The death of RT? Microsoft says there won't be three versions of Windows in the future
posted by Michael H. / Nov 23, 2013, 2:34 PM
Julie Larson-Green is a voice to pay attention to from within Microsoft. Not only is she the Executive Vice President of the Devices and Studios division, but she was regarded as one of, if not the top internal choice to replace Steve Ballmer as CEO until Stephen Elop became an inside candidate with the Nokia acquisition. And, at the UBS Global Technology Summit, Larson-Green talked about the plans for the future of Windows:
Most of that quote is extremely vague, except for one thing: "We're not going to have three." There are two possible plans to take from this quote: either all three versions of Windows will converge at some point like Ubuntu; or, just Windows Phone and RT are going to converge, and full desktop Windows will continue on. We would think that the second is the more likely scenario, at least in the short term. In the longer term, you can never rule out complete convergence.
Larson-Green also teased some "really exciting things" in hardware for next year, but didn't give any indications as to what that might mean.
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So is Windows RT going to be part of Windows 8/future versions or is Windows phone going to become RT?
posted on Nov 23, 2013, 2:38 PM 0
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I would say RT will become WP. Not the other way around. Not that I am in the know or anything.l
posted on Nov 23, 2013, 3:02 PM 10
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In essence, no one knows, and likely will not know for a while. All we know is that there are 2 versions of windows and no one wants to design for 2 and therefore, they are haemorrhaging their own development. All they have said here is tablet and phone is GOING to be the same, but if that doesn't combine with their desktop, where is the real unique advantage of windows phones OS.
posted on Nov 23, 2013, 3:12 PM 0
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They could just be going back to there roots. In the past, Windows (the main version) used to support many different chip architectures from ARM, x86, among others. Though, this was wayyyyyyy back when (the first few versions of windows, before Intel crushed the competition).
posted on Nov 23, 2013, 3:15 PM 0
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Glad i didn't took on M$ offer of a $200 RT1. After doing my research i just can't find a fit for it on my day to day use. My Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 plays a better role as a tablet as RT1 is huge and heavy plus limited codec; i do have a video collection in real player; rm format which is incompatible with RT1 and their 289 collection of apps.
posted on Nov 23, 2013, 8:08 PM 0
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"RT is the Honeycomb of Windows: Microsoft needed a cheaper option for tablets, but didn't have time to do it properly." Well for starters, MS just didn't do that. Instead they decided to take on the market leaders with their pricing, which is ridiculous considering it couldn't run legacy windows apps except office, along with the the lack of a good library of apps. Surface and RT had potential. But MS ruined it completely. Surface 2 and L2520 will be another futile attempt at keeping the OS alive. JMHO.
posted on Nov 23, 2013, 3:00 PM 3
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I have heard that Windows phone 8,1 and windows RT would merge into a single OS that can be used on both. In other words with modifications of this new OS an APP can be used on a Windows smart phone and the APi's changed a bit to it will work on a tablet. Hmm sounds great for those who want to make Apps for Windows 8.1 Mobile devices
posted on Nov 23, 2013, 3:39 PM 1
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Its because Intel tablets running x86 windows cost the same price so RT is pointless because Arm is worse.
posted on Nov 23, 2013, 4:02 PM 0
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care to mention a x86 equivalent to the Surface RT that cost the same ?
posted on Nov 23, 2013, 5:08 PM 0
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Dell's Windows 8.1, quad-core tablet now on sale for $299 http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57608232-75/dells-windows-8.1-quad-core-tablet-now-on-sale-for-$299/
posted on Nov 24, 2013, 4:33 AM 0
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HP omni 10" full HD 10" display , windows 8.1 , $399 ..you were saying?... http://www.microsoftstore.com/
posted on Nov 24, 2013, 1:10 PM 0
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Windows RT is the same code as windows 8, but recompiled for ARM processors, and have a restriction of installing WIN32 applications, only accepts metro apps (it can however be cracked to run legacy applications recompiled for ARM, as it have the same Windows API). Windows phone have the same kernel (NT kernel) with Windows 8, but does not contain all the WIN API, and can't run legacy windows applications by any means. Windows RT is needed because intel processors and hardware are not yet as power efficient and cheap as ARM processors and hardware. When intel made hardware suitable for tablets and portable devices(they are close now), Windows RT will have no point.
posted on Nov 23, 2013, 5:08 PM 4
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it's a sad fact commonly known that M$ purposely crippled RT. Should full blown windows able to run on ARM platform, it would have good sales to pick up where notebooks left off
posted on Nov 23, 2013, 7:20 PM 0
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this is because most windows legacy programs arent compatible with ARM processors. So yea, RT does have a more limited experience, but it would be more consumer friendly than just putting on a full blown windows os onto an arm processor device.
posted on Nov 25, 2013, 2:22 PM 0
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we know they're merging Windows phone and Windows itself together(which just happens to include RT), and have known for almost a year now, @wongdg Windows RT is not purposely crippled, original Windows desktop applications simply do not run on ARM processors without being recompiled and the developers have shown throughout 10 years that they cannot be trusted to re-write desktop applications in a manner that respects power efficiency, thus no Proper Desktop in Windows RT. 15 years in the future, Desktop itself may become "optional" or "legacy" on Windows itself, replaced by the new environment(which Microsoft Still hasn't come up with a blasted replacement name for so i'll call it Metro again).
posted on Nov 23, 2013, 8:39 PM 0
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This change will make sense following other platforms. Tablets and Phones should have the same OS based on ARM processors, while full windows should be only a full windows without the RT nonsense.
posted on Nov 24, 2013, 5:47 AM 0
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This doesn't exactly strengthen consumer confidence in the rt products on the market now =/ This exec shouldn't have made this comment, IMO, and especially not a week before the busiest tech shopping weekend of the year.
posted on Nov 24, 2013, 8:34 AM 0
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