this by default.
10. androiphone20 (Posts: 941; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
Mxy, introducing Google blackmailhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v
12. maketas (Posts: 6; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)
The real problem is that this is an opt-out, not an opt-in. Google is deciding that you want to share your info for you without asking. This is not a matter if i want to be more open, but a matter that Google is deciding that i want to be more open without asking. In the end, Google seems right to take decisions for their users, and this is awfully wrong. I want to take the decisions for myself. I dont want anyone else to take decisions in my behalf without asking.
16. mattkl (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Feb 2010)
What are you talking about? What info is being shared? Why is everyone so concerned about this, just turn it off if it's a problem for you. Your email isn't being shared nor is anything else being shared now because of this. It just adds an option. The user decides what is being shared.
I agree and have never disagreed that having this off by default may be the best idea, but turning it on by default is in no way a terrible thing either. You can still decide to turn it off.
19. ePoch270 (Posts: 61; Member since: 26 Sep 2013)
The real problem is that people are complaining about something that is free. If you are so upset, don't use Google. If you don't like have a G+ to post on YouTube, stop using YouTube. It's not like you paid a lot of money for a car and then the car company says you can't go North.
You get what you pay for. This terrible sense of entitlement is ridiculous.
20. mptripper (Posts: 5; Member since: 10 Dec 2013)
the real problem is that you don't see a problem with this... pedos could be lurking in every boyband video then messaging every little girl with g+ comments they could find.
But of course, there's an option to opt out. But not every one will opt out and not everyone will be protected.
21. ePoch270 (Posts: 61; Member since: 26 Sep 2013)
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
23. mptripper (Posts: 5; Member since: 10 Dec 2013)
wow copy paste response. I've seen this response on 9gag numerous times. good for you.
22. randy123 (Posts: 1; Member since: 12 Jan 2014)
This is the tip of the iceberg my friends. Google is the scariest thing going. I'm not afraid of an Iranian nuke. I'm afraid of a world where Big business continues to weave its web around us while also getting closer and closer with government (search "google militarization" or "google hire former top NSA executive" or "Google hire DOD top design engineer")