First Sony Z1 f benchmark shows amazing performance
A 720p screen, a Snapdragon 800 chipset with Adreno 330 graphics, combined with 2GB of RAM? Still sounds surreal, though it feels nice to see that reality exceeded our expectations for once. As can be expected, the lower pixel count that the quad 2.2GHz Krait CPUs have to work has resulted in considerably higher score than its equally decked-out bigger twin – 34376 points against the 5-inch Z1's 30838 (in our tests).
Check it out for yourself below, we've included a bonus hands-on video with the Z1 f, as well.
1. DefinitiveKid (Posts: 49; Member since: 15 May 2013)
Seems bulky as hell ! The screen is 4.3 but this phone looks BIG
4. pwnarena (Posts: 594; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
say that to the iphone 5s. 4" vs 4.3" with almost the same sizes.
of course it should be thick because it carries a much bigger battery. it has 2350 mah, which is way bigger than the iphone's and any other minis out there. it also has a larger camera sensor.
8. DefinitiveKid (Posts: 49; Member since: 15 May 2013)
Not trying to start any war, I'm just saying that on these videos the phone LOOKS big, but maybe it's the person holding it who has tiny hands, I don't know...
Anyway, I will never understand fanboys bringing up other OEMs at every occasion, you could just have told me about the Z1 f dimensions, no need to involve Apple in this discussion...
14. pwnarena (Posts: 594; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
not being a fanboy. it's about looking for a benchmark. we're comparing phones of almost similar display sizes here. i am not familiar with the dimensions of the galaxy and htc minis so i'm just using the iphone 5 as a benchmark.
you see i won't go out of my way to look for those dimensions just to defend a sony device.
19. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
The Xperia is also much wider than the iPhone. 7mm is a huge difference in hand. This is the main factor on why iPhone one hand useability is so good.
25. PapaSmurf (Posts: 6086; Member since: 14 May 2012)
I'd take a larger screen at 720p, S800, and a 20.7 MP camera over an iPhone any day. Why? Simply because I can not stand the 4" screen on the iPhone. Once you pass the 5" barrier, going anything smaller is hell.
48. Miracles (Posts: 310; Member since: 31 Aug 2013)
Well said. Totally agree. I have the Z (5") and looking at my family's phones with small screens makes it hell. I'd be like wtf is this. Then again, I have huge hands so I guess it goes to say that I like the 5" screen size.
32. buccob (Posts: 978; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Well that also depend on your own hands... I can handle my Xperia Acro S with one hand (126mm/66mm/11.9mm) similarly sized to the Z1 F, no problem, specially since we can use a slide typing feature instead of tap for text. So iPhone actually fails this way even having a smaller size...
38. pulkit.tyagi (banned) (Posts: 35; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)
second video has 4:3 aspect ratio .. hence the image is taller !!
11. Chris.P (Posts: 174; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)
Have you seen the Z1 in person? It's phablet-sized, which, incidentally, is the only thing I don't like about it.
13. pwnarena (Posts: 594; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
are we reading the same article?
the device in question here is the z1f or z1 mini. it's not that awful bezel-ful z1.
(sorry if i'm misinterpreting your comment)
20. Chris.P (Posts: 174; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)
I suppose my comment could be misleading. I meant that, seeing as the Z1 f is based on the Z1, it's only natural that it's equally gigantic.
33. buccob (Posts: 978; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
I do not find the Z1 F gigantic, however the Z1 is really big and thats the main reason for me not to buy it... But the problem in both phones is that the camera sensor requires certain thickness (almost all the way through from back to front) and that is why it is positioned above the screen (on the opposite side)
So keeping this in mind, the top bezel HAS to be this big to be able to fit the camera... The bottom is another story and I would have like capacity buttons but we can't have it all...
In perspective my Xperia Acro S is 1 mm shorter in heigth even when it has buttons outside the screen, and that is because the camera sensor is directly behind the screen... but they compromised thickness so thats why my phone is almost 12mm thick.
In conclusion the size of the Z1 F seems totally reasonable for a phone with such specs... and it is perfectly easy to handle with one hand.
17. dil2abu (Posts: 112; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
I don't think any other company could make such a compact phone with tat specs keeping Ip58 certification.. Sony could make compact phone like ZL.. Think before you complain about size..
26. papss (Posts: 2931; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
Regardless of what it has its STILL huge for a phone screen so small. Looking at the video I bet it's on part with a 4.7 screen phone so to me water/dust proof isn't worth the size. As you say think before you post
28. dil2abu (Posts: 112; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
Water/Dust proof isn't worth the size? Really?
Check the size of S4 active.. Why can't Samsung make it same size as S4?
Z1 f is huge because of its specs..
31. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
Lol Z1f isn’t only dust and waterproof but also comes with powerful chipset, big battery and large camera sensor.
From what i know until this day there is no one can make bezelles waterproof phone, just look at LG Optimus GJ and S4 Active bezels.
Before you talk to much BS about the size of Z1f, maybe you can show me any waterproof phones (IP67 or IP58) with 1.2/3 camera sensor, S800/Exynos 5 Octa/Tegra 4 Chipsets and 2300 mAh battery. In smaller dimension than Z1f (127 x 65 x 9.4 mm).
2. ijklmnop (Posts: 18; Member since: 10 Oct 2013)
pretty clean lineup.good job sony
3. wicpromd (Posts: 266; Member since: 20 Aug 2013)
Galaxy s4 mini and HTC one mini just shame on you both......
this is what we call Mini flagship,Xperia Z1 f
7. jb4674 (Posts: 108; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Now the iPhone 5S has a similar competitor that has clearly smoked it in every way.
23. pwnarena (Posts: 594; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
not really. the iphone5s smokes almost every android in the competition. but design-wise, feature-wise, battery-wise, and price-wise, androids are still more preferable.
35. buccob (Posts: 978; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
sarcasm? if not what am I missing... if I want a better design, more features, better battery and lower price AND you are saying android is more preferable, in which way the iPhone 5S smokes Android phones?
Obviously taken into account flagships and similarly specced or similarly priced...
40. pwnarena (Posts: 594; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
read the earlier comment for which my reply was intended.
the iphone5s smokes android phones when it comes to benchmarks. you can look that up here or in other websites. despite its specs that seem inferior to topnotch androids, it actually manages to win benchmarks.
44. buccob (Posts: 978; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
oh ok... benchmarks... I never take them as a selling point, even for myself being techie.
I tend to disagree on comparing devices with different OS and underneath features...
iOS 7 has a lot of welcome additions, but it just does not cut it for me, Android is still the most flexible and you have the most options for both software and hardware.
I.E. IP57 or more is important for me, bigger screen than 4", microSD slot, affordable TV Out option (microHDMI cable or MHL adapter)... so the iPhone is out of the question for me, even if benchmark says its faster
45. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
49. buccob (Posts: 978; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Nice... I already knew Sony is pretty good in optimization... but I hadn't seen that comparisson... anyway like I said, benchmarks are one thing, but selling points for me are another...
9. shahulvm (Posts: 94; Member since: 01 Apr 2012)
This is just number, yet it is real benchmarking...Please take note Samsung instead of tweaking your phone to perform differently while using the benchmarking apps...Sucksung!!!
34. TwentyWendy (banned) (Posts: 65; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)
Anyway, galaxy note 3 blows away this deal ant phone already, sorry to disappoint :)
46. Remmy (Posts: 52; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
Faster clocked processor + 1GB more RAM. what do you expect? They're not on the same league anyway. :/
10. twens (Posts: 423; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
i like the phone but honestly its too BIG.lol
12. Rongocook (Posts: 76; Member since: 20 Sep 2013)
Nice one sony! I'm definitely getting it.
15. ahomad (Posts: 129; Member since: 15 May 2012)
my Z1 got 34k+ on both normal and antutu X apps (where it prevents cheating). mine is Stock, no ROM no OV and locked boatloader. PhoneArena need to update the scores when the production units arrived (not the tested preproduction ones)
16. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 5486; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
i'll take the Yello and Red one thanks :)
18. bodzio1809 (Posts: 40; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)
Looking good even with big bezels, but Sony got some battery issue. Just look at it:
and LG G2 to compare
21. Taters (Posts: 2144; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
The reason why people don't do this with their mini devices. It makes their flagship 1080p device not so much a flagship.
I personally much rather have a 1080p screen without the knowledge that a non flagship smokes my flagship in benchmarks.
And the battery life must suck with the 2300 man. At least under clock it and slim down the chassis.
22. Taters (Posts: 2144; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
The Z1 is huge but it looks like the sleeker device in that comparison. Looks like Sony might have pulled a Lumia 920 like brick with this one.
24. livyatan (Posts: 514; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
Not surprising at all, given the lower screen resolution.
Still, didn't beat my SD800 Note 3 (scores around 36000 on Antutu, even after the non cheating benchmark update)
36. kobainez (Posts: 291; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
What's the big deal? Samsung got caught cheating on benchmark so that doesnt count. Z1 mini is better than your galaxy note 3
43. livyatan (Posts: 514; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
Now you're just playing dumb.
First, antutu has been updated since the benchmark cheating "scandal"
second, I mentioned that in my post
third, most vendors have also also been "cheating" those same benchmarks ( probably Sony too)
fourth, according to Anandech, the gain in benchmarks is as low as 5 percent
finally, and I'm repeating my self again - the Z1 f has only 720p display so with that in mind benchmark results are less impressive than Samsungs even if they are equal at numbers.
I was just stating facts
41. pwnarena (Posts: 594; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
the famous doomlord on xda reported scoring 36k+ with the z1 on antutu
27. papss (Posts: 2931; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
I love the idea of a small powerhouse like this other that it's large appearance.
30. ammarnadim93 (Posts: 13; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)
Well for the Specs sony is offering in just 4.3 inch device i am ready to compromise for the thickness of the device :) Way to go SONY
39. lallolu (Posts: 203; Member since: 18 Sep 2012)
Sony should release it soon and make some money before samsung comes again and try to dominate this segmen (High-speced phone in a compact body)
42. DLanor1107 (Posts: 31; Member since: 01 Apr 2013)
Just as i expected, a powerhouse in a compact body... sony just nailed it....
47. TMach (Posts: 310; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
Great job Sony apropos the Z1 f but sticking with my wonderful Z1. Those complaining about size, I thought I was going to have to pass on the Z1 due to size but Sony pulled a neat trick which meant the moment I saw it in the metal, I had to have it due to its overall gorgeousness, build quality and the fact that holding it, it did not seem as big as I had envisaged it from the leaks etc. Neat illusion! For those whining about bezels, I say look at the iP5/5S which has similar sized bezels in a tiny phone then get a grip. They are also irrelevant when you come to hold this beast and in any case serve a purpose when watching movies, plus they are absolutely necessary given the specs of the phone, camera sensor, huge battery etc etc. Loving it and probably the best phone I have ever owned and I include the S4, HTC One (misses out due to non expandable storage), every iteration of the iPhone up until 5! Guess haters wil always hate........!*Sigh..............!