Samsung working on the second S Pen stylus generation, to fool the screen it is touched with a finger

Samsung working on the second S Pen stylus generation, to fool the screen it is touched with a finger
Samsung patent submitted before the USPTO reveals that the company might have already developed the second generation of its famed S Pen stylus for capacitive touchscreens. The first S Pen can be found on the Galaxy Note 5.3" phone, but the patent reveals many more features that might be coming for the next Note or tablets like the Galaxy Note 10.1 that might use it.

The next S Pen is bound to have NFC connectivity, and a built-in clip for voice communication, like the stylus on the Asus PadFone, which can be used as a headset for talks.

What's more, there will be a conductive ePen Grip rubbery material towards the tip, which will be sending micro-current from your body to the capacitive display, thus fooling it that it is touched with a finger, and eliminating or reducing the lag that is often associated with these styli.

source: PatentBolt



19. thelegend6657 unregistered

Samsung should stop copying asus Or Asus should patent its ideas?

7. destr0y3r

Posts: 33; Member since: Jun 12, 2012

Fandroids : wwwooow its revolutionary!

8. plgladio

Posts: 314; Member since: Dec 05, 2011

Yeah when Apple names that after few years live by other Company.

10. frydaexiii

Posts: 1476; Member since: Dec 01, 2011

Of cause it's revolutionary. Comparing this stylus's "revolutionary" and iOS 6's "revolutionary" is like comparing the creation of a real car and a Hot Wheels model.

6. jmoita2

Posts: 930; Member since: Dec 23, 2011

That's pretty cool, and I guess it will be a Godsent for those with certain disabilities that makes it hard or impossible to use digits. I prefer using my fingers, though.

9. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

If it's hard or impossible to use with digits, then it wouldn't be a stylus. That's why software is the way to go.

2. PimpStrong

Posts: 310; Member since: Jul 25, 2011

Samsung is breathing new life into NFC and Stylus technologies. Apple will put it into iOS7 and call it their Magic Wand.

3. kyan-

Posts: 79; Member since: Apr 25, 2012


4. PimpStrong

Posts: 310; Member since: Jul 25, 2011

lol nice

12. Sangeet

Posts: 232; Member since: Apr 21, 2012

LOL, exactly the same thing came to my mind after reading PimpStrong's comment made me laugh so hard..!! and a it more funny with the Registered, Copyright and the TM mark. LOL!!

15. jukenon

Posts: 3; Member since: Jun 14, 2012


23. hiBreed

Posts: 90; Member since: May 29, 2012

Lol! Good one

22. hiBreed

Posts: 90; Member since: May 29, 2012

My thoughts exactly

1. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

You mean Samsung is working on a pen that most people use with their hand (typically a thumb and a few other digits) just to fool the screen that it's only one digit. A lot of these features are typically solved by software as opposed to hardware.

5. nicholassss

Posts: 368; Member since: May 10, 2012

Well I cant think off the top of my head of any but it might be useful in a situation where you need a little more accuracy. Since the pad of your fingers is broader than the stylus.

11. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

I can think of several situations where you might use a stylus like a resistive touchscreen. The last time I used a stylus with a resistive screen was the Nintendo DS series. Good riddance.

13. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

I dont know, I kinda dig the idea a bit, if it helps improve the non intrusive input from lets say your other hand It could "revolutionize " how we use tablets for work, to be honest a tablet with a stylus (more than a phone and probably 7") could be awesome to take handwritten notes like notebook, and the stylus input method being similar to a pen makes it more comfortable to write it down instead of type it down, add a powerful OCR system and say bye bye to the on screen keyboard and hello to the new speed

17. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

protozeloz, you want the manufacturer to go backwards. Technology is about advancement. Everything you stated such as "take handwritten notes" or "instead of type it down", etc can be solved with better software. We don't need an on screen keyboard or a stylus if the software does a better job with voice, dictation, etc. The problem is the software is not ready yet.

14. pegasso

Posts: 285; Member since: Nov 27, 2011

it would be usefull if you're using your phone/tablet in cold winter.

16. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

They aleady have gloves that can work with smartphones in the cold winter. Here's an example:

18. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2566; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

I guess you're not a Galaxy Note owner, or else you would see that this would be a pretty significant upgrade. The current S-Pen on the Galaxy Note is good, but I can tell a difference between writing with the pen and writing with my finger. There is more lag when writing with the pen than there is when drawing with my finger. This would probably also help the pen to feel more natural while writing on the slick surface because it would feel like it was your finger doing it. I think you need to pick up a Galaxy Note and try it for yourself.

20. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

Sorry, but you are wrong in your assumptions. I did test the Samsung Note for a good amount of time and good software beats the hardware interface.

21. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2566; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

There were no assumptions. If you look at the quote from the source itself: "The new stylus pen apparently uses the micro-current of the human body to allow the multi-touch screen to think it's a finger. This translates into the stylus pen having the same fluidity as you would get using your finger on a multitouch tablet yet with a finer tip. This could take out some of the lag that is traditionally associated with older generations of stylus pens." Also, if you understood how capacitive touch screens worked you would understand that they work by detecting anything that is conductive of electricity. That's why the stylus that works on say your old PDA will most likely not work on the Galaxy Note because it does not have a way to conduct a current. The stylus on the Note has a special material on the tip that allows it to conduct a current to the screen. That is why you are able to press that button on the stylus itself and it know to take a picture of the screen without the need for batteries on the stylus itself. So, by improving the way that the current is transmitted to the tip of the stylus (and by improving the material of the tip of the stylus as well) you will be improving the responsiveness as well as how it FEELS to write on the screen. I am not assuming anything, but putting forward basic facts about how the stylus interacts with a capacitive touchscreen. Even if you found that software could help improve the responsiveness of the stylus (which I'm not debating it doesn't help some), it does not change the fact that by updating the material used on the tip of the stylus to feel more natural (like the same feeling as putting your actual finger to the screen) will help tremendously. Not to mention that by the looks of it, they are also making the tip more fine point which is another plus.

Latest Stories

This copy is for your personal, non-commercial use only. You can order presentation-ready copies for distribution to your colleagues, clients or customers at or use the Reprints & Permissions tool that appears at the bottom of each web page. Visit for samples and additional information.
FCC OKs Cingular's purchase of AT&T Wireless