Nokia's next flagship is delayed for a very good reason

Nokia's next flagship is delayed for a very good reason
A tweet disseminated by Nokia anew reveals that the sequel to the Nokia 9 PureView has been delayed to next fall. HMD Global, the company that makes the Nokia smartphones under a license from the Finnish company, reportedly has pushed back the introduction of the phone so that it could be powered by the 2020 flagship Snapdragon 865 Mobile Platform. Originally, the phone was supposedly going to have the Snapdragon 855 Mobile Platform under the hood.

HMD doesn't want a repeat of what occurred with last year's Nokia 9 PureView. Unveiled during the MWC show in February, the phone was already one generation behind thanks to the use of 2018's Snapdragon 845 Mobile Platform. That chip was built using the 10nm process compared to the 7nm process for the Snapdragon 855. Instead of going through 2019 with flagship performance and energy consumption, Nokia 9 PureView users purchased a phone that trailed behind the competition. We gave the handset a 4.0 score out of 10.0.

The Nokia 9 PureView was the first phone with a penta-camera setup in back. Three of the sensors capture monochrome exposures and all five cameras fire at once to produce multiple images from different angles. In other words, the penta-camera replaces HDR. But that put the heat on the Nokia 9 PureView's image processing to deliver and it fell woefully short on this end. Even an update that increased the speed of the image processing on the phone didn't help.


There is talk that the phone will not be called the Nokia 9.1 as originally thought and will be known as the Nokia 9.2. It also will get a huge specs boost according to the rumors. The OG model features 6GB of memory, 128GB of storage, and an unimpressive 3320mAh battery. Originally priced at $699, we have a feeling that a Nokia 9.2 with a massive upgrade in specs will also get a massive upgrade in pricing.

The Nokia 9.1 was originally thought to make an appearance at the end of this past summer, but problems with the camera pushed back the expected unveiling to Q4. When that deadline passed, the second quarter of 2020 was the next date cited by Nokia anew. And now we are supposedly are waiting until the fourth quarter of 2020 for Nokia's next flagship to see the light of day.

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47 Comments

1. meanestgenius

Posts: 22786; Member since: May 28, 2014

A delay to make sure that your flagship has the latest and greatest is always a delay I can live with. The OG Nokia 9 Pureview, while having its shortcomings (crappy in-screen FPS, battery is too small, and processing time for photos is too slow), had some great points as well (amazing build quality, breathtaking photos taken with it’s penta-camera, unprecedented dynamic rage from the cameras, best Stock Android experience on a smartphone, fast software and Security updates). It is factually the best and most powerful Nokia branded smartphone to date, especially when using metrics that are measured against the rest. All in all, HMD has been putting out the best Stock Android experience (especially when compared to Pixels, as they have just too many issues that hamper the experience), and I’m looking forward to the successor of the Nokia 9 Pureview.

10. Venom

Posts: 3973; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Kind of hard to agree when even PA has said that the Pureview was a flop.

16. meanestgenius

Posts: 22786; Member since: May 28, 2014

Much like PA has also said that Google just can’t get it right with its flagship Pixels.

35. Venom

Posts: 3973; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

46. meanestgenius

Posts: 22786; Member since: May 28, 2014

https://www.phonearena.com/phones/Huawei-P30-Pro_id11099 https://www.dxomark.com/category/smartphone-reviews/ Using your logic, you’ve been lying all of this this when you said Huawei smartphones aren’t good, and that Pixels have the best cameras.

2. Methlab

Posts: 32; Member since: Apr 19, 2019

These people should just stop already, they keep on disrespecting Nokia's name year after year.

4. Venom

Posts: 3973; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Yup I agree. Just look back at the Pureview and how far they dropped the ball with it. They are more than capable of creating a compelling flagship so for them to give us the Pureview after so many delays is inexcusable. It's far from the best stock Android experience of any phone. That title goes to the Pixel 3A XL and the best Nokia phone available in the US, the 7.2. Documented facts support what I say.

9. meanestgenius

Posts: 22786; Member since: May 28, 2014

Actually, they don’t. Sure, they are a new company still getting its footing, but they have been more successful at selling smartphones than the likes of Android stalwarts like Google, who’s Pixel line has been one disaster after another. They offer the best stock Android experience, something that the Pixels should be doing, but they suffer from far too many issues. Even the Pixel 3A line is suffering from the latest Pixel issue, so it’s far from the best when it comes to a stock Android experience, and there are zero documented facts that say that the Nokia 7.2 is the best Nokia branded smartphone available in the U.S.. despite what some erroneously say. The Nokia 9 is more powerful, offers better and faster performance, and has a much better camera. But you know what? The 7.2 is not only the second best Nokia branded Android smartphone available in the U.S., it also offers a better stock Android experience than the Pixel 3A line due to having far less issues, and that’s a fact.

12. Venom

Posts: 3973; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

"but they have been more successful at selling smartphones than the likes of Android stalwarts like Google" Based on what metrics? Since you have made such a bold claim, then you shouldn't have any problems with providing the numbers to back up your claim. "there are zero documented facts that say that the Nokia 7.2 is the best Nokia branded smartphone available in the U.S.." I never said it was a fact. It's an opinion just like you saying the Pureview is better is. "due to having far less issues, and that’s a fact" Well show us the proof then.

17. meanestgenius

Posts: 22786; Member since: May 28, 2014

“Based on what metrics? Since you have made such a bold claim, then you shouldn't have any problems with providing the numbers to back up your claim.” HMD was recently in the top 10 global smartphone manufacturers list. Something Google with ALL of its branded smartphones has never been on. Next. “I never said it was a fact. It's an opinion just like you saying the Pureview is better is.” The last sentence in your comment #4 says hello: “and the best Nokia phone available in the US, the 7.2. Documented facts support what I say.” So you did in fact say exactly what I said you said. Busted. “Well show us the proof then.” Ask Google, they are your friend. A cursory Google search proves it.

18. Georgio

Posts: 325; Member since: Nov 21, 2016

Issues ; disaster ;say what? I have friends with pixels phones ; I have a pixel phone. What the heck are you talking about? This website makes up stories for trolls like you. I had the best experience ever with my pixel phone; and I had samsungs ; iphones, sony; LG ; pixels . I always had the best experience with Google phones ; Google Nexus or Google pixels. So go to sleep trool ;pixel are the best stock Android experience and nothing comes close to it. I had problems with my iPhone xs( I couldn't get any signal from time to time in the middle of the city) I had problems with my explosive galaxy note 7( Samsung sent me an update an limited my battery life to 50% before they took my phone back ; but they took it back after 1 month ; so I had to use my phone with only 50% battery ) My sony Xperia xz ( I couldn't sent any text massages cos they sent a buggy software ;after one year my phone wasn't charging anymore) So don't tell me that Google phones have problems ; they may have some software bugs from time time ; like any other phone ; but they get fixed . The true is that Google doesn't have any major problems (major hardware problems like others)

19. meanestgenius

Posts: 22786; Member since: May 28, 2014

Flagship Pixels have been a complete disaster. Your anecdotal evidence of you and your friends having Pixel phones means absolutely nothing. You’re being foolish if you think that all of these issues that have been documented about Pixels are “made up” by this or any other website. You are the one that’s the troll, attacking anyone that speaks about Pixels in a way you don’t agree with it. And I absolutely DO NOT believe that you have owned any of the other smartphones that you say you have. You’re just a Pixel shill deflecting from the real issues that Pixel users have been facing with these Pixels, and it’s been plenty. The bugs get fixed only for something else to break on the Pixel phones or for some other bug to pop it. Pixels are THE MOST problematic and bug prone Android smartphone line, and no amount of deflection or denial from a trolling shill like you will change that.

20. Georgio

Posts: 325; Member since: Nov 21, 2016

Ive had all this phones ; I can change my phone every month if I want. These are like toys for me . You are just a virgin who lives in your mother basement ; I bet you don't even have a job , I think you buy the cheapest phones ( cheap Chinese phones) I was looking to see how fast you are answering hahaha . You answer back very quick cos you have no life Look how many posts you have 22670 hahahahahaha You are poor ; desperate with no life . I had all this phones and pixels phones are the best Android experience !! Now keep you cheap Chinese phone ; and if you want something better ; go to work ; your mother house is not the answer,

22. meanestgenius

Posts: 22786; Member since: May 28, 2014

Lmao now I know you’re blowing smoke. You expect me to believe you because you say so? Get real. The fact that you had to resort to personal attacks first proves you’re the adolescent virgin living in a cage in mommy and daddy’s basement. And you answered me back just as quick, so I guess you’re really talking about yourself having no job, no life, being poor and desperate. But do keep on commenting and projecting your pitiful unfulfilled life the way you are, it’s hilarious! I absolutely love it when I trigger you Google shill fanboys into rage, all seething with anger lmao!

23. Georgio

Posts: 325; Member since: Nov 21, 2016

Come on ; everyone can see that you are just a virgin. I bet you never seen a naked women in you entire life. All you did in your life was to post stupid comments on this website. I can prove it ( you have 22671 posts ) You are not normal!haha I bet you are shaking while you are writing from your cheap Chinese phone. God knows how poor you are. In Europe we can afford these staff quite easy. I don't get angry because of a phone ;you are the angry virgin here. You post on this site night and day. So probably you will end up old ; virgin and homles ; still writing stupid stuf on this website. At 80 years old you will have 200 000 posts. hahahahahahahaha

24. meanestgenius

Posts: 22786; Member since: May 28, 2014

At this point, it's fairly easy to see that you're talking about yourself and projecting really hard LMAO! I really have you seething with anger over my factual comments about a phone you don't even own. Anyone that tries as hard as you are to make it seem like you're a somebody to a stranger on the internet is clearly a nobody. But keep it going! It's so entertaining to see that you're referring to yourself with your juvenile insults. Just try and use proper spelling and grammar with your next comment so you don't look so much like a adolescent, ok little guy? Lmao!

26. Georgio

Posts: 325; Member since: Nov 21, 2016

You don't have to admit anything ; you have no life ; everyone can see that. You are constantly on this website . You are a member since 2014 and you have 22572 . Stop watching porn on your cheap little phone ; go out ; find a job ; get a woman. You have no real life. This a friendly advice. English is not my first language ; I also don't pay that much attention cos I'm laughing so much. You are like in that movie ( 40 years old virgin ) but with no job or house. :-))))

27. meanestgenius

Posts: 22786; Member since: May 28, 2014

Georgia, Do keep it up! It’s extremely entertaining watching you struggle with the English language as you project how you really are onto me, especially since it isn’t my first language either. But keep it up! At this rate, you’ll match my number of comments in no time, and then you won’t have to be so jealous! Don’t stop believing! You can do it, Georgia! LMAO!

28. Georgio

Posts: 325; Member since: Nov 21, 2016

You are not very good in your own language ;nevermin speaking a foreign language . haha I'm not struggling at all ; it looks like you are struggling a bit. If we were standing face to face ; you wouldn't stand a chance.

31. meanestgenius

Posts: 22786; Member since: May 28, 2014

LMAO! Now you’re with the physical threats! I love it! Keep it coming!

33. meanestgenius

Posts: 22786; Member since: May 28, 2014

By the way, let it be known that you couldn’t prove anything that I’ve said wrong so you got frustrated and resorted to personal attacks and projecting, much like weak willed people such as yourself do. You got triggered even more when you saw that I’ve been taking you for what you are, a JOKE, and now you’ve resorted to physical threats on the internet while safely behind a computer and keyboard, much like weak willed individuals such as yourself do. You’re so infuriated that you are struggling more than usual with the English language and are rambling incoherently. I’d say that means this little fun but ridiculous back is at an end. When you respond to this comment, and you will, refer to this comment which will refer to you to all of my other comments and further frustrate you as you furiously pull what little hair you have left out, and all because I made a comment about an inanimate object that you apparently worship.

36. Venom

Posts: 3973; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Kind of hard to take someone seriously when they hide behind "documented facts" and "anecdotal evidence" whenever someone comments on something that disproves something you've said. I mean you can't blame someone for something that you yourself are doing.

47. meanestgenius

Posts: 22786; Member since: May 28, 2014

Lmao kind of hard to take someone seriously that is in denial about documented facts and thinks that anecdotal evidence is greater than documented facts whenever someone comments that disproves what you are saying. I mean, you can blame someone for something you yourself is doing.

25. Vancetastic

Posts: 1871; Member since: May 17, 2017

Folks, we have a new winner in the Dumbest Comment of the Year contest....and it's only January 3! Congratulations!

29. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3187; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

Which one? I can’t keep up.

34. Vancetastic

Posts: 1871; Member since: May 17, 2017

I don't know anymore...he keeps one-upping himself!

37. Venom

Posts: 3973; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Well anecdotal evidence is pretty far up there. *takes a drink*

48. meanestgenius

Posts: 22786; Member since: May 28, 2014

Well, not believing “documented facts” (the word facts is literally in the phrase) is pretty far up there. *sips green tea*

3. TheAccountant unregistered

one large camer sensor is always better than 5 tiny sensors. I wish they make a Lumia 1020 successor with Android One UI. that thing would be must buy piece of hardware for me, but I don't thing this would happen

5. Venom

Posts: 3973; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I agree. I don't get why they didn't go that route instead of the mess that we got with the Pureview. I honestly don't see how anyone can defend it when it has so many shortcomings.

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