Yet another report indicates that sales of the iPhone might not be as strong as years past

Yet another report indicates that sales of the iPhone might not be as strong as years past
With 2017 marking the ten-year anniversary of when Steve Jobs first took the wraps off of the iPhone, we're expecting big things from Apple come next year. Since so much hype is being placed on the next-generation iPhone, it makes sense as to why Apple played it a bit safe this year with the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus. The introduction of true water-resistance, a brighter screen, and a refined design were all certainly nice additions, and while there's no doubt that the iPhone 7 line is the best one yet, it's also no surprise that this year's iPhone is a bit boring when compared to previous iterations.

Since the iPhone 7 hit the market, we've seen reports that sales for Apple's latest smartphone were a bit lukewarm and not as great as the company was anticipating. New information by way of Barron's reiterates this fact, as it states that multiple manufacturing plants in Taiwan that create various components for the iPhone have faced losses as a result of the phone's lackluster sales reception. It's reported that a total of 19 different companies in Taiwan have been faced with losses, with their total cumulative profits down about 0.4-percent when compared to this time last year. Some of these 19 companies include the likes of Foxcon and Largan Precision, and while this is just one outside report and nothing official from Apple, it's still quite interesting.

Yet another report indicates that sales of the iPhone might not be as strong as years past

As mentioned above, the lower sales for the iPhone could be a result of so much anticipation being placed on next year's model. We've heard reports that the 2018 iPhone could feature a revolutionary wireless charging standard and long-awaited OLED panels, so it makes sense as to why some customers would be inclined to hold off on this year's offering. In addition to this, the iPhone 7 marks the third-year in a row that Apple has stuck with the same general design for their smartphone, so customers could also be getting fatigued by more of the same.

Ming-Chi Kuo is one of the best analysts in the industry, and a few weeks ago Kuo reported that lower iPhone sales could also be a result of no planned refresh for the iPhone SE and overall lower demand over in China. These reported weaker sales for the iPhone certainly don't mean that Apple is falling to its demise, but it'll be interesting to see how the company responds to these claims and reports with their product line in 2018.

source: Barron's via BGR

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53 Comments

1. civicsr2cool

Posts: 250; Member since: Oct 19, 2016

Such innovation. Much Wow. So flop.

4. bucky

Posts: 3771; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

That's a compliment if you think a phone that's outsold any other phone is a flop. People are waiting and there was not enough to upgrade for most people.

6. blingblingthing

Posts: 843; Member since: Oct 23, 2012

The Nokia 1100 and 1110 have outsold everything. I'm guessing this phone is high on your list also?

14. sgodsell

Posts: 6739; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

If Bucky and Apple cannot realize or see that other OEMs have built, and sell lower end smartphones with a full HD display for around $150 brand new. Yet Apple charges a flagship price for a iPhone 7 with only a HD display (resolution of 1334x750). Apple and others will say the higher resolution displays are not needed and are overkill. Retina crap is all you need. What about VR or AR? Apple and others like to boast and brag to the world and tell everyone how fast their new A10 SoC is. Yet it's only pushing a few pixels around in comparison to any smartphone that has a QHD display. The A10 chip on an iPhone 7 is only pushing a quarter of the pixels on the physical display compared to a QHD smartphone like a Pixel XL or Samsung S6/S7. Now if other OEMs can manufacture and sell a brand new smartphone with a full HD display for a fraction of the selling price that Apple sells their iPhone 7. Then Apple needs to prove to me how fast their chipset is by using a QHD display on a iPhone. Instead Apple and others like to use synthetic benchmarks and graphics tests.

17. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

Great points and all that, but I've tried to use some of those "high spec" lower end phones and they've been complete s**t. My workmate raves about his Chinese "Doogee" phone in the same breath as asking me to take photos of stock and email them etc because his camera is crap, lens is misted up, email slow to respond etc. Did you ever stop to think maybe Apple is doing it the right way since they're so successful? Maybe pushing less pixels makes more sense than a 4k screen on a PHONE? Maybe that's how it runs so well. You're also paying for the software rather than generic, off-the-shelf Android with an overlay/bloatware - I'm always amazed how many ads pop up when I use friend's Samsung phones for browsing the internet. Maybe iPhones aren't specced for VR because VR isn't used by the vast majority of the planet yet? VR is STILL crap on many higher resolution phones. You could spec something for trends years in advance but by then people will have upgraded anyway.

19. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"Did you ever stop to think maybe Apple is doing it the right way since they're so successful?" Apple's success is mostly due to userbase loyalty, not because Apple's doing it the right way... - A restrivtive OS isn't right... - Lacking basic functionalies isn't right... - Incremental upgrades isn't the right... - Always late to the party (latest tech) isn't right... - Though iOS updates are frequent and fast, them bring the most buggy isn't right... Heck, sales success doesn't mesn best, nor does it correlate to "doing right". In this world, the best isn't always at the top, and rhe worst isn't always at the bottom. So by your logic, those who have no success or less success than Apple aren't doing right... That's FALSE.

29. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

you are so right Trojan because the best car are for sure not the most sold.

32. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

God Bless You!

20. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"Did you ever stop to think maybe Apple is doing it the right way since they're so successful?" Apple's success is mostly due to userbase loyalty, not because Apple's doing it the right way... - A restrivtive OS isn't right... - Lacking basic functionalies isn't right... - Incremental upgrades isn't the right... - Always late to the party (latest tech) isn't right... - Though iOS updates are frequent and fast, them bring the most buggy isn't right... Heck, sales success doesn't mesn best, nor does it correlate to "doing right". In this world, the best isn't always at the top, and rhe worst isn't always at the bottom. So by your logic, those who have no success or less success than Apple aren't doing right... That's FALSE.

21. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

Sorry for the double post. I mistakenly pressed the "post reply" button twice.

22. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"Did you ever stop to think maybe Apple is doing it the right way since they're so successful?" Apple's success is mostly due to userbase loyalty, not because Apple's doing it the right way... - A restrivtive OS isn't right... - Lacking basic functionalies isn't right... - Incremental upgrades isn't the right... - Always late to the party (latest tech) isn't right... - Though iOS updates are frequent and fast, them bring the most buggy isn't right... Heck, sales success doesn't mesn best, nor does it correlate to "doing right". In this world, the best isn't always at the top, and rhe worst isn't always at the bottom. So by your logic, those who have no success or less success than Apple aren't doing right... That's FALSE.

28. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Crappy moto G play is as fast as an iPhone for most task ( game loading is slower i admit ) its camera is good ( a tad worst than iPhone ) IPhone run so well? after every update there is major issue i work in cellphone industry and i see those first hand. off the shelf android are not all bloated like Samsung phone maybe you should try something else than Samsung lol. Vr is amazing on the pixel btw. ( and pixel is pricy yess but give you MUCH more for your money like a real support app with live representative to help you , unlimited cloud storage , free VR headset in most country ect ) Its as fast as the iPhone in 99% of cases take better pictures as well and have a MUCH lower rate of return and issues. So sorry Jimbo Apple will continue the downspiral its in it right now.

48. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

I agree, Apple is going backwards. That's a different discussion but don't let that stop people here continue to presume I'm some fanboy who buys any old crap they make. I always try the other options, glad I didn't opt for a Note 7... ;)

30. sgodsell

Posts: 6739; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Look Nimrod, I get it that you have to justify the purchase of your iPhone 7, so you can feel better about the amount of money that you laid out. But clearly you missed my point, especially when I was trying to convey that if some OEMs can manufacture, ship, and sell a brand new smartphone, with a larger higher resolution display with battery life that lasts longer, a CPU, ram, storage, LTE, wifi, cameras, flash for $150. Then that is telling everyone that Apple is clearly gouging it's customers. So you then have the nerve to tell me that "Did I ever stop to think that Apple is doing it the right way since they are so successful? Maybe pushing less pixels makes more sense than a 4k screen on a phone? Maybe that's how it runs so well." So to sum up in your words, maybe we should just enjoy what Apple continues to pump out onto the market, and just wait until they jump on board with what ever new technologies Apple will grace the world with. Right? Does that sum up how it works? So VR will be ready in your eyes when Apple jumps on board. Just like when they didn't need a larger iPhone, or more ram, or in general a larger display like the plus versions. Apple for years has been telling everyone how their IPS displays are superior to every other smartphone display. But in the near future Apple is looking to use AMOLED displays from Samsung in their up and coming new iPhone(s). So I guess Samsung's AMOLED displays will only be good at that time, when Apple uses them in their iPhones. Because clearly the technology wasn't that good until Apple uses it, Right. Isn't that how it works with most of the sheep like you. Please forgive me I forgot that you have to wait for your Apple God to tell people like yourself, when and only when the new technologies will be ready for prime time.

47. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

I haven't purchased an iPhone 7 because there was nothing I found interesting about it. Justify your hate for Apple or it's users as much as you like but get your facts right first. Everyone I know with an iPhone weighs up the options before they buy, some switch to Android and come back, some still have 4S's or 5C's even, no-one I know behaves like your and your mob's sheep mentality - I see more of that from the Android side to be honest. I know the iPhone display isn't the "best" but it's not the pile of s**t you resolution freaks like to pretend it is, it's still extremely good in all the ways that matter. VR, as yet, doesn't matter - I've yet to meet anyone who uses it, even with Android phones.

31. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

My phone has a QHD display and it's faster than the iPhone. Also how fast does a phone need to be at doing nothing? Please a swer that. It's not whether I need something. If Apple doesn't want to use the latest tech then dont. I'm perfectly ok with it. But don't charge a price equal to a phone with the latest tech either and thatbi where it's BS. No one is saying you need more ram, more pixels, or even a larger phone if you don't want it. But when you compare the iPhone at $650, it seriously lacks many things

46. sgtdisturbed47

Posts: 960; Member since: Feb 02, 2012

"My phone has a QHD display and it's faster than the iPhone. Also how fast does a phone need to be at doing nothing?" You really think my S7 Edge is going to do anything more than my 6S Plus for all of the smartphone functions? Call, text, email, web, apps, music, etc. What specialized functions do you think the majority of Android owners use that iOS doesn't have? Bump backs to send photos? Miracast? You're one user and you assume that the way you use your device is the way everyone should use theirs. That's ridiculous. That goes for anyone that's still whining in 2016 about iPhone lacking function. If it lacked major functions that people truly miss, they wouldn't sell as well as they do. Simple logic.

33. AlikMalix unregistered

You sound like resolution is the only thing that matters to anyone. you ever looked at how pentile and ips resolutions show sharpness differently. Pentile screens look fussy at same resolution as ips. But forget the pixel arrangements for a sec. Are iPhone screens not sharp? Are people complaining about iPhones resolutions - actually, in contrast - android users blaim primarily the high resolution for lower performance on their "best phone ever" android device. But let's put that aside as well. If you want VR get android. If you don't care about VR and PREFER iOS - enjoy your iPhone. Android does NOT deliver everything iPhone/iOS does. And VR is something very little people care about right now. You need to wait till Apple enters that area. Value does NOT equal price (or just one handpicked spec). The sooner you realize that, the sooner we become friends.

39. tedkord

Posts: 17094; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

"At the same resolution." Unfortunately, that's not what is being discussed. And, it's just a fact that Samsung AMOLED displays have been the best in the market for several years, borne out by reviews and testing. That's not to say the iPhone displays have been bad - they're excellent.

45. TheOracle1

Posts: 1917; Member since: May 04, 2015

Jeez your arrogance is disgusting. Who the f*ck would want to be friends with anyone who would even come up with a statement like that? And we should wait for Apple to do VR? Just like you iSheep had to wait for crappy Amoled screens that you just trashed? Oh and they're supplied by your main competitor. Hypocrisy doesn't even begin to describe your drivel.

49. AlikMalix unregistered

What arrogance. I'm trying to point out that iPhone resolutions are sharp. Very sharp. I rather take that than slower performance. why is that illogical to you? I'm only stating (in many words) that iPhone resolution is great - NO ONE except you goons complain about it. I didn't say "wait for VR". I said if you want High resolutionfor VR get a damn android (Didn't I say that? Didn't I...?). But if you want VR to hit mainstream wait till Apple introduces their approach - usually Apple the public notices this tech only after Apple does it - just works that way, not always - but usually. If you want to bring up the past: Apple led public and commercial perception in capacitive touch screens, multitouch, fingerprint scanners, 64bit mobile, App Store, sharp resolution, tablets, mobile payments, etc. none of which they were first - but people didn't care until Apple did it. Samsung got credit for phablets (lets use that argument for everything, right?!). But Apple had bigger screen mobile devices too - iPads. But I digress - iPhone screens are sharp, not "garbage" you people trying to say it is - but even if it was - there's so much more to iPhones and iOS that's better and earlier in iOS than android devices. You just got to pick which breakthrough tech is more important to you and which OS ecosystem is better for you - not just resolution!

50. TheOracle1

Posts: 1917; Member since: May 04, 2015

"And VR is something very little people care about right now. You need to wait till Apple enters that area." -Your assumption is that only Apple can make something popular. You mean the same way they popularized smart watches? NOT! That's arrogance and ignorance on your part. "Value does NOT equal price (or just one handpicked spec). The sooner you realize that, the sooner we become friends." -Why do you assume any one needs your friendship or approval? Arrogance again. I never referred to resolution and don't subscribe to the QHD fan club on a smartphone. Better look for another argument. You're drunk on the Apple Kool-aid.

51. AlikMalix unregistered

I said USUALLY Apple!! The public notices after Apple did it!!! I also confirmed "Not always, but usually". The "be friends thing" that was not serious - it was another way of saying that we can level on the topic. And my reply regarding resolution wasn't toward you originally it was to post #14, way above!

52. TheOracle1

Posts: 1917; Member since: May 04, 2015

"I said USUALLY Apple!! The public notices after Apple did it!!! I also confirmed "Not always, but usually"." - You never said that anywhere in your post whilst referring to VR. I quoted you directly. That's a complete falsehood. You're just clutching at straws to justify a flawed argument. The "be friends thing" that was not serious - it was another way of saying that we can level on the topic. - What's there to "level" on? You defend Apple/IOS blindly like you've been completely brainwashed and no other manufacturer is worth even considering. You never acknowledge that Apple being late to innovate is beginning to hurt them. Now they're about to introduce a dual-sim phone I'm sure you'll find a way to belittle all other dual-sim phones. And my reply regarding resolution wasn't toward you originally it was to post #14, way above! - Your reply was to my post #45. Common English would have you refer to #14 if that's who you were addressing.

53. AlikMalix unregistered

OMG.. dude I replied to #14 originally, but you replaced to that post so I replied to you saying that I was talking about post #14. I said "usually" and "not always" in paragraph 2 post #49. I never claimed what you said that "Apple is the only one". To level, does not mean to agree, but to understand each ones perspective. I don't defend Apple, and redicule plenty of their stuff, I defend my own choice because I'm constantly referred to as sheep because I chooos iPhone. Geez. This got out of hand. All I wanted to point out is iPhone resolution isn't crap and in fact it's very sharp, and I don't require anything higher if it means taxig perfomance.

7. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

Haha, blah blah blah ^^^

11. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"That's a compliment if you think a phone that's outsold any other phone is a flop." Hum, all what I get from that post is blah blah blah excuses. Face it, the iPhone's innovative standpoint has been the most stagnant... It outselling every other smartphone is more about loyalty that the point of post #1

12. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

EDIT: It outselling every other smartphone is more about loyalty than the point of the poster of comment #1: innovation.

26. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

When you want ios on your phone you have no alternative to iPhone. Apple also do everything in its power to lock you in. So yeah no wonder its the single model the most sold wana bet thats if ios was lisenced to others oem apple would make much less sales?

37. AlikMalix unregistered

Ever wonder if Samsung or any android OEM had the balls or ability to create and grow their own ecosystem (instead of getting one for free) they would be successful too? Ever wonder that if they could do that - they would jump at it in a heartbeat? Apple is successful because they build device and ecosystem that works for ME best. Google seems to have no clue what hundreds of million users like me want/need. Loyalty can go only go so far - if what you goons try to make iOS seem to be was actually real - Apple would have lost their mobile business long time ago and turned into WP or BB. I try best of android (as you put) every two years - you guys overhype the s**t out of note and out of android in general.

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