Verizon fighting through LTE difficulties

Verizon fighting through LTE difficulties
New technologies always seem to pose new problems and that is the case as Verizon is fighting through the struggles of LTE in an attempt to release their 4G capable handsets during the first half of the year.

The first LTE enabled smartphone to hit the Verizon network is supposed to the HTC Thunderbolt, but it has been delayed numerous times. Verizon CTO Tony Melone said that LTE handsets are still on track to be launched during the first half of the year. Here is what he had to say:

I guess our expectations change, but we had said first half of this year at CES, quite frankly, we think that exceeded people’s expectations. A year ago, people didn’t believe that there would be LTE smartphones in 2011. First half of the year is what we promised; first half of the year is still on track. So we don’t believe there are any new or surprising issues. I think what we’re facing is what you would expect, and that is a new technology, you are working through issues. And we anticipated that, and we are pleased at how we are working through issues. And as I said, you are going to see LTE smartphones on the network as promised, before the first half — before the second half of the year, by the end of the second quarter.

There should be no surprise that there are issues to work through since this is generally the case with new technology. Tell us what you think in the comments below.

source: ZDNet via Mobile Burn

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105 Comments

117. chuckchizzle

Posts: 8; Member since: Mar 17, 2011

The Commish sucks for any Apple product. I push Droid all day over the I phone

108. beatlesfan

Posts: 150; Member since: Mar 03, 2011

I think a lot of it has to do with wanting to deplete current inventory. Verizon is running ads for the Droid Incredible that were ran BEFORE the phone even launched back in the summer months. I think they are wanting to get rid of as many 3G smartphones before they roll out the 4G. However, I do not think this is the only factor. As many have said before it has to do with Verizon's want and need to maintain the image as the most reliable network. Would you rather them launch a phone now on a network that may not be ready for it (i.e. the delay going from 4g to 3g), or them wait a few weeks until it is perfected? As for the conspiracy theory that they are waiting to release 4g phones until they launch the tiered data, I have trouble believing that. Wouldn't it just make more sense to go ahead and launch the tiered data now, not wait til summer and push phones back til then also? In my opinion they are waiting for the iPhone 5 to launch the tiered data if they tier data at all. AT&T got away with it because they claimed the excess traffic from the iPhone was congesting the network (rightfully so), so Verizon could do the same with the iPhone 5 perhaps. Just a few of my thoughts on this issue.

94. Kain unregistered

not that you mentioned sprint. it's just that there is obvious anti verizon bias in your posts. and that's fine too. i still don't see the bait and switch part of it though. They never claimed to have it in store. only that it's "coming soon." you clearly know how to use the internet. most responsible shoppers (yourself included) will do their research before making a major purchase. so if you bought something without doing your research, is that the retailers fault? they're not responsible for peoples' stupidity. as far as legit business practices go...it's called marketing, and all legit companies do it. The thing is, VZW didn't make any false claims in their advertisements, so i don't see why this is an issue

85. steven252000

Posts: 64; Member since: Feb 10, 2010

Hmmm......wasn't there a posting about tiered data plans coming by summer? Another conspiracy theory is that they are trying to get the new plans in place before they release any of the new 4G phones? Who freaking knows. If it looks like that is the case I may have to weigh my options.

90. Das70

Posts: 124; Member since: Jan 05, 2011

Agreed. I think this is exactly what they are doing. Im surprised it took 85 replies for someone to mention it.

98. snowgator

Posts: 3630; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Now, if there is any real reason for the delay besides tech problems, that one makes the most sense. Worth keeping an eye on, no doubt....

77. BaiGanyo

Posts: 308; Member since: Feb 07, 2011

Hell, at this rate with verizon, we'll be on 5g before that happens

93. luis_lopez_351

Posts: 951; Member since: Nov 18, 2010

we havent even got 4g speeds yet ???

75. luis_lopez_351

Posts: 951; Member since: Nov 18, 2010

first phones are always failures :) wait for the 3rd LTE device -__-

73. VZWFTW

Posts: 17; Member since: Aug 15, 2010

It's not a scam. It's an advertisement. Sure the Thunderbolt has been advertised like crazy but in any of those ads do you see a release date? No. It's ultimatley up to the customer to make the decision to come into the store to inquire about the device. Verizon is in no way to blame. They never promised anything about the thunderbolt. All we have heard is phonearena's speculation on what they've heard from a "source" about when the Thunderbolt will be released.

76. BaiGanyo

Posts: 308; Member since: Feb 07, 2011

Its scam advertising 4g all the time to keep up with the other companies who are way ahead, and then not really having it except at sky high prices no one is stupid enough to sign up for. I don't know if they even have ANY 4g deployed in a substantial way. They're a fraud. I agree, its an advertisement. It's a false advertisement. I'm talking 4g in general, not slumberbolt.

88. Kain unregistered

I guess i don't see where the false advertisement is. I've never seen a commercial or ad that says "4g phones in store now." Like previous posters have mentioned, they've shown the thunderbolt...but without a release date. is a "scam" advertising lte products (which they do have) any worse than a company advertising hspa+ as 4g? and are the prices really "sky high" to the point that only stupid people sign up for them? If you like sprint that much, there's nothing wrong with that. But calling them a fraud because you allege false advertisement is a little much. Let's keep in mind, there's a reason sprint isn't the number one carrier in America right now...

92. BaiGanyo

Posts: 308; Member since: Feb 07, 2011

Show me where I ever said like Sprint at all. There's lot of good reasons sprint isn't number one, I agree. Never saying buy implying something is available is the first key in running a bait and switch. "uh, we never said we had more than one available" and such nonsense just isn't the way legit companies do business.

95. Kain unregistered

not that you mentioned sprint. it's just that there is obvious anti verizon bias in your posts. and that's fine too. i still don't see the bait and switch part of it though. They never claimed to have it in store. only that it's "coming soon." you clearly know how to use the internet. most responsible shoppers (yourself included) will do their research before making a major purchase. so if you bought something without doing your research, is that the retailers fault? they're not responsible for peoples' stupidity. as far as legit business practices go...it's called marketing, and all legit companies do it. The thing is, VZW didn't make any false claims in their advertisements, so i don't see why this is an issue...sorry for the double post

70. BaiGanyo

Posts: 308; Member since: Feb 07, 2011

Its a scam. Bait and switch. Advertise one thing to get you in the door and then try to convince you don't need it and to sell you some 10 year tech at a jacked up price. The FTC needs to look at them.

65. Tim in CO unregistered

I think it is really wrong for Verizon to run ads claiming to have 4G, then you go to get it, they try to unload a 3G device on you and (don't) say you will be eligible for a 4G device in 2 years.

67. Tre-Nitty

Posts: 470; Member since: Nov 16, 2010

I think Verizon and AT&T are guilty of this. I have the inspire 4G and it gets average of 2.7mbps download but it's a 4G(hspa+) device. That's the reason I bought it off contract though because when AT&T releases LTE later this year, if they have a good amount of LTE support i'll pick up a LTE device.

91. clevername

Posts: 1436; Member since: Jul 11, 2008

That's probably your area and not the inspire itself. You may be in an area that doesn't even get att's 7.2 HSPA much less their HSPA+ coverage. Other areas get twice that on 3G phones.

57. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

Oh and Verizon was not offered the iPhone originally. Unlike most of your unfounded ridiculous claims I'm going to post a sources. Source = proof for the dumber trolls on here. http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/11_04/b4212032719210.htm

55. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

Fandroid trolls are out strong today. An article about LTE and Thunderbolt turns into an Apple bashing thread.

54. Me... unregistered

Funny how the article is about LTE/delay of hTC Thunderbolt and Apple gets mentioned....

61. fairly mismatched unregistered

That would be due to the perception that Verizon is catering to Apple by holding off release of a highly anticipated phone in order to bolster sales of the iPhone a little while longer. As Verizon has working 4G air cards that would mean that their LTE network is up an running well enough to institute sales of devices for data consumption. And, as the Thunderbolt would presumably have working 2G/3G like all of its other phones VZW has then it should be a working handset even in a poor 4G coverage area. Given that, it's possible the perception has some merit. Also... Sprint and WiMax were also mentioned in the commentary. No one was singled out.

40. Gary unregistered

HTC was smart to just stick some extra ram and a new radio in the EVO and call it the Thunderbolt. By the time Verizon gets LTE working, no one will want a single core phone anymore. Total waste of time for everyone.

45. in the know unregistered

Don't be so quick to jump on the "Dual Core" bandwagon. The benefits of dual core processors relating to the the Android Operating System will not be fully realized untill the release of Android Ice Cream Sandwich (don't ask me what the # is). Technically it is actually Honeycomb...but that is a Tablet OS, not a Smartphone OS. Any Android OS prior to Ice Cream Sandwich does not know how to partition the data streams to the 2 seperate processors, so it treats them as one. Basically there is not user identifiable benefit to dual core processors....not improvement in speed and no imporivement in battery life. Manufacturers are only required to make their devices upgradable to 1 OS rev. So anything running Froyo will only be upgradable to Gingerbread. I'm somewhat confused with the Motorola Bionic because they have stated it will launch with Froyo. Only being upgradable to Gingerbread doesn't reep the benefits of dual core processing. I can't see a manufacturer allowing a device to upgrade to multiple revs??? They want us to keep buying devices....obviously thats how they make money. I have a feeling it is strictly a marketing ploy to get us to buy. "If its dual core....it must be better" At the same time, the dual core chips are far more costly to buy, so I don't understand why they would even bother using them. Any thoughts from the peanut gallery?

58. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Hmm. I don't know enough about computers to confirm what you say as true, but I certainly hope that phones like the Bionic deliver on processing speed.

89. clevername

Posts: 1436; Member since: Jul 11, 2008

Most of what he says is true. Current OS versions are not capable of multi threading. They can't take advantage of the dual core and will see a small speed boost. But no real user identifiable boost. The OS must be built to take advantage of it. However I do not believe Gary is correct about the "1 revision" thing. HTC and motorola have both upgraded devices more than once. THe moto droid came out with 2.0 if I'm not mistaken and is currently running 2.2. Albeit in a limited capacity. Same goes for the EVO. I could be wrong, but I believe the incredible also fits the bill but like I said, I could be wrong on that. Samsung is N/A in this and so is LG as they don't really update handsets regularly. With the exception of the droid I believe moto and HTC only care if it has the ram and at least a 1ghz processor.

97. snowgator

Posts: 3630; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Very thoughtful write up on dual core processors, 'in the know". I have read several different discussions on why the advantages of these dual core phones may not actually be for another year or so, but yours made the most sense to me. Dual core certainly isn't bad, as a matter of a fact I think they are almost required seeing the direction the mobile industry is going. But if there is no support for them now, will there be updates for these devices when there is?

107. in the know unregistered

As far as I know, its all up to the manufacturers and more importantly....the carriers. They really call the shots. VZW is notorious for product testing and that includes software/OS upgrades. Just ask anyone at Samsung. VZW has had the Fascinate Froyo upgrade in their lab for months and are afraid to pull the trigger on it because of all the Droid Xs that got "bricked" with it's OTA upgrade to Froyo. Ruturned devices cost the carriers $$$$ Everyone is blamming Samsung, when it is really the carrier's call. I personally think people should wait for a device with a dual core processor to launch with icecream. That will be the device to have. I"m testing a dual core device with gingerbread and it's no faster than a single core. By the way.....can you direct me to any of those articals you mentioned. Would like to do some more research on this topic. thanks

24. beatdameat unregistered

Stina you are an idiot. They do get shipped from verizon's "warehouse".

30. BaiGanyo

Posts: 308; Member since: Feb 07, 2011

"eventually Verizon will offer an LTE iPhone. Eventually, the 3G speed will be obsolete and Verizon will only run on LTE." That is so fucking profound, she must have a crystal ball to know all of that insider information. She's the smartest person I've ever met. I wonder if she'll marry me?

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