Will you miss the standard audio jack?

Will you miss the standard audio jack?
It's one thing to hear persistent rumors from multiple sources that Apple will do away with another ancient connectivity standard that gets in its way, or when a company like LeEco outs a phone without an audio jack. It's another feeling entirely, when you actually see this happening in a phone that is poised for the western mainstream. 

The inevitability of it all dawned on us yesterday, when the Moto Z and Moto Z Force were announced. Not only do they sport the trendy USB Type-C connector, but the bog standard 3.5mm audio jack is gone now, for the first time in a mainstream phone. Thankfully, there will be an adapter in the box, so all your current wired headphones and other 3.5mm gear will still be available for you to use with the Moto Z, but with time we will seemingly all have to move to USB-C or Lightning-equipped headphones. Charging and listening to music? Well, we'll see about that, shrugged the phone makers.

That is why we wanted to ask you if you are now Team Jack, Team C or Team Lightning, and how would you react if most phones in the future get rid of the audio jack they have been coming with since forever. Take your pick, and tell us your grievances below.

Will you miss the standard audio jack?

Nooo, hands off my audio jack!
62.5%
Meh, as long as there are adapters...
20.91%
Go wireless, whiners!
16.59%

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64 Comments

1. Atrixboyyy

Posts: 597; Member since: Nov 03, 2011

since im not buying ill keep my headphones besides headphones have been bundled for a long time so they should just continue that or its a money grab...

30. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

It's been done now as none of the big sites like the verge will say anything bad about it being removed, as the iPhone 7 also will have it removed and that will be a load bigger phone

34. michaelny2001

Posts: 328; Member since: Aug 01, 2012

wait so i bought my $299 bose with 3.5 mm and now the jack is gone? No thanks. Chinese brands here i come. One plus 3, Zuk, Le eco, etc.

67. Pabliell

Posts: 184; Member since: Mar 22, 2016

LeEco has ditched the audio jack too. I'm afraid many more will soon follow this trend...

2. Switch00

Posts: 536; Member since: Sep 04, 2013

3.5mm on smartphones was part of evolution. This is strong sign of devolution.

7. GreenMan

Posts: 2697; Member since: Nov 09, 2015

@Switch00 What comes after the evolution? Revolution!!! Yes, there used to be various audio jacks... Each and every company had its own shapes and sizes... It was quite annoying, really! Not only audio jacks, but chargers were different too... Now I plug my Nexus, Lumia & cheap Android Tablet with the same charger...! It seems like Apple is trying to 'polarize' the iPhone Line-up from the rest of the heard just to be distinctive & unique... And I find it rather Primitive & Ancient... Oh well... It's not like I'm going to line-up for iPhone 7, Ha! G'Day!

3. Zylam

Posts: 1816; Member since: Oct 20, 2010

Nice, now the fandroids can't hate on Apple doing it, LOL must be burning inside how a huge potential "Apple is the worst" weapon has been disarmed.

4. XperiaFanZone

Posts: 2277; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

Where were you when they posted the article about ZF not having the adapter and everyone looking down at the phone? We all know that you're one of the insecure Apple boys around when your posts only consist of "LOL fandroids this fandroids that". BTW, "LOL" doesn't hide your insecurity.

6. BradyCrack

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 29, 2015

That's quite ironic.

9. XperiaFanZone

Posts: 2277; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

Please, explain. Virtually all his posts are "LOL now fandroids etc etc etc" when a tiny % of mine are "Apple fans this and that", plus I don't remember calling anyone an iShiip as he call others a fandroid -> I don't see the irony

49. Zylam

Posts: 1816; Member since: Oct 20, 2010

LOL you keep track of my posts, I actually feel warm and fuzzy inside, I was always on the outside of the fanboi wars and never called out, thanks! I'm now a proper part of it all on phone arena. Whichever side of the battle, the fanbois are the worst, I just make fun of everyone, I tell all my apple fanboy friends how apple sucks and vise versa with Samsung fans, both sides are crap. I prefer Android over iOS way more, I have more Android devices than iOS, I've only ever had 3 apple devices in the last 6 years. You need to chill and stop acting like the universe will blow up because someone made fun of Android/Apple/Samsung etc. My post was an obvious joke to anyone that doesn't care about the fanboi wars. I'd take a stock Android phone over an iPhone any day, but the Nexus phones of recent have been horrible and don't stand up the flagships, the 6P was close but way too huge. These New Moto look awesome from every angle except the front, but hopefully the black version hides the massive bezels in real life. As for the 3.5mm, I don't really care, I don't Listern to music so headphones are pretty useless for me.

52. XperiaFanZone

Posts: 2277; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

"LOL you keep track of my posts, I actually feel warm and fuzzy inside, I was always on the outside of the fanboi wars" "LOL", no I keep track of some of mine, so don't flatter yourself, mate ..and of course that's what people like you want us to think. Your second paragraph is like someone saying I have more black friends therefore I'm not racist, but we. You next point isn't really a responded to my comment, it was all "you need to chill" when all I did was point your errors and insecurity. The rest of your comment, and a few above isn't really relevant to mine. I'm ok with people "making fun" of others, but expect a response when there are errors like yours.

59. Zylam

Posts: 1816; Member since: Oct 20, 2010

"Virtually all his posts are "LOL now fandroids etc etc etc" when a tiny % of mine are" Virtually all of his posts... Virtually all of his posts... Those are your words and they certainly sound like you keep track of my posts, did you forget your own comment? Also look how serious you're taking all of this, comparing a bunch of phones to a serious real world problem of racism, making fun of phones hurts Noone (expect for you apparently), making fun of people's ethnicity is something else, the severity of your example proves how much Apple vs Whatever affects you. Before going around calling other people out in bias, take a look in the mirror man, you're not different. But whatever, this is going to go one forever, what do you want? It's beyond evident you're mixed in this fanboi war just as much as the people you try to call out. Everyone should just agree with all your personal preferences, maybe that will make you happy. Talk about sarcasm going over people's heads man, the rumored removal of 3.5 spurred so much hatred in the comments section, now all of a sudden an Android Oem does it, that was the joke buddy, chill out.

60. XperiaFanZone

Posts: 2277; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

"Virtually all of his posts... " I've read a lot of comments here and it's easy for some to tell the kind of comments users make. Can't believe I have to explain something like this to someone, you're only comeback to this is "you keep track of my comment"...but keep flattering yourself...I'm not going to go on about this this any further. "Also look how serious you're taking all of this... " If you've read all parts of my previous comment, you would have known that I said all I was doing was pointing out your flaws of your comment and that your "LOL"s doesn't hide your insecurity...and j also did say that I'm ok with people "making fun" of others, but expect a response when there are errors like yours. With your logic, we should never correct anyone unless it solves hunger problem or eradicates racism, etc. "But whatever, this is going to go one forever, what do you want?..." Read my comment again. you're the one causing it by adding a bunch of irrelevant points to my responses and carrying on assuming things without getting the memo. "Talk about sarcasm going over people's heads " And this paragraph is exactly the flaw I'm talking about from your comment and the fact that you really don't like taking the memo, I've pointed this out before you even made this comment (the last paragraph). Read comment four.

62. Zylam

Posts: 1816; Member since: Oct 20, 2010

None of what you have said here makes any sense whatsoever, do you even know what you're trying to say? It was a joke, do you know what a joke is? Apple was the first to be rumored to remove the headphone jack, massive backlash from Android fans as does anything from Apple, than out of nowhere an Android Oem is the first to so do... Since you want people to reread comments, maybe you should go back and read my original and see how it was just a joke, and jokes don't require logic. You're the one getting so affected personally by a joke and turning this into some werid debate without making any sense at all. Seriously you need to either make sense or chill.

64. XperiaFanZone

Posts: 2277; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

"None of what you have said here makes any sense whatsoever, " Not surprised, someone who needs excessive explaining have a hard time comprehending something written clearly "Ok it was a joke.." Only only a lack of comprehension but easy memory loss.. I know it was only a "joke", but if you wanna make jokes be sure that it won't get backfired and you can defend it..."it's only a joke" isn't a good example, just shows that you have a problem with people correcting you..also I have mentioned that I'm ok with people "joking", but expect it getting backfired when it's one gone wrong like your. Now, please keep this in memo before you repeat your follow ups "it's only a joke," "you need to chill"...because I'm not going to go on about this any further "You're the one getting so affected personally " More proof that you have memory and comprehending problems.

65. XperiaFanZone

Posts: 2277; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

If you can't comprehend my latest comment (64), here's a dumbed down one for you: 1) if you want to defend your jokes-gone-wrong from getting backfired, "it's only a joke" isn't a successful way to do it 2) about your repeated "you need to chill" followups - pointing out incorrections and your disguise of insecurity doesn't mean I'm not chilled nor affected. As mentioned , you turned this into a debate with your irrelevance and false assumptions 3) with your logic, people should not respond to those who are wrong or who posts comments with faults.

66. XperiaFanZone

Posts: 2277; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

Mate, you're fighting a losing battle here, just give it up. I'm not even going to comment after my next response, you're replies aren't really responses.

18. tedkord

Posts: 17356; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

We're not herded like you - when the new Moto was announced to not have one, we immediately stated that we didn't like it and boo'ed the move. See, we tell the manufacturer what we like, the manufacturer doesn't tell us what we like. It's a novel concept, eh?

20. tedkord

Posts: 17356; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Alright, smartphone manufacturers, I'm going to say this as succinctly as I can: STOP MAKING PHONES THINNER! THEY'RE ALREADY TOO THIN! GIVE US BIGGER BATTERIES (OR BETTER BATTERY TECH), AND LEAVE THE 3.5MM PORT ALONE! Can you hear me now?

27. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Agreed!

38. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Double agree!

50. buccob

Posts: 2968; Member since: Jun 19, 2012

besides agreeing with you, i can't believe they use that sad excuse of making them thinner... have you seen an iPod nano recently? my aunt just got one and it is crazy thin while retaining the 3.5mm port... IMO the more ports the better... just like with laptops...

25. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Zylam you are truly moronic if you beleive this. I love Android and hate Apple. I wanted the new Moto Z but now not anymore. I wont buy a phone whitout 3.5 mm audio jack end of the story. Excuse they give to make it thinner i saw phone under 7 mm with audio jack!

31. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

The apple phone getting thicker and it's being removed the moto z is only 5.2 and the 3.5 is in the box So if Apple does not do the same and try and charge this is very bad Also it's not good as they will not be using USB-type c On top of this the phone will be thicker?

5. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

I hate to bring additional adapter just to use headphones.. and wireless headphones still inferior compared to cable headphones (and wireless headphone can run out of battery) and it cant use phone's internal DAC android users have tons of phone to choose tough, maybe not all manufacturer will remove that audio jack.. and even if all flagships remove it, I'll choose midranger with audio jack, lol

35. sgodsell

Posts: 7365; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Just leave the 3.5 mm adapter on the headphones. Very simple, solution solved. Besides I moved away from a wire years ago with Bluetooth headset. Besides the DAC being in all smartphones, if you use USB-C, then you can put the DAC right on the headphones.

46. xondk

Posts: 1904; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

Yeah, you got to wonder though if the removal of headphone jack is a way to save money, though i can't imagine it saving any, unless they are redesigning the DAC in the newer phones to be simpler/cheaper? though last I checked now a days the DAC's are in the SOC, so yeah....only real reason seems to be the whole 'thinner!' thing? I mean several companies have proven that the minijack can be very versatile and can allow a large assortment of peripherals not just headsets, so yeah...do not get it.

8. sebbellic01

Posts: 305; Member since: May 03, 2016

Just need an adapter and I'll be fine.

10. DeDex

Posts: 121; Member since: Sep 01, 2014

I was hoping they would keep the audio jack a bit longer. There are a ton of nice or cheap (or both) wired headphones out there, and having to buy an adapter and not forget it when you move somewhere is a bit of a pain. I don't want to give up my headphones, or to have to choose between charging my phone and using headphones. That is my conservative self. On the other hand, I get that some things have to change at some point. After all, the 3.5mm jack connector is more than 50 years old, and keeping an analog connector these days mean that you have to embed a DAC to your phone, which an inconvenient additional constraint for cost as well as thinness. It makes sense to try to get rid of it at some point, though the phone and headphone manufacturers need to be clever about that (for instance, put 2 charging ports instead of one on phones, or add an adapter of some sort on (or with) the headphone cable to grant a free charging port, even with headphones plugged in. I do not know how they could to it properly, but this is something they need to address. My biggest concern is that as long as USB-C and Lightning compete with each other, there will be no consensus, no widely-adopted standard, and the market will be split between USB-C headphones and Lightning headphones. With this market segmentation, I believe that wireless, agnostic headphones are going to take the lead, which I am not comfortable with since most wireless solutions tend to provide a noticeable latency.

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