With the Lumia 950/XL and Windows 10 Mobile now a reality, what do you think of Microsoft's chances?


Announced on April 4th of 2014, the Lumia 930 was the acting flagship for Microsoft in the a year and a half leading up to the long-expected refresh in the Lumia 950 and 950 XL. In the interim, Microsoft says it was working harder than ever to ensure that Windows 10 for Mobile really changed things up for the struggling platform. A fine strategy by us — we assume as much by default anyway.

Fast forwarding to today, and we have both these products as a market reality. The Lumia 950 and 950 XL are both available to purchase since late November, and the duo comes with the Windows 10 code pre-loaded. The long wait is over, and though the holiday season is still ahead of us, it'll soon be time to ask some difficult questions. Like, did all the hard work pay off? Is Windows 10 the platform update that finally pushes Microsoft into contested territory? Or is it yet another meaningful, but ultimately futile effort that won't result in a break-up of the status quo?

Of course, it might be true that Microsoft needs more time to get developers —who can now build apps for all Microsoft platforms much easier— to really get down to work and at least narrow the long-standing app gap between Windows for mobile and competing Android and iOS. So we'll probably come back to this topic say, half a year down the line, but for now we'll contend ourselves with an early reading of the public. Said otherwise, that's enough talk —let's vote!

With the Lumia 950/XL and Windows 10 Mobile now a reality, what do you think of Microsoft's chances?

These two are game changers, Microsoft is going places
40.45%
Can't say
36.28%
It's certain now: Microsoft's mobile division is on path to extinction
23.28%



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Lumia 950
  • Display 5.2" 1440 x 2560 pixels
  • Camera 20 MP / 5 MP front
  • Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 808, Hexa-core, 1800 MHz
  • Storage 32 GB + microSDXC
  • Battery 3000 mAh(18h 3G talk time)
Lumia 950 XL
  • Display 5.7" 1440 x 2560 pixels
  • Camera 20 MP / 5 MP front
  • Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 810, Octa-core, 2000 MHz
  • Storage 32 GB + microSDXC
  • Battery 3340 mAh(19h 3G talk time)

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54 Comments

1. sgodsell

Posts: 7519; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Still needs apps, so until then. It's chances are slim at best.

4. Well-Manicured-Man

Posts: 707; Member since: Jun 16, 2015

I think that Microsoft is on the right track but they have not quite reached their final destination yet. Give them three more years and they will be completely competitive. Then they will take share away from Android (the most) and from Apple (the least).

32. DoggyDangerous

Posts: 1028; Member since: Aug 28, 2015

microsoft is always on the right track but they always create new issues before fixing new. Their windows store is legendary slow. For a strange reason, apps take ages to update when you press update button. It is pathetically slow. Internet stop responding for strange reason. Full experience feels very slow. I will give them three years but they will still be trying to achieve the level of ios and android. Windows XP was the best OS they ever have. But to make more money and force customers to purchase the new version, they down grade the whole experience one by one. And since then they are not able to identify that what they should do. They are even not able to decide about start menu button. They are still playing with start menu button, sometime remove it, sometime bringing it back. It look like that microsoft is confused about their own OS.

9. Feanor

Posts: 1412; Member since: Jun 20, 2012

I don't think that the app gap is the problem here. Does anyone think that users would switch collectively to Windows 10 phones, if their app catalogue were complete? I think there are other forces in play here, like hardware design, brand loyalty, support for accessories like smart watches etc.

12. kabel

Posts: 148; Member since: Nov 06, 2011

Exactly. Why should I switch to Windows Phone and re-buy all these apps I have purchased on the platform I currently use? Yep, there are other forces in play, like I do not want to spend money on apps ... So in reality, at least I will never switch to other platform. I do not know for other people ...

14. Mikele

Posts: 184; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

Not only these factors the major changer here is reliable software updates when needed!!!

27. LessThanDoug

Posts: 54; Member since: Dec 03, 2014

Don't forget about iTunes. A large majority of users wouldn't be pleased to have to use Microsoft's software to sync their music to their phone, especially since they won't be able to get all of it on there because of protected files.

37. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Groove music will match what you have, including iTunes collection, and stream it.

43. Jason2k13

Posts: 1469; Member since: Mar 28, 2013

some people will sell their phone if they dont have certain apps on it, like banking app or certain games, or teenagers getting jealous of their friends because they got proper snapchat or instagram, or cant play games that their friends have. So yes the app gap is very important.

24. Spedez

Posts: 542; Member since: Aug 29, 2014

Too late.

45. Bernoulli

Posts: 4362; Member since: Sep 01, 2012

Apps aren't everything, okay maybe if you're American but seriously apps shouldn't be a deciding factor for buying a phone : I'd never chose a phone with mediocre camera just because it can do snapchat.

2. magnanimus

Posts: 565; Member since: Mar 29, 2013

When the phones came out I had the feeling these would change the market due to windows 10 mobile commitment to bringing iOS and Android apps to windows creating another contender in this duopoly, but after seeing reviews of these phones I'm less certain if Microsoft has any chance at all.

3. bur60

Posts: 981; Member since: Jul 07, 2014

Except for design, mainly the snapdragons inside them are at fault. Every phone this year with 808 or 810 is a battery drainer. Even Sony didn't manage to give the z5 great battery life.

15. Mikele

Posts: 184; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

Hmm on the reviews both Phonearena and Gsmarena, the only low point was on design which not bad. The real issues is software updates and quality planning. The period of releasing their products after announcements is worrisome!!!

5. Rafishant

Posts: 402; Member since: Oct 13, 2015

The only interesting and appealing thing about WP was Nokia. I purchased three phones because I was missing Nokia's technologies in Android, like the great hardware, design, camera, HERE, Clear Black display, and many other features. Unfortunately after that acquisition, MS stopped all innovation processes, and the new lines of phones are very boring and lacking the magic touch of Nokia. All in all, WP or whatever called is in its way of extinction.

25. Spedez

Posts: 542; Member since: Aug 29, 2014

Same. I bought Nokia, not Microsoft. MS can keep their phones from now on.

34. Plutonium239

Posts: 1239; Member since: Mar 17, 2015

You don't get it do you? The Lumia 950 and 950XL were designed by Nokia, they were the last Nokia Flagships in the pipeline. All the technologies employed in these phones are nokia technologies, especially the amazing cameras.

6. IAMBLCKJ3ZUS

Posts: 432; Member since: Sep 29, 2015

The poll would be rigged towards hate since trolls love to vote. Truth be told I think the phones are serving their purpose to hold us over till panos phone. Just like the surface it's self you start question why tablets are not a jack of all trades. Now is the time for the first true pocket pc as long as the apps come this truly can be all in one entertainment hub. Really need wireless dongle to max potential of continuum theater set up.

7. vragoljub

Posts: 4; Member since: Mar 26, 2015

I have Lumia 920 and I was set on buying 950xl before it was introduced, but now when it actually came out and first impressions and reviews started coming I don't see any significant reason to upgrade. Continuum is disapointment to me, it is more of a gimmick than useful feature. Hello seems cool but is inconvenient to use, especially in comparison to fingerprint readers. Situation with apps actually got worse, since some apps were removed from app store, others haven't been properly updated in ages. Most initial reviews indicate that Windows 10 is still full of bugs, things like random phone reboots are hapenning. Design of the phone doesn't bother me, I would put it in a case anyway, so... The only thing going for it, from my perspective is camera, and in a couple of months if something noticeably improves I might consider buying it. But for now, I plan to wait to see what will happen with Surface phone, or the next Lumia or whatever, more specifically, if they switch to Intel architecture and are able to bring real desktop experience with Continuum, among other improvements. If not, I will probably switch back to Android, or iOS

35. Plutonium239

Posts: 1239; Member since: Mar 17, 2015

I have no issues with the Iris scanner on my Lumia 950 and it unlocks my device faster than I can swipe up and put in my pin. Many devs have now built Windows 10 universal apps and more and more are coming to the store. The app situation is not dire as you say it is, it is improving.

39. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Because looking at your phone is an inconvenience? Seriously? What do you do? Close your eyes and hope for the best? The reviews are all looking at it as if it was supposed to be some hovercraft in the sea of cars. Continuum is a gimmick for those who wouldn't use it. With a display dock on its way, it will be used everyday in my home. windowscentral does a far far far better job at the 'app gap'. Every day apps are updated to universal status. If nothing else, devs will use it because that is simply how new things will be built. Devs are not going to ignore a billion devices, even if they are pcs. There is millions of programs for a reason. Right now apps solve a problem of a phone, not a problem of programs. PCs for years have had photo editors coming out the ears, switch them to universal and over night it happens. But this is all about the devs. Devs devs. And, the sales problem, right now I am the sole savior of WP at my work, I sell them constantly because I am the one to show them off, without me my work wouldn't sell one unless someone came in and asked for it, and even then they would be directed at overpriced samsungs (grand prime).

8. janis

Posts: 397; Member since: Mar 10, 2014

i used lumia 930, after iphone 5s., i dont use much apps on phone, so my choice was simple, windows is better. if apps is main thing then windows has long way to go, in terms of OS its far more advanced as iphones IOS. after releasing surface book and surface pro 4, apple clearly will lose some stocks it offers so much more now. i think windows has made step in right direction.

44. jugga

Posts: 28; Member since: Dec 11, 2013

Agreed

10. Commentator

Posts: 3723; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

Everybody here (and everybody in the world, for that matter) should honestly answer "can't say." That being said, I like where Win10 Mobile is heading, but I don't think it will see any real market-share relevance for at least five years given the state of the industry.

11. rishav20193

Posts: 242; Member since: Jul 18, 2015

aren't 950 & 950XL the takeovers from nokia acquisition ?? i think the next win 10 phone from MS (completely built by MS) will be really impressive !! fingers crossed & i desparately wish MS to succeed for the sake of competition (even samsung tizen OS)

13. WPX00

Posts: 511; Member since: Aug 15, 2015

I think the 950 isn't Microsoft’s endgame; I firmly believe a Surface Phone was due for the Windows 10 debut, but was delayed and simply couldn't make it, so they took their most premium design prototype for a cheaper Lumia and decked it with flagship specs to pad it out.

16. Switch00

Posts: 536; Member since: Sep 04, 2013

Tried out z5 premium and 950xl today. Z5 premium is great except for back side which looks like a 50 cent mirror from Ikea, while 950xl lags like a drunk and looks like a cheap tv touch-remote.

36. Plutonium239

Posts: 1239; Member since: Mar 17, 2015

Lags? I have not experience any lag at all on my Lumia 950.

49. Switch00

Posts: 536; Member since: Sep 04, 2013

I was very dissapointed to notice that, maybe the one in the store was f..... up. No lag on my 1520.

53. Plutonium239

Posts: 1239; Member since: Mar 17, 2015

Its possible, and its possible the one in the store didn't have the final build on it.

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