What's this big dark blurry device in the Nokia Lumia 920 PureView camera sample?

What's this big dark blurry device in the Nokia Lumia 920 PureView camera sample?
Nokia has just unveiled its Lumia 920 with what it’s calling PureView Phase II, a reimagined PureView sensor that’s using a slightly different magic than what we’ve already seen in the Nokia 808 PureView.

Earlier, Nokia teased us with a mysterious video showing a pretty girl carelessly and cheerfully riding a bicycle and smiling at a cameraman. Now, then, we guessed this was the first video sample of the Lumia 920 with its PureView camera and turns out that we were right on the money.

Nokia has now shown footage of the same scene captured with the great optical image stabilization on the Lumia 920 and its PureView Phase II camera (we definitely want to stress the difference between this and the 808 PureView), and a competitor smartphone without the image stabilization.

Now, interestingly, upon closer inspection for a fraction of the second you could see a passing reflection in the van right behind the girl. In that reflection, you can see what looks like the cameraman holding a big black object. Now, all logic says that the reflection should be of a man holding a Nokia Lumia 920. Yet the blurry image raises some questions - that big dark object might seem a bit too big to be the handset. We are not saying it’s not, but we definitely have some doubts.

What do you think? Is this enough reason to suspect some cheating with the video making on Nokia’s part? We’ve reached out to Nokia and Damian Dinning for a comment and will update you when and if we get a response.

Thanks to our commenters tech-head for the good catch and aokde for the screen grab.


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Lumia 920
  • Display 4.5" 768 x 1280 pixels
  • Camera 8.7 MP / 1.3 MP front
  • Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Plus, Dual-core, 1500 MHz
  • Storage 32 GB
  • Battery 2000 mAh(10.8h 3G talk time)

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32 Comments

1. Diego!

Posts: 866; Member since: Jun 15, 2009

Is he reading a special edition of Playboy? :P

2. akita256

Posts: 98; Member since: Jan 26, 2012

Boy, oh Boy...........this could get interesting!

3. dragonscourgex

Posts: 307; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

Haha, that's funny. It looks to big to be a Nokia Lumia 920. You never know.

4. groupsacc

Posts: 232; Member since: Feb 28, 2012

lol Busted

5. joseph98

Posts: 167; Member since: Feb 03, 2012

Why contact nokia. If I was you I will try to contact this hot model. She was there and she can tell you with what they shoot this picture. :)

6. som

Posts: 768; Member since: Nov 10, 2009

Yellow, red or blue phone look like a toy I will not buy it.

31. thai-khmer

Posts: 2; Member since: Sep 04, 2012

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7. stole38

Posts: 14; Member since: Sep 01, 2012

oh nokia , you've done it now :D haha this will get messy ! spread it out :D

8. joseph98

Posts: 167; Member since: Feb 03, 2012

BTW nokia stock is down 10% and that is simply because they never listen. We said we wants pureview with at least 21 MP sensor, not an 8 MP cam. I was so excited to buy this lumia 920 but for now no thanks I pass.

9. joseph98

Posts: 167; Member since: Feb 03, 2012

And yes Nokia 808 pureview is a competitor to this new Lumia 920. Put windows phone 8 in Nokia 808 and I will be more interested on buying it than lumia 920.

18. sadaivadai

Posts: 156; Member since: Nov 22, 2011

The phone is already 10.8 mm thick and 185 grams ...

20. lumialove

Posts: 75; Member since: May 16, 2012

the F/2.0 aperture is the lowest found any smartphone. Think of aperture as how “open” a lens can get—the more open, the more light comes in. That’s crucial as light is what camera’s crave and is the key to getting a good image. You want to buy an expensive lens for your DSLR? Search for one with an F/1.4 aperture—basically the lower the number, the better. Reaching F/2.0 on a camera-phone is a pretty big deal, make no mistake about it. It will also greatly help to make your photos better as the shutter speed can go faster. back-side illuminated sensors (BSI) —it’s what is found on the iPhone, Titan II and many Samsung phones. It puts the wires behind the sensor, allowing more light to be received and once again, making brighter photos. We’ve wanted Nokia to do this for a very long time and now they have. The Lumia 900, Lumia 920 and 808 PureView Sensor size is also crucial. Here, the bigger the better and the fact is, most smartphones have tiny sensors. Why do some “pro” DSLRs cost so much? It’s because they have a giant sensor (it’s also why they’re so big). The Lumia 920 sports a 1/1.4” sensor that beats many phones who roll with a smaller 1/2.5”. That brings us to megapixels… Photographers hate megapixel discussions because it’s all consumers focus on, instead of all of the above. It’s often the least important aspect as those pixels won’t improve your photo much. It’s good for cropping, yes, but other than that? Nokia said they could have added more than the 8MP to that 1/1.4” sensor, as some of their competitors have on their devices. But as we mentioned last night, jamming more megapixels on a sensor can have negative consequences, like reduce image quality. The more pixels on a sensor, the more light you need to illuminate them all. In turn, cameras with high megapixel count tend to have worse low-light performance. That’s right folks, putting 16MP or 32MP into a camera can be a bad thing, especially if it’s on a small sensor. No, Nokia took the good route here—the one that photographers would have preferred: larger, BSI sensor with less megapixels so there is less noise in low light conditions. Throw in their whole “Floating lens”, which is a mechanical form of image stabilization (aka better than software based) and we’re talking a whole new category of a camera phone. I'VE seen some of the images and so far, I really like what we see. Expect more in the future

22. joseph98

Posts: 167; Member since: Feb 03, 2012

Ok you said ( The more pixels on a sensor, the more light you need to illuminate them all). I say then put a xenon flash instead of LED and problem is solved as we all know that xenon deliver more light than LED and I know that xenon has a very short flash duration, typically 50 – 100microsec while LED has a longer period with a flash pulse of up to ~100msecs. I think Nokia need to solve this issue not me. And yes I want to use this extra MP for cropping. I am keeping my galaxy note 1 and no more toys for me unless samsung make something new with this WP8 because I didn't like Samsung ATIV smart phone neither. I still like Samsung Galaxy note 2 but I have the note 1 so I will wait for something new...Maybe GN3 or more promising WP8 than was released so far.

26. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

so Xeone u say it in ur comment it has typically 50-100microsec on time but i heard the lens of this camera stay on longer due to floating lens tech but dont know how long maybe reason is that more light + longer time the light = what this tech needed i dont say i am correct but i think it might be half truth

29. andygallo

Posts: 39; Member since: Oct 21, 2011

@lumialove Correction, the 920 has a 1/3" sensor size... http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia920/specifications/ ...which is only slightly larger than the iPhone/SGS3's 1/3.2" sensor. This would be my biggest single complaint about this camera: I wish Nokia put in at least a 1/2.5" sensor and flat out obliterated the competition. Other than that the specs look really good. Agreed on the other points: it's more important to focus on sensor, aperture and lens quality rather than getting into another megapixel race. 8MP is plenty for a phone camera.

10. xtian1103

Posts: 364; Member since: Feb 11, 2012

that's a nokia tablet

11. jos_031

Posts: 62; Member since: Jun 12, 2012

The reflection contains both the camera man and the girl. If you remember the webcast, the output was shown with both digital stabilization and optical stabilization. Also in some part of the webcast they also showed a stand technology which holds the both devices. the reflection is having high probability that it is that setup. The article was really of low standard from phonearena. Just see the webcast link you posted once again before making hasty articles

17. sunco

Posts: 2; Member since: Sep 05, 2012

Exactly what I think.. a special device with two (or three) cellphones

21. lsguntu

Posts: 67; Member since: Aug 06, 2012

You are spot on .I am surprised PA sent an email to Nokia about this.

24. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

PA is news web they need the hype no matter what it is if a phones burns in someones home this PA will have the news all over it and same goes with suspision here they will not verify but jump to conclusion

12. TylerGrunter

Posts: 1544; Member since: Feb 16, 2012

Ummm, it could be some external "camera stabilizer", to technically they would be still shooting with the Lumia 920 but getting better results than with just the " Optical Image Stabiliser" inside the phone. So that people get an idea, something like this:http://14dollarstabilizer.org/

25. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

yes but there are still car bumps which it will take

13. blackeye117

Posts: 13; Member since: Dec 24, 2011

well , i think its the same rig that we saw on one of the pictures before where it had SGIII and Nokia. May Guess is on that one , and yeah if you question the IS capabilities then dont bcoz nokia showed some other scenes of comparision as well .dont forget that well that just my take on this one

14. nabkawe

Posts: 3; Member since: Sep 05, 2012

Actually in that same picture it shows how you're just trolling , the girl is looking at the camera which at the time of this shot she's not looking at it ... I'd say the phone was on the passenger seat ... which is cheating , but it's not the same level of cheating .

15. kanagadeepan

Posts: 1244; Member since: Jan 24, 2012

OMG... You too NOKIA...

16. IliyaBeshkov

Posts: 261; Member since: Jul 09, 2012

I am little confused too about this frame from the nokia commercial... but don't blame them, because all smartphone companies are overrating there flagships too! Example: HTC with it's camera, Apple, Samsung... Everybody wants attention on their gadgets !!! Don't think I'm on the side on Nokia... just saying! :)

19. trollzsuck

Posts: 1; Member since: Sep 05, 2012

RETARDS!!!! it's a camera man. The add shows 2 people riding a bike...1 guy and 1 girl. the video demos show the difference when the OIS is on and off (that video is from the lumia 920. The guy riding the bike is recording the girl on the bike) the camera man is recording both of them riding bikes. IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM did they say that segment of the clip is recorded with the Lumia 920. some of you are so stupid...now stop trolling.

23. LedWaters

Posts: 1; Member since: Sep 05, 2012

i think theyre using 2 phones at the same time, S3 vs Nokia 920 video recording?

27. devorama

Posts: 19; Member since: Aug 06, 2012

If you watch the video on youtube in 720P quality and pause it, you can see as it pans across that there is girl on a bike, and a white van with a camera man and a larger camera. There is no reflection of a man on a bike. So it does appear that the stabilized video was shot by the camera in the van, not on a bike. Perhaps the cameraman in the van was using a Nokia phone, but it does appear to be a large camera. At any rate, the video is misleading because it wants you to believe the video was recorded by the man on the bicycle and not from a heavy van with shocks and struts.

28. devorama

Posts: 19; Member since: Aug 06, 2012

In their blog, they admit the video was not shot with the 920. http://conversations.nokia.com/2012/09/05/taking-pureview-to-the-next-level/ "Note: The Lumia 920 pictures in this post were taken using prototype hardware and software, and then reduced dramatically in size. In addition, the OIS video, above, was not shot using the Lumia 920."

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