Samsung won't scrap Note series; new Note 8 to be released in the second half of 2017

A new rumor indicates that Samsung will not ditch its Note series, despite the big debacle that was the Galaxy Note 7. Yesterday, a South Korean official from the electronics sector stated that the company will release the Galaxy S8 and S8 Edge in April as intended, and is expected to introduce the Galaxy Note 8 in the second half of 2017:

A representative from a partner company of Samsung also shed some light on some of the new features that are expected on the Note 8:

Apart from the 4K display and improved VR capabilities, the new device will also feature new S pen stylus and Bixby - the new AI assistant, which Samsung will introduce with the Galaxy S8. 

Samsung Electronics is also planning to release the results of the Note 7 fire investigation by the end of January. Currently, there are rumors that the source of the problem might be related to the hardware design of the device, as opposed to earlier speculations that the explosions were caused by flawed batteries.

source: BusinessKorea



1. Mreveryphone

Posts: 1821; Member since: Apr 22, 2014

I'll be ready for both the S8 and Note 8... This S7 Edge has gotten way long in the tooth due to the obvious...

16. Klinton

Posts: 1409; Member since: Oct 24, 2016

In which sick mind came the dumb idea that Samsung would ditch the Note line, at first place? Wet dreams?? LOL

22. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

The Ifans who hate seeing other OEM's release a better phone than their own. We know Apple and their fanboy sheep, hate the Galaxy and Note because both phone are proof that goes against everything iPhone users have said. They claimed, no other OEm, could make money selling a single branded icon named phone like "iPhone". Yet the "S" has outsold the iPhone more than once. The "Note" ha sbeen a powerhouse. In fact the first 3 Note devices has higher sales than the first 3 iPhone. The first Note sold over 10M in its first year. The Note 2 more than doubled and the Note 3 sold 3 times as many as the first model. The 4 and 5 didn't do so well and the 7 got off to an "explosive" start and woudl have gone on to be the highest sellign not ever. But that is ok. if the Note 8 proves to be everything the S8 is, plus with 4K and a better Gear VR, it's gonna more than make up for the loses of the Note 7 which actually weren't even significant. Because 90% of Note 7 overs, went to another galaxy, mostly the S7 Edge, which means Samsung surely made all that money back and then some as they still recorded a better than expected profit. We as Android/Galaxy users, know who the real 'haters" and 'butthurts" are.

41. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2368; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

FULL DISCLAIMER: I bought the very first Note when it was released and was happy to show it off to all of my friends who eyeballed me from their 4 inch devices. I've bought a Note 3 and Note 4 as well. With that being said, While it is true that 86% of Note 7 owners said they would buy another Samsung device, I believe the number of individuals that bought another Samsung device was lower than 90%. According to AndroidCentral, about 15% bought a Pixel XL and 5% bought an iPhone. Also, it's hard to judge how many "independent" shoppers were buying the Note 7 before it was finally pulled from the market (by independent, I mean those individuals who are either new to Samsung devices or do not have a history of just buying a Samsung device. Surveys suggest at least 25% of Note 7 owners had owned 6 Samsung smartphones or more). Normally devices bought in the first month of release are being purchased by brand loyalists overwhelmingly (think of the crazy people who stand in line for days to get the latest iPhone). Secondly, it's very misleading to suggest how big of sales the Note series has by comparing it's sales to that of the first 3 iPhones. The Note series was introduced about 4 years after the first iPhone and the first 3 iPhones were offered exclusively through AT&T in the US and was only offered in a few world markets before finally being offered in 22 countries (with exclusivity of carriers depending on the market). It was also released during a time when Nokia and Blackberry controlled the marketplace by a wide margin (Blackberry stock reached a peak of around $200 a share during this point). By contrast, the Note was released after Samsung had commercial success with it's Galaxy S line (and the first Note was released after the very successful S2) and it was released in several countries from the start. Again, I am a huge Note series fan, but I just thought I would put some things into perspective.

42. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

I agree with what you said in context. the thing about the Note is, it was everything Appel claimed no one wanted or needed. Their claim that we didnt need large devices or that we don't need a stylus becaus God gave us fingers was all just marketing BS. If what Steve Jobs said was true, the Note would have been an instant failure. Yes the S was popularized before the Note. But the Note wasn't something we hadn't seen. It was simply we hadn't seen it like this. Even Samsung was surprised and all those blog sites who ripped the Note, were also surprised. Considering how niche the Note is compared to the iPhone and the S, is why I compare the sales. true the iPhone was avail in limited markets, but the original Note was available in less markets too vs later models. The first Note like the iPhone was also only exclusive to limited carriers. The original Note was a only available on ATT and T-Mobile as GSM only. Verizon didnt get a Note until the Note II, which is the first one I purchased because I was with VZW. So what you said is very similar to how the Note started. To me they are similar enough.

46. Klinton

Posts: 1409; Member since: Oct 24, 2016

' I bought the very first Note when it was released and was happy to show it off to all of my friends who eyeballed me from their 4 inch devices' The First Note is released in late October 2011, iPhone 4S - Released 2011, October So most of your friends were rocking 3.5'', like most of the US ppl. So if Apple was keeping up to the ''Great'' St.Jobs' spell, that 3.5'' is the magical size , what would we expect from Apple today? Well, you must remember how ''warm'' was welcomed the first Note by all the US media, right? Even I remember one guy from big mainstream media started his review by throwing the S-Pen behind his back, and starting bashing the size of the display. Samsung is not US company and deserved it, though.

49. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2368; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

You do realize that in October of 2011 Android hasd a 52.9% market share? That would mean that actually the majority of my friends would have owned Android devices which were sporting I believe 4-4.3 inch screens at that time. And I kept my phone for longer than a year, so even iPhone users were staring at me using a Note during that time considering the iPhone 5 with it's 4 inch screen was released in 2012. But thank you for trying to poke illogical holes in my story. I am sorry that I don't just use a phone for 3 months and then trash it for another one.

48. Klinton

Posts: 1409; Member since: Oct 24, 2016

'According to AndroidCentral, about 15% bought a Pixel XL and 5% bought an iPhone' LOL Stop quoting 'AndroidBlah' sites please. Or SamMobile

18. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Wait. So you are tired of the S7 Edge already which is only 9 months old? lol. With exception for the Note 7, there isn't a phone on the market that 100% matches the features of the S7 Edge or exceeds it in any way at all. I still have my Note 7 and gosh I hate to even get ride of it. But the glass is so broken, its unsafe to do so. No biggie T-mobile is giving me a loaner until the S8 comes and I will just swap and use my wife's Note 7, and I hope it lasts until the Note 8 comes.

25. tedkord

Posts: 17357; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

I'm not happy with the S7 Edge, either. My battery life is pretty bad, and the performance is sub par (whereas my Note 7 was nearly flawless). The Axon 7 I bought right after trading in the Note 7 was a better phone in most ways (not camera, but that's not a major user to me), and I'd still be using it if only Verizon had officially supported it. But, you know Verizon, it takes them three times as long as anyone else to put out updates, and that's with phones they sell and support.

28. Mreveryphone

Posts: 1821; Member since: Apr 22, 2014

My battery life is pretty good actually... The only real complaint I have is the fluidness of the touchwiz... Compared to the Note 7 Touchwiz on the S7 Edge is a little laggy. Touchwiz never lagged on my Note 7. With the beta 7.0 on the S7 Edge I can tell that they brought the optimizations from the Note 7 over to the S7 Edge...

35. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

I don't like the Galaxy S. I use too. I still have my S3 and S4. I never had the S5 personally, but my wife did, and I just bought an S5 off Amazon for $167 which is a steal of a price. Bit other than setting up an S5, I was dont with the S series after I purchased the Note 2 and I've been using the Note since, with my only switch was to the S6 Edge, then the Edge Plus which I loved mostly for its design. But I didnt want or like the Note 5. I ended up with the Note 5 anyways because of of habit I was reaching for my S-Pen and I got tired of that so I traded my S6 Edge+ for the Note 5. For me I will by every Note they release because first, I don,t like any other phone from Samsung, though I would take a Galaxy A8 or an S before using any other brand. I also like having the latest greatest even if I don't need it. I love my Note 7. I cant even imagine using anything else from now until then. I thought about the S7 Edge, but I already tried it. My wife doesn't mind it, but I do.

27. Mreveryphone

Posts: 1821; Member since: Apr 22, 2014

I move through phones as soon as they come out so for me to have had to go back to the S7 Edge makes this phone a dinosaur in my eyes.. I tried the V20 but couldn't get past the lack luster UI... S7 Edge still a good phone but I'm ready to move on... The 7.0 Beta Testing on it has made it a bit of a joy to hold on to until the next iterations come about...

38. tedkord

Posts: 17357; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

I've got Verizon, so I'll probably see Nougat next July...

43. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Nah, VZW will release Nougat right after the S8 is announced an on sale. Means less phone that will get it, leading to less upgrade issues. Plus most will want the newer model. Just look at the bright side. Even though Android doesnt get updates as fast as iOS, our updates have less problems, because the firmware gets to have a 2nd pair of eyes look at it before it reaches your phone. Also unliek other OEM's, VZW has a very strict upgrade policy. If they cant release an update without an issue, they simply won't. I rather it be late and good then rushed and problematic.

50. tedkord

Posts: 17357; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

I've been with Verizon for almost 15 years. I know what I'm talking about. AT&T just released an update for the Gear S2 that has Gear S3 features. My Verizon S2 still doesn't have the last update that AT&T got over six months ago.

32. Punchy506

Posts: 129; Member since: Jan 10, 2016

I paid off half of my s7e on black Friday to grab a moto z. Battery life was originally great but deteriorated very quickly, I was using a battery case that made my edge huge, ugly, and heavy just to get through a day. The s7e is a good phone but no way was it worth $33/mo, my Z is $10/mo and actually outperforms the s7e in a few areas. Front facing speaker, software, updates, Mods (mine came with a free speaker and wireless battery mod).

39. tedkord

Posts: 17357; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

I really hope Samsung includes FFS in the next Note iteration.It was the one major thing I felt my Note 7 was missing. After sending my Note back in, I got an Axon 7, and the speakers were awesome. Great phone, but it was always on roaming and lost signal because Verizon didn't officially support it - again, Verizon putting the customer last.

2. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2368; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

Hopefully the Note 8 will also have a feature that will allow users to change the resolution of the OS in order to get more battery life (similar to how Sony approached this).

4. zacsaturday

Posts: 262; Member since: May 09, 2014

Well, the note 7 did, and the galaxy S7 series had it in Nougat (beta)

6. sniper1087

Posts: 537; Member since: Dec 31, 2011

what are you talking about? the note 7 had a 2k display, what sony did was have a 4k display on video and when on the screen was a 1080p display, so is not the same if the screen never had that tech to begin with.

8. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

What zacsaturday was talking about is Samsung's Game Tuner, which lets users change the resolution of the Note7 as the user wishes. But yes, it isn't same as what Sony did in the Xperia Z5 Premium, as everything other than multimedia was rendered in 1080p with no option to change it.

11. John-Knotts

Posts: 380; Member since: Feb 28, 2015

He's talking about the ability to scale down the resolution

19. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

You mean, like how Galaxy S7/Note 7 devices have already?

37. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2368; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

While the Note 7 did have this type of function, I believe it was a part of the battery save feature. In other words, it wasn't something that was done automatically like in the case that Sony did where everywhere in the OS was run at 1080p and then when you opened multimedia it automatically scaled up the resolution to 4K. I think a more native function like Sony's would be best because otherwise you're having to constantly turn on and off the battery save function when you are viewing multimedia. And I don't think people really need to see 4K when they are interacting with the rest of the OS, so in my opinion I think it should just be automated.

40. tedkord

Posts: 17357; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

With the Note 7 you could pick the display resolution (2K, 1080p or 720p) at all times. Nothing to do with battery saver. Though, I found that decreasing the resolution had minimal effect on battery life. But every extra minute helps, I suppose.

47. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2368; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

Even still, like I said, I hope that Samsung creates a more automated resolution switching system similar to Sony. While, yes, you can change the resolution, you still have to go into the settings to switch it from 720 to 1080 to 2K. What I'm suggesting is that they follow more along the path of the normal OS running on, say, 1080p/2K and then when you open up certain games or applications like photos it would automatically switch to the highest resolution. We have to remember that phones are primarily used by non-tech people and they aren't going to be sitting there all day going "Oh hey let me go into settings and switch the resolution because I'm viewing HD content now". The more this is automated I think the better.

3. Plasticsh1t

Posts: 3106; Member since: Sep 01, 2014

"it will use 4K resolution displays in the Galaxy Note 8 to realize improved virtual reality (VR) functions". RIP battery.

5. zacsaturday

Posts: 262; Member since: May 09, 2014

But it's an older screen, hopefully it will run in FHD most of the time

7. maple_mak

Posts: 953; Member since: Dec 18, 2013

There's a option you can adjust resolution at settings.

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