Windows Phone 8 may not debut until November
posted by Michael H. / Jul 19, 2012, 5:19 PM
Normally, when a company has an announcement that essentially amounts to "don't buy the current hardware, because it will be obsolete before the end of the year", as Microsoft did with its WP8 announcement, the plan is to push out the new hardware as quickly as possible, because people will be less likely to buy if they know a big update is coming. This is why Apple announces iOS hardware and Google announces Nexus hardware usually within a month or so of when it will be launched. Unfortunately, Microsoft chose the RIM path (never a good choice), and announced on June 20th that current handsets will not get any real updates, just the WP7.8 placeholder. This would make a solid 5 months between that news and the launch of the first wave of WP8 devices.
All About Microsoft, who says that WP8 likely won't get its release to manufacturers (RTM) until September, which would mean no WP8 handsets in stores until November. It would definitely benefit Microsoft to get things ready sooner, because we can't imagine very good Windows Phone sales until WP8 launches.This news comes from Mary Jo Foley at
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Here in the UK there's a Lumia 800 advert almost everyday. Why the hell are they still advertising it when you won't be able to upgrade?
posted on Jul 19, 2012, 5:29 PM 2
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Because it's still a solid phone and not many people will be aware of the WP8 thing. They're not just going to pull all hardware because in several months it won't get a certain update, but will only get an update that is very aesthetically similar.
posted on Jul 19, 2012, 6:23 PM 6
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Honestly, to be fair, WP8 is upgrading in the hardware department more so than the software department. Sure, there is a software upgrade, but most of the shine was the promise of better hard: bigger screens, multicores, microSD support, etc. I'd love for Windows Phone 8 phones to be released sooner rather than later, however, slow and steady wins the race. After all, OEMs are still releasing new phones with Gingerbread preinstalled and a lot of features of iOS 6 won't even be able to be used on the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. Microsoft usually knows what its doing, so let's not count them out yet.
posted on Jul 19, 2012, 6:54 PM 6
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why does Microsoft take so much heat? My GF has a Stratosphere and Samsung has pretty much said that it will not get Ice Cream Sandwich and I have a Droid 4 which is still waiting for ice cream sandwich while Google is readying to release Jelly Bean. It seems google and apple can do no wrong while MS can do nothing right. When I buy a phone I buy one that fits my needs not one that will fit my needs when updated…..
posted on Jul 19, 2012, 7:51 PM 2
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so does this mean we wont se some WP8 Nokia Lumia device? the nokia world will be on september, and if this news is true, nokia has nothing to show on the nokia world event this september.... what will nokia show up on nokia world? some feature phones? new sucky asha touch?(i like the new interface but hate s40, no apps, no multitasking and not competitive to low end android namely samsung galaxy y).... or will they introduce the new linux base OS that they are brewing? the smarterphone team doing (not meltemi) why microsoft why??? please dont keep us hanging on!!!! but when will they release the surface tablet? and its price?
posted on Jul 19, 2012, 8:51 PM 1
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WP 7.5 was enough of an upgrade from Ice Cream... granted 7.8 > 7.5, a solid product continues to shine (even brighter). WP8 is just going to be another level... People will still continue to love WP 7.8, and... All the people who are actually going to be using many of the WP8 only features should have known WP7 would not be upgradeable to WP8... After all a phone with no NFC will not be able to use it - similarly nonexistent hardware was not going to magically appear with a software update.
posted on Jul 19, 2012, 9:36 PM 1
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I wish Microsoft would have just released Windows Phone 7.6 - 7.9 over the course of this year, and brought WP8 in Q4 2013... This would have kept current WP users happy, and given WP some time to mature in time for WP8... Rushing WP8 and isolating current WP users was a bad idea MS... You are a greedy lot... I hope 7.8 comes before WP8... Its the least they can do at this point...
posted on Jul 19, 2012, 10:28 PM 2
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It's better that they are upfront with consumers rather than string them along and then announce they will not get the update closer to the launch of WP8. This benefits us and is by far fair by Microsoft. It may hurt their sales but they are honest. WP8 will rock.
posted on Jul 20, 2012, 12:35 AM 1
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Wow folks this could really hurt Nokia especially. The word is out that the current Windows 7. smart phones will not get upgraded to Windows phone 8 therefore sales of the current smart phones will be terrible for Microsoft must step up to the plate and get windows phone 8 software to it's OEM's by September better still the last week of august. I hope Microsoft does not announce a new product no earlier than 6o days be fore it is on store shelves. Microsft's should have announced the Surface tablet and windows phones 8 in mid September which is a time closer to availability.to buy in the stores.
posted on Jul 20, 2012, 6:45 PM 0
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I think i'm beginning to see the trend of people wanting to change to a new OS other than android and iOS..... Most of friends who are smart and tech savy have a windows phone now. So i'm waiting for windows phone 8 and see how it goes for me. I used to hate windows product due to the fact windows platform did disappointed their consumers.... But when i try the phone for myself and i think it is one hell of a phone actually.
posted on Jul 21, 2012, 9:08 AM 0
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Folks for Nokia's sake at least Microsoft must "RTM" Windows Phone "8" in August because to bring a high ticket Item like a smart phone out in November is suicide because it is too close to the "Christmas" Presents buying season! people are engaged in buying presents for Family, friends, loved ones and business associates. I do not know many People who give People smart phones for Christmas presents. an October Media sales blitz with Nokia bring out the fist Windows 8 smart phone would be Cool. Man of man I would love to have a Nokia Lumia 900 with a high def screen. NFC, Dual core Processor, and a Pure View 12 mega pixel camera. bring it on Baby!
posted on Jul 23, 2012, 6:06 PM 0
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