Apple gets an order forcing Samsung to hand over Android prototypes
While some of the devices like the Galaxy S II have already been released in markets like the UK, others like the tablets have not, but Judge Koh argues that Sammy has long uncovered them, so it won’t actually unveil any secret information to Apple. In her ruling, the judge mentioned that Sammy has already handed out 5,000 Galaxy Tab prototypes on May 10th. In addition, to alleviate fears of leaks to the enemy camp, only lawyers hired by Apple for this case will be granted access to those devices to ground their claims.
Going back to the initial statements made by Steve Jobs’ team, the company based its court filing on the following: “It’s no coincidence that Samsung’s latest products look a lot like the iPhone and iPad, from the shape of the hardware to the user interface and even the packaging. This kind of blatant copying is wrong, and we need to protect Apple’s intellectual property when companies steal our ideas.”
Samsung is now forced to hand over the device prototypes within 30 days including the packaging. What’s your take on this turn of events, do you see the same striking similarity that Apple is talking about or is it just a trend in smartphone development? Feel free to share your opinion in the comments below.
1. mr smmy (unregistered)
in opinion samsung galaxy s2 not very similar with an iphone 4.
20. AndroidTroll (Posts: 359; Member since: 05 Mar 2011)
Don't bite the hand that feeds you, Apple. Remember, you don't really make anything, you just assemble parts made by other manufacturers like Samsung.
22. captn3x (unregistered)
In this case Apple is the customer paying for parts. Technically it's not apple doing the biting. I hate Apple because there devices are way over priced (look at there earnings). But it seems they can do no wrong, Samsung is screwed.
33. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
samsung isnt screwed. Apple might have "designed" the ipad, but its a samsung product through and through. Its all samsung underneath that apple logo.
If apple wins here than they will go after everyone else like dominos. All the pads look pretty much the same. I dont see apple winning this out right unless they have some secret weapon they havent unvield yet. They will settle and concessions will be made on both camps. They are both suing each other after all.
42. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
how is the ipad at all samsung... apple designs everything and just has samsung copy it over and over... does that make it a samsung product? no... if we said that for every product, everything wud be from about 10 companies... and for the people who say they ae biting samsungs hand, u shud probably look up the fact that apple and samsung decided each lawsuit wud be only on the mobility part of samsung and apple and have no relation to their manufactuering part...
34. downphoenix (Posts: 2766; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
This is incorrect, how can Apple sue Samsung. If they can sue anybody, it should be google for ripping off the software. Which is arguable.
48. AndroidTroll (Posts: 359; Member since: 05 Mar 2011)
Right. But Samsung has the upper hand because they could choose to stop supplying Apple and focus on themselves and others while Apple hangs out to dry. So I don't think they should piss Sammy off...
41. obnoxious9162775 (Posts: 32; Member since: 25 Apr 2011)
I agree, apple has huge profits, and now they are just looking for ways to get Samsung to stop producing their own phones and only give them the option to provide the hardware to apple. Steve Jobs needs to get his head out of his ass and stop hating on Android. We like freedom, i dont want to be tied down to a paper weight iphone that only allows proprietary software etc. Just hold onto to your Ifanboys and leave us Anroid users alone. In other words, Steve jobs, you can take it in the ass from a unicorn infested with herpes and hepatitis C. BLOW....... Now you need to go to the clinic. And is it just me, or does Steve Jobs look like a cancer patient.
43. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
he is a god damn cancer patient u ass hole... he has fucking cancer... why wud u make fun of anyone trying to beat that... and he isnt saying android is bad or deleting from ur phone or anything... he is simpy protecting the os that apple created and did first... why shud they not? obviously it can be done other ways that the apple grid... look at wp7....
49. AndroidTroll (Posts: 359; Member since: 05 Mar 2011)
I can't wait until Google sues Apple next! iOS 5 to have widgets and new notification system...I guarantee it will be a direct copy of Android OS!
2. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
Even though this is exactly the type of thing that happens in these cases I can see the hate now. Accusations of Apple trying to steal ideas from prototypes(even though most have been shipped already), among other things when this is just run of the mill court proceedings. Not that I'm siding with Apple, just saying this normal. And also no indication that Apple is "winning".
3. samad (unregistered)
just like cameron and tyler winklevoss sued mark zukerberg for their ideas.....lol
4. siib (unregistered)
haha apple holes are scared cuz sII sold more than them, pure losers
25. deago78 (Posts: 159; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Heh they definitely didn't sell more. I hate apple, but you are flat out incorrect on that one.
5. Denio (Posts: 23; Member since: 15 Feb 2011)
Apple should be proud of their designers (!) and move on with a NEW design. Anyway, Galaxy SII and iPhone 4 is totally different. If you cannot differentiate than it doesn't matter which smartphone you buy today.
6. geo (unregistered)
Omg,another selfish Apples?When this is gonna end?
7. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
Its not the design of the s2 Apple is contentious with. The tab 10.1 redesign and package design of sammys smartphones, and the UI in the smartphones (the 4x4 icon grid plus dock icons) that Apple has a problem with.
18. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I think they just made the 10.1 thiner....... they seemed concerned with having the thinest...... cant tell why....
8. ahmedra2ol (Posts: 27; Member since: 01 Mar 2011)
fuck apple i hate this company !!!! and i will buy SGS2.
9. None (unregistered)
Dude... Samsung need to change their GUI... If apple have problem with it just freaking leave @ android base GUI so much better and the update role out much faster!!!
10. andro (unregistered)
How is Apple getting away with this? Suing a company which produces phones and tech which are not only better than theirs but also becoming more popular than their stagnant lines. Samsung also a company which ironically provides a massive amount of the essentials that make apple products in the first place.
Then Apple get order to spy on all the new products of one its greatest rivals before they are released,to try and insure they are either stopped or sxmained to see how apple can catch up or surpass
Apple are looking increasingly childish,worried of the android supremacy.Its just mindboggling to see a company get this draconian control,god only knows what surveillance and control their are using keeping tabs on their products in the hands of their fanboys.The fanboy drones really need to wake up
46. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
explain to me how they are at all childish when they were just named the most valuable company, are the largest phone company by revenue, and have stock prices that are exponentially bigger than they were just years ago...
11. Ben (unregistered)
Even the most blinded and mentally controlled fanboy can now hopefully surely see the company they herald as their god is trying to take massive manipulative control of everything. Its literally like watching a dictatorship in the making or by the sounds of this court decision it may already have gained power
12. lilbranbran (Posts: 21; Member since: 14 Jul 2010)
Apple is childish, to be one of Samsung's top customers; and then have the audacity to sue them? Why, just because Samsung's phone and tablet "look" like their product? Bullshit. They only have the right to sue, if Samsung had exactly copied the iPhone 4 or iPad. None of Samsung phones or tablets look like the iPhone or iPad. Apple get a life, get a hobby, you got too much time on your hands.
13. Slammer (Posts: 1422; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
I thought prototypes are fairly secretive designs until patented. Apple had a hissy fit when a prototype of their phone was left behind in a bar somewhere. The COURTS should be determining if the designs are infringing; Not Apple. They shouldn't just allow Apple to dismantle a competitor's product. If the showcase on the other foot, there is no way Apple would allow this. This is the kind of BS that pisses me off about Apple. Frankly, the court system pisses me off as well. This judge should be stripped from bench. If she doesn't feel she has the knowledge or tools to properly litigate over this case, she should step aside and let someone else try the case.
15. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
I don't think you understood the situation. First off the headline here is misleading. As the article said only the law firm that represents Apple is getting the prototypes. Apple will not be touching them. The attorneys will have their experts do the analysis. Apple won't touch them. Also except for the tab10.1 all the prototypes being given are for devices that are already on market, available for sale. And the tab 10.1 has been distributes to certain devs, and once again Apple will not touch it. If Apple wanted prototypes there are easier ways to get them. This isn't the case. Also the judge and her understanding aren't the case. The lawyers are requesting these devices to make their case. This is just the lawyers requesting evidence, and don't be confused-these devices are evidence, to prepare and prove their case. No different from any civil or criminal case.
14. and (unregistered)
don't be soo.. selfish apple, we will not be forever in the top (sorry for my bad english)
16. seeds (Posts: 48; Member since: 13 Apr 2011)
apple will sue every big vendor (HTC, SAMSUNG,dll)
maybe apple wanna be single vendor for phone & tablet
*honestly i think apple is like child play (icon,dll)
19. crazy coyote(Bahamas) (unregistered)
i just think that apple is scared of samsung due to the succes of it product lines. will not be long before andorid products surpass ios.
23. captn3x (unregistered)
They all look the same. I believe it's Android that Apple is after but Google has too much money. If they take on the phone manufacturers they hope Google will be forced to change the layout of there OS. It is totally a matter of opinion but I think my next phone will be WP7 just for a change of scenery.
26. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
You'll like it. I replaced my cracked iPhone with a focus cuz it was cheaper. Can't say I won't upgrade to iPhone 5 or 6 but wp7 is nice.
Also, I think Apple is going after Sammy because of the striking similarity of their GUI. The 4x4 grid plus icon doc is a blatant rip off. However going after Google itself would be dumb because saying Google copied the grid layout would be stupid on apples part. Palm and rim also used a similar UI also. Even before the iPhone. But hell even samsungs icons look like apples.
27. Rich (unregistered)
im starting to think that apple is feeling like its going to be hard to win this arms race bc they are just producing a single phone once a year, while these other phones are growing by leaps and bounds. now they are reverting to other tactics to try and slow down the other companies.
30. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
jajaja look at al the hate... towards apple... dammm.. so now you guys seems to know a lot about the law. wow the hate for a company?? blinds u guys... if it was the other way around ..android fans wil be al over it.. and in favor of the law.. please... these are only cell phone company that make phones.. if you dont liek a product..dont buy it..period... I have the Droid x but recognize the iphone... i dont hate..
32. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Wow, all the hating on Apple, lol. I think it's because you guys know deep inside that Apple is right in defending their patents. And you guys want a piece of Apple in your android devices as well, and now that Apple is going after Sammy, you guys don't like it :)
35. Sniggly (Posts: 7290; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Gemini, haven't seen you in a while. And as usual you're wrong.
36. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
How can I be wrong when the court favored Apple on this case. And how can I be wrong when all your actions clearly says that you are pissed off at Apple because they're trying to stop Samsung from copying their features into their android devices?
37. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Everyone has been copying Apple for years now. From kinetic scrolling, to that spring effect when you scroll, to proximity sensors, to adopting capacitive touch instead of using styluses, to gyroscope integration, to the AppStore, to the iPad, to pinch to zoom, to slide to unlock, etc......
Which android phone had those features and devices before the iphone? NONE.
38. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
And that is why you are pissed. Because you do like what the iphone does, you just don't like Apple, so you are thankful every time android devices copies and integrates what Apple had integrated into the iphone and the ipad, so that you can also enjoy what iphone and ipad users enjoy :)
39. koolaid (unregistered)
@ gemini- your not very up to date with your patent infridgments are you? i dont think so.. NOKIA AND PALM have and always have had the patents for scrolling with the fingure on a touch iu, they have patents for widgets and apps, and all the other shit apple is suing samsung, nokia, hp, google, and who ever else they decide at that point they need to strip of their patent rights so apple can get more money.. you my friend are an idiot. how bout you take a trip down memory lane and check on nokias 2001 touch screen patents and see how many were BLATENLY STOLEN BY APPLE AND USED ON THE FIRST GEN IPHONE.. get the fuck outa here.. ive had all the phones and they are almost the same but, with wp7 and android you dont get the warming sensation of steves job middle fingure giving you a prostate exam for you 1.29 per song and 15.00 dollars for a dig. copy of a cd. come on now budy, apple is like the nazi party and steve jobs is hitler. so hail hitler if you wish, but come one now. that is my rant on that. but for real. apple has stolen everything they have and no1 sees this? AND on top of it they don't build a single piece of equiptment used in their own device, so if the shit really hits the fan watch sammy drop them all together. that would make me pee a little because i would not be able to stop laughing.
44. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Then how come they never implemented those features the way Apple did? If Apple does not own these patents, then Sammy has nothing to fear. How can Apple sue for a patents that someone else have already patented? Lol. And you have the nerve to call me an idiot? No need to open the history books. Just use plain common sense. If Apple stole patented features from Nokia, then let Nokia sue Apple. Are you a patent specialist? Who cares if you have a thousand phones up your arse? Lol. Apple has every right to sue anyone to protect their IP. If it is true that Apple stole everything that they have, then let those who they stole from sue them. If they don't sue Apple, then that would only mean that Apple didn't steal anything. All parts on every Apple device is approved per Apple's specifications, so it does not matter where the hell they purchase their hardware from. If Sammy drops Apple, who is their top customer, then let them. Other hardware producers will welcome Apple with open arms. Why are you laughing? Last time I checked, Apple is doing way better than the rest :)
40. lowe (unregistered)
apples loosin to google thats why there tiring this
45. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
@koolaid.. calm down dude... is fine not to like Apple but comparing it to Hitler dude c'mon... that is your opinion so dont mix the facts with your opinion. ok.. if people want to pay 1.29 per song what is it to you... as long as you dont pay for them get the f out of here with your comments.. u have no right to critize people and what to pay or not... downsizing just because people chooses to pay for stuff, it does not matter if Apple "steals" again your opinion.... and we al knwo your opinion wil not count in court.... next
47. DriodTroller (unregistered)
What a bunch of BS. cRAPPLE is getting a little high on themselves. It will be soon that they will crumble.