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Apple wants Samsung Galaxy devices banned, Samsung fires back requiring iPhone chip contracts

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Apple wants Samsung Galaxy devices banned, Samsung fires back requiring iPhone chip contracts
If you thought that the new year will bring us a break from the long and boring Apple-Samsung lawsuits, you’re wrong - Apple has just filed a fresh set of ten injunctions against Samsung’s Galaxy devices in Europe. Samsung in return requires access to Apple’s contract with Qualcomm, which might reveal that Cupertino is infringing on Samsung chip patents.

Samsung could be infringing on Apple patents with ten of its phones and five tablets, according to Germany’s Dusseldorf court. Cupertino is looking to ban those 15 devices from retail shelves in Europe.

The Korean company has fired back by asking Apple to give it its contract with Qualcomm over the MDM6610 chip used in iOS devices. Digging in those contracts, Samsung is hoping to find a flaw, despite the fact that Apple says it’s covered by Qualcomm’s licenses.

“One of Apple’s primary defenses is that it is entitled to use the chipsets at issue,” Samsung’s lawyer stressed. The current Samsung Android flagship, the Samsung Galaxy S II, could also be banned in Europe if Apple succeeds.

source: SlashGear

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posted on 17 Jan 2012, 09:35 22

1. ghost__uwi (Posts: 175; Member since: 28 Nov 2011)

Who the hell are apples lawyers ? They seem to be working on serious energy drinks.
Need to take it down a notch.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 18:01 2

65. tuminatr (Posts: 773; Member since: 23 Feb 2009)

what apple does not think the samsung commercials are funny!!!

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 09:47 23

3. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)

Banning of devices should be banned. If infringing of patents are proved, then just pay for the fee.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 11:49 17

39. mukrenol (Posts: 90; Member since: 03 Sep 2011)

apple WANT to ban samsung as competition
apple did not want any royalties
it's a way to kill enemies while killing self

they are just... all about vengeance... don't care about customer anymore
they don't even want to innovate new things anymore but to destroy competition (aka android) by lawsuits...

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 12:38 7

45. beatsandmelody (Posts: 109; Member since: 01 Nov 2011)

Steve Jobs DID say he wanted to "go thermonuclear" on Android.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 09:49 2

4. sadaivadai (Posts: 156; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)

What can stop these ??

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 18:13 4

66. maier9900 (Posts: 272; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)

I would like to inform you that all Apple lawsuits against Samsung will be dropped as i become the next CEO of Apple by the end of 2012, to be exact... that date will be Dec 21, 2012.

Thank you for your patience !

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 09:51 6

5. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 1032; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)

If they REALLY want to get technical....Apple can make a lawsuit against EVERY company that has an all-touchscreen phone since Apple was one of, if not the first to do so!!

I dont see the point of all this because everyone copies off of everyone else. We humans are creatures of habit and for Apple (who already have billions stashed away in case of a nuclear holocaust lol) to sue Samsung is just plain stupid!!

its like 2 guys fighting over the same woman who doesnt want either of them lol

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 11:02 4

27. mozes316 (Posts: 142; Member since: 30 Sep 2011)

Wasn't one of the first, just did a good job on improving it.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 11:33 7

34. -RVM- (Posts: 331; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

Siemens SX45 was all-touchscreen smartphone released in 2001 (6 years before first iPhone).http://lh4.ggpht.com/_uB-Ac-qV5GU/R9yWodBq7eI/AAAAAAAAFy0/2vwXkfpXQr4/siemens-sx45-3.jpg

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 14:52 4

56. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 1032; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)

i stand corrected, i apologize

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 20:56 4

70. Whateverman (Posts: 3262; Member since: 17 May 2009)

What jerk thumbs down a guy for apologizing? How about you do us all a favor and the that thumb, turn it upward, and shove it...well you know the rest don't you?!?

posted on 18 Jan 2012, 07:26 1

80. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 1032; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)

I agree......thanx lol

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 12:37

44. SleepingOz (unregistered)

Where are you from?

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 12:55 5

48. xiobnb (Posts: 74; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)

then moto could ban everyone since they were the first to make phones

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 15:31 1

60. JLMCGE01 (Posts: 8; Member since: 21 Dec 2011)

Jeradiah 3 I don't think you want to go there because Motorola could make a lawsuit just by saying they patient the FIRST CELL PHONE EVER MADE. and could easily say that Apple is infringing their patients.... WOW! MIND BLOWER? Motorola could just come in and be like, let see how you can make the iPhone with no phone?.... hahaha we patient mobile phone technology!!!!!!

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 18:26 2

67. jbash (Posts: 344; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)

i had an hp all touchscreen phone that ran windows 5.0 in 2003

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 10:05 19

8. hunted (Posts: 403; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)

I'm sure apple is scared of samsung, no comments

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 10:05 1

9. bigdawg23 (Posts: 448; Member since: 25 May 2011)

The best thing of all is who gets to pay for this who pissing match.... Us Smartphone users!!!!

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 10:18 6

13. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)

lol apple are literally just throwing lawsuits about and hoping for something to stick...thats all you hear coming from apple is lawsuits and lawsuits.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 10:22 5

14. Adianshadows (Posts: 66; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)

apples next phone: the iSueYou phone. Looks like every other touchscreen device in existance but is revolutionary so they think they win...

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 10:23 2

15. Robert235 (Posts: 59; Member since: 30 May 2010)

first htc,now samsung and whose next my other favorite company motorola.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 10:48 7

21. ivanko34 (Posts: 617; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)

apple cannot do anything else than lawsuits
apple cannot beat competions on inovation or new products

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 12:48 2

47. SleepingOz (unregistered)

Nah, the new iphone 4s is awesome, as "awesome" as the 2 year-old iphone4.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 10:58 2

25. Kenai (Posts: 3; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)

Is this really the image of Steve Jobs legacy nothing more then you can't play with my ball so go home....really but you want to play with mine apple so why don't you go back to your socially needy OS and find something more constructive to do like make an actual phone that has caught up with the times.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 11:18 3

32. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

apple is really scared of Samsung .. good lord. and what is the basis if the suits now? they already tried their arguements to get Samsung banned and for the most part it was a fail. what is this? "our A team arguements failed so lets send in the B and C arguments to see if they work!"

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 11:37 1

36. f1r3z0r (Posts: 91; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)

Apple has a small selection of electronic devises created for them....on the other hand, Samsung makes PC, tablet, phone, TV, printer, laptop, etc....Apple just make Iphone Ipad and Laptop and a very expensive PC

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 11:41 3

37. Doakie (Posts: 2003; Member since: 06 May 2009)

I love all the anger and swearing about Apple being a bunch of douches. It's about time people become enraged at Apple's greedy nature. Down with Apple and down with the iPhone!

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 11:51 7

40. TKFox007 (Posts: 303; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

Again, why hasn't any of these companies that make Android devices (Motorola, Samsung and HTC) brought it to the courts attention that Apple is suing all of them to get the products banned? They're not after licensing fees, they don't want the money, they want the products off the shelves so they can have a monopoly over anything that's a touch screen device.

It's anti-competitive behavior and it's not the first time that Apple did this either. They stole the idea of the GUI from Xerox and then tried suing Mircosoft when they started doing it. But it was thrown out of court when it was shown that Apple stole the idea from Xerox. Steve Jobs himself said that they were shameless when it came to stealing other people's ideas.

They stole the idea of a capacitive touch screen phone from LG who showed off the Parda. Apple can say they've been working on the iPhone before certain devices but they have no proof nor will they ever show such proof. They send their employees to spy on other companies who debut their products at trade shows and then come back with all the ideas they saw, copy them and rush them out before their competitor can release their product.

And because of Apple's secretive business practices, it allows them to do this.

Now you may say that Apple's patent portfolio is proof, no it's not. Apple's patents are broad, all encompassing patents that can apply to many things.

Samsung tried using one of their patents in a counter suit against Apple, saying that the iPad infringed upon their 3G connectivity patent, to which the court said that Samsung can't use it because that patent has become a standard for 3G data transfer. So Apple, which has devices which have become the standard for smart phones and tablets, can sue for patent infringement but can't be sued back when they infringe on something that's also a standard. Apparently it's only a one way street.

And if Nokia made Android phones, you'd know that Apple would go after them too.

I think it's completely stupid that Apple is going after Android manufactures when they should just go after Google who is the source of Android.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 13:07 2

49. blazee (Posts: 407; Member since: 02 Jan 2012)

Getting sick of all these lawsuits by apple, trying to take over the market. Im never buying an apple product and im going to discourage any of my friends from doing so as well.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 13:34 1

50. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)

great job PA... I rather leave than have me banned for speaking my mind in a public forum.. you want all fandroids... you got them... see you... btw that picture of the SGSII is still ugly...

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 13:57 1

52. jbash (Posts: 344; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)

POV in the comments section is a big reason why many of us visit this website. Somethings do need to be moderated, but more times then not it is unnecessary.

The back and fourth banter for and against different products, companies, ideas, etc is quite entertaining at times. It makes us feel like we got our 2¢ in.

I may agree or disagree with gallitoking on many different subjects, but I respect the right to his opinion no matter how right or wrong he maybe.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 14:02 1

53. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

no matter how wrong.. or wrong.. he might be, he is still entertaining. Every time I read his stuff i get a mental image of william shatner in Family Guy doing all those jerky movements as he speaks. makes me laugh every time. :)

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 14:03

54. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

i dont know what your crying foul about (get it.. foul.. ya chicken head :) ) everyone that has something banned in this thread is banned for saying something negative against apple except one thread by you.. so if they wanted all fandroids they are sure going about it wrong.

posted on 18 Jan 2012, 02:14

77. PhoneArena Team (Posts: 258; Member since: 27 Jun 2006)

The moderated posts in this discussion are not the "negative ones" , but the profanity ones.

posted on 18 Jan 2012, 06:56

79. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

well, it went hand n hand. :)

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 21:43

72. frydaexiii (Posts: 1443; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

lolol, can't believe you're getting so worked up over a moderated comment...and adding that the SGSIII is ugly. It doesn't matter how ugly, as long as it isn't made out of cheap glass

posted on 18 Jan 2012, 02:11 2

76. PhoneArena Team (Posts: 258; Member since: 27 Jun 2006)

We wouldn't ban anyone for expressing their opinion. However, it must be expressed in a manned that doesn't insult others, respects their opinion and isn't provoking = trolling.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 14:29

55. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)

I find it odd that Apple sues Samsung only. I mean there are many others manufacturers phone that look like the iPhone, then why don't apple sue them also?

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 14:53 5

57. nightmare (Posts: 28; Member since: 25 Nov 2011)

iOS is Android for dummies.its wrong for kids(iOS) to disrespect their elders (Android) other wise their stay on earth(market) will be short.The bible says.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 14:56

58. thebikerboi2 (Posts: 144; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)

Why is every fandroid saying that apple is scared, they sell millions of ios devices per year and with recent sales figures of the 4s I highly doubt that they are suing samsung because they're "scared".

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 21:47 1

73. frydaexiii (Posts: 1443; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

Yes, it's exactly because they are scared, they aren't sueing for royalties, so they're not really sueing to protect their patents. They are sueing to get these products banned, and why would you want a product banned (when you could gain royalties and both parties are happy) other than that product might actually be good and might be becoming more popular than your own? Think about it...

posted on 18 Jan 2012, 07:50

81. roscuthiii (Posts: 2217; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)

Apple does have a reason to be scared. Think of them as two different species of the same genus of animal; a specialized one (Apple) and a generalized one (Apple's competition - namely, Android). All specialized creatures are doomed to extinction. They are dependent on the conditions in their walled garden not changing, unlike generalized creatures which are able to adapt to new environments and ecosystems. Look at how much of their revenue is generated from selling iOS devices. Yes, there are App Store and iTunes, etc. revenue streams that bolster their profits but those require an initial purchase of an iDevice. A significant shift in consumer interest cuts off their food source at the beginning of the food chain. They can only live off the "blubber" their high profit margins give them for so long if they are not able to feed once that shift is complete. I wouldn't expect this shift to occur for at least another 3-5 years however. Luckily for for Apple, I believe Tim Cook to be versatile and pragmatic enough to provide the adaptability should it become necessary being a logistics man; whereas Steve Jobs was far to rigid and single-minded.
Another possibility for a source of fear can be seen in the recent economic failings of the automotive, housing, & banking markets, i.e. the bubbles popping. Many charts you will see graphing Apple's growth resemble those same patterns. Bubbles pop... either by the pressure of rapid perpetual inflation, collapsing under their own weight, or even the slightest of pin-pricks.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 17:01

62. krazdjokr26 (unregistered)

its easy to get people worked up on this site... all you gotta do is say one word "APPLE"...

and to all you android users... guess what??? my android days are over... i'm eligible for an upgrade and i'm getting the phone yall hate the most "iPhone4S"

GO APPLE!!! hahaha android is like a honda civic with all the bells and whistles compared to a Benz(iphone)

i used to get upset that my own android family is acting chaotic on this site... now that i'm closer to having my iphone its more comical to come here just to read how upset yall are that there are apple articles...lol

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 17:27 6

63. jbash (Posts: 344; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)

An android is like a 4WD truck. can go places others cant, carry the load, can take a beating, and have one by every manufacturer.

iPhone is like a Miata.. small, cute, not that functional, and would be destroyed in the most minor of fender benders.

sn Benz are nice but a major pain in the arse when it comes to maintenance, thats why I sold mine

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 21:47 1

74. frydaexiii (Posts: 1443; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

lol, enjoy your downgrade...

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 19:03

69. knights4life03 (Posts: 131; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)

i knew this was coming..... again!

posted on 18 Jan 2012, 10:58

83. elite monkey (Posts: 21; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

Wasnt the galaxy s released befor the iphone4?

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